Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-15 Thread Geoff Stearns
that's not really accurate... you can have the flash inserted as the page loads and not have to activate it. the requirement is that it's written by an external script, and not invoked natively by the browser (and plain html). it doesn't matter if it's done onload or inline as the page is

Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-15 Thread 8ball Developer
Hi Karina, (probably already answered question) Why does the javascript need to be external? Is there any solution to this problem that uses an internal javascript. Thanks in Advance. On 6/14/06, Karina Steffens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alec, You could try ObjectSwap on my blog -

Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-15 Thread Geoff Stearns
you have to use an external script because of the way the patent was worded.. by using an external script, you are somehow not infringing on it, so that's how the patch works. On Jun 15, 2006, at 11:09 AM, 8ball Developer wrote: Hi Karina, (probably already answered question) Why does

Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-15 Thread Geoff Stearns
also i might as well take this opportunity to point everyone to SWFObject: http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/ it fixes all the eolas problems you are having, it's really easy to use, supports express install, does plugin detection and can provide alternate content, opens your wine

Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-15 Thread Geoff Stearns
list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug that's not really accurate... you can have the flash inserted as the page loads and not have to activate it. the requirement is that it's written by an external script, and not invoked natively by the browser (and plain html

RE: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-15 Thread Karina Steffens
people are completely out of line. Karina -Original Message- From: Geoff Stearns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 June 2006 16:19 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug also i might as well take this opportunity to point

RE: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-15 Thread Tom Lee
it since I can't uninstall the Hotfixes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Stearns Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 12:19 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug there's a number of known

Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-15 Thread Kevin Newman
Tom Lee wrote: If you're referring to the issue I'm reporting, I'm afraid your solution is not immune either. Two out of 3 of my PCs will show the click to activate message if you have cleared your cache and then visited your example pages without restarting your browser first. If that's

RE: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-15 Thread Tom Lee
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Newman Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 2:35 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug Tom Lee wrote: If you're referring to the issue I'm reporting, I'm afraid your

RE: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-14 Thread Karina Steffens
Hi Alec, You could try ObjectSwap on my blog - http://www.neo-archaic.net/blog/2006/04/25/objectswap.htm Karina -Original Message- From: Alec Matusis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2006 19:49 To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace

Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-14 Thread Kevin Newman
to work with you off-list if you prefer. -tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Newman Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 3:49 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug Is the problem

RE: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-14 Thread Tom Lee
it relates to Flash in this context. Thoughts? -tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Newman Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 1:03 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug Hello, I

Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-14 Thread ryanm
Perhaps there is a magic sweet spot between the execution of deferred scripts and window.onload when elements can be inserted into the document without click to activate. There's no magic there, the embedded object cannot exist prior to the onload event firing or it will require

Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-14 Thread Kevin Newman
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ryanm Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:20 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug Perhaps there is a magic sweet spot between the execution of deferred scripts and window.onload when elements can

RE: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-14 Thread Tom Lee
] On Behalf Of Kevin Newman Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:42 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug Maybe the workaround is to remove the old node, before overwriting it? I am currently just setting oldObjectNode.outerHTML

RE: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-14 Thread Tom Lee
/MicrosoftsEolasActiveXPatchForIESometimesBreak sJavaScriptWorkaround.aspx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Lee Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:21 PM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug Some good thoughts, Kevin

RE: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-13 Thread Tom Lee
Of Michael Stuhr Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 2:55 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug Alec Matusis schrieb: Can anyone explain this behavior? Is this an IE bug? why don't you use another browser like FF test your cases, and tell us

RE: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-13 Thread Ville Walveranta
Why do you have to embed Flash applets into pages without help of, say, SWFObject? Ville -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alec Matusis Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 13:49 To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and

Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-13 Thread Aaron Buchanan
Fresh off the Flash coders content degrading thread, eh? On 6/13/06 11:54 AM, Michael Stuhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alec Matusis schrieb: Can anyone explain this behavior? Is this an IE bug? why don't you use another browser like FF test your cases, and tell us ? this list is all about

Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-13 Thread Michael Stuhr
Aaron Buchanan schrieb: Fresh off the Flash coders content degrading thread, eh? didn't even read it. but i hate those vampires. micha ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive:

Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-13 Thread Kevin Newman
Is the problem that you can't run Javascript at all, or that you need to put the embed code in html instead of javascript? You could use this patent fix: http://www.unfocus.com/projects/patentmagic/ It still relies on scripting being enabled (so you'd still have this problem for anyone that

Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-13 Thread Michael Stuhr
Aaron Buchanan schrieb: Now that I think about it, lot's of people will a similar issue with any myspace applets. Since JS is restricted. Would be interested in hearing the resolution. Did you try in firefox? a why not use UFO or similar and provide an additional noscript / with the somewhat

Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Nowak
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/13/2006 4:40:17 PM why not use UFO or similar [...] Since JS is restricted. [...] and provide an additional noscript / with the somewhat deprecated object and embed ? Originally: I have to embed flash applets into web pages directly, without Javascript Eolas