Re: [Flashcoders] Binary Sockets
dear Glen, there are some discussion about UPD sockets in FP10 in nui group forum: http://nuigroup.com/forums/viewthread/1969/ UPD sockes woud be very important to the community integrating Flash with other softwares, because OSC protocol is based on UDP. The current alternative (using flosc to convert OSC messages to XML, and using a XML Socket in flash) is slow, and a binary socked for communication with PureData, TouchLib, EyesWeb, MaxMsp and other softwares would improve speed a lot. best, andrei On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Glen Pike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, (sorry if this is a repeat, I thought I sent the last mail from the wrong account). I have been doing some work with Binary Sockets and running into a few problems with speed. I don't think it's a Flash problem, but trying to convince the server programmer is rather difficult... Are there any applications that I can run as pseudo servers to spew out lots of data which I can use to benchmark / test my implementation? The other question regards UDP - from experiments I am guessing that FP9 does not support UDP sockets. Someone mentioned that FP10 may do, but I can't find much info on this. Does anyone have any clues? Thanks Glen -- Glen Pike 01326 218440 www.glenpike.co.uk http://www.glenpike.co.uk ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Binary Sockets
excuse me, the correct thread is this one: http://nuigroup.com/forums/viewthread/2137/ and check this link, too: http://justin.everett-church.com/index.php/2008/05/16/rtmfp-in-flash-player-10-beta/ andrei On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Andrei Thomaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: dear Glen, there are some discussion about UPD sockets in FP10 in nui group forum: http://nuigroup.com/forums/viewthread/1969/ UPD sockes woud be very important to the community integrating Flash with other softwares, because OSC protocol is based on UDP. The current alternative (using flosc to convert OSC messages to XML, and using a XML Socket in flash) is slow, and a binary socked for communication with PureData, TouchLib, EyesWeb, MaxMsp and other softwares would improve speed a lot. best, andrei On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Glen Pike [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, (sorry if this is a repeat, I thought I sent the last mail from the wrong account). I have been doing some work with Binary Sockets and running into a few problems with speed. I don't think it's a Flash problem, but trying to convince the server programmer is rather difficult... Are there any applications that I can run as pseudo servers to spew out lots of data which I can use to benchmark / test my implementation? The other question regards UDP - from experiments I am guessing that FP9 does not support UDP sockets. Someone mentioned that FP10 may do, but I can't find much info on this. Does anyone have any clues? Thanks Glen -- Glen Pike 01326 218440 www.glenpike.co.uk http://www.glenpike.co.uk ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Binary Sockets
Hi, Thanks for the response - I am not 100%, but I have been reading around on this and it seems that Adobe have put the kybosh on people using UDP sockets if you read Tinic's response in the FP10 forums: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?forumid=72catid=675threadid=1373276highlight_key=ykeyword1=udp The UDP protocol is not a supported user accessible feature in Flash Player 10. Sounds like it's proprietary bx as usual then. That's a pity, it would have been nice to connect to our own UDP server in FP, but looks like we will have to be writing UDP - TCP proxies... Now playing with socket servers in PHP to benchmark stuff - writing, but not reading very well (seems that you can't open close the socket on each loop, but have to keep it open otherwise flash throws a wobbly). Thanks Glen Andrei Thomaz wrote: excuse me, the correct thread is this one: http://nuigroup.com/forums/viewthread/2137/ and check this link, too: http://justin.everett-church.com/index.php/2008/05/16/rtmfp-in-flash-player-10-beta/ andrei On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Andrei Thomaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: dear Glen, there are some discussion about UPD sockets in FP10 in nui group forum: http://nuigroup.com/forums/viewthread/1969/ UPD sockes woud be very important to the community integrating Flash with other softwares, because OSC protocol is based on UDP. The current alternative (using flosc to convert OSC messages to XML, and using a XML Socket in flash) is slow, and a binary socked for communication with PureData, TouchLib, EyesWeb, MaxMsp and other softwares would improve speed a lot. best, andrei On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Glen Pike [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, (sorry if this is a repeat, I thought I sent the last mail from the wrong account). I have been doing some work with Binary Sockets and running into a few problems with speed. I don't think it's a Flash problem, but trying to convince the server programmer is rather difficult... Are there any applications that I can run as pseudo servers to spew out lots of data which I can use to benchmark / test my implementation? The other question regards UDP - from experiments I am guessing that FP9 does not support UDP sockets. Someone mentioned that FP10 may do, but I can't find much info on this. Does anyone have any clues? Thanks Glen -- Glen Pike 01326 218440 www.glenpike.co.uk http://www.glenpike.co.uk ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Glen Pike 01326 218440 www.glenpike.co.uk http://www.glenpike.co.uk ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Binary Sockets
please, if you create or find a solution to receiving UDP messages in flash, alternative to flosc / XML socket, post it in NUI group forum. The use of a XML socket is one of the bottlenecks in the integration between flash and TouchLib and the other softwares I quoted. best, andrei On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Glen Pike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Thanks for the response - I am not 100%, but I have been reading around on this and it seems that Adobe have put the kybosh on people using UDP sockets if you read Tinic's response in the FP10 forums: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?forumid=72catid=675threadid=1373276highlight_key=ykeyword1=udp The UDP protocol is not a supported user accessible feature in Flash Player 10. Sounds like it's proprietary bx as usual then. That's a pity, it would have been nice to connect to our own UDP server in FP, but looks like we will have to be writing UDP - TCP proxies... Now playing with socket servers in PHP to benchmark stuff - writing, but not reading very well (seems that you can't open close the socket on each loop, but have to keep it open otherwise flash throws a wobbly). Thanks Glen Andrei Thomaz wrote: excuse me, the correct thread is this one: http://nuigroup.com/forums/viewthread/2137/ and check this link, too: http://justin.everett-church.com/index.php/2008/05/16/rtmfp-in-flash-player-10-beta/ andrei On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Andrei Thomaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dear Glen, there are some discussion about UPD sockets in FP10 in nui group forum: http://nuigroup.com/forums/viewthread/1969/ UPD sockes woud be very important to the community integrating Flash with other softwares, because OSC protocol is based on UDP. The current alternative (using flosc to convert OSC messages to XML, and using a XML Socket in flash) is slow, and a binary socked for communication with PureData, TouchLib, EyesWeb, MaxMsp and other softwares would improve speed a lot. best, andrei On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Glen Pike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, (sorry if this is a repeat, I thought I sent the last mail from the wrong account). I have been doing some work with Binary Sockets and running into a few problems with speed. I don't think it's a Flash problem, but trying to convince the server programmer is rather difficult... Are there any applications that I can run as pseudo servers to spew out lots of data which I can use to benchmark / test my implementation? The other question regards UDP - from experiments I am guessing that FP9 does not support UDP sockets. Someone mentioned that FP10 may do, but I can't find much info on this. Does anyone have any clues? Thanks Glen -- Glen Pike 01326 218440 www.glenpike.co.uk http://www.glenpike.co.uk ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Glen Pike 01326 218440 www.glenpike.co.uk http://www.glenpike.co.uk ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Binary Sockets
Hi, Thanks for that, I will keep an eye on the Flosc / Nui stuff because it is in my arena, but I am not holding my breath for Flash UDP at the moment... If I find some nice fast ways in Flash, I will see if I can help out the Nui group - depends on my boss though :( Glen Andrei Thomaz wrote: please, if you create or find a solution to receiving UDP messages in flash, alternative to flosc / XML socket, post it in NUI group forum. The use of a XML socket is one of the bottlenecks in the integration between flash and TouchLib and the other softwares I quoted. best, andrei On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Glen Pike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Thanks for the response - I am not 100%, but I have been reading around on this and it seems that Adobe have put the kybosh on people using UDP sockets if you read Tinic's response in the FP10 forums: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?forumid=72catid=675threadid=1373276highlight_key=ykeyword1=udp The UDP protocol is not a supported user accessible feature in Flash Player 10. Sounds like it's proprietary bx as usual then. That's a pity, it would have been nice to connect to our own UDP server in FP, but looks like we will have to be writing UDP - TCP proxies... Now playing with socket servers in PHP to benchmark stuff - writing, but not reading very well (seems that you can't open close the socket on each loop, but have to keep it open otherwise flash throws a wobbly). Thanks Glen Andrei Thomaz wrote: excuse me, the correct thread is this one: http://nuigroup.com/forums/viewthread/2137/ and check this link, too: http://justin.everett-church.com/index.php/2008/05/16/rtmfp-in-flash-player-10-beta/ andrei On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Andrei Thomaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dear Glen, there are some discussion about UPD sockets in FP10 in nui group forum: http://nuigroup.com/forums/viewthread/1969/ UPD sockes woud be very important to the community integrating Flash with other softwares, because OSC protocol is based on UDP. The current alternative (using flosc to convert OSC messages to XML, and using a XML Socket in flash) is slow, and a binary socked for communication with PureData, TouchLib, EyesWeb, MaxMsp and other softwares would improve speed a lot. best, andrei On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Glen Pike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, (sorry if this is a repeat, I thought I sent the last mail from the wrong account). I have been doing some work with Binary Sockets and running into a few problems with speed. I don't think it's a Flash problem, but trying to convince the server programmer is rather difficult... Are there any applications that I can run as pseudo servers to spew out lots of data which I can use to benchmark / test my implementation? The other question regards UDP - from experiments I am guessing that FP9 does not support UDP sockets. Someone mentioned that FP10 may do, but I can't find much info on this. Does anyone have any clues? Thanks Glen -- Glen Pike 01326 218440 www.glenpike.co.uk http://www.glenpike.co.uk ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Glen Pike 01326 218440 www.glenpike.co.uk http://www.glenpike.co.uk ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Glen Pike 01326 218440 www.glenpike.co.uk http://www.glenpike.co.uk ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
