RE: [flexbackup-help] blksize parameters

2005-06-09 Thread Erwan.CHEVALIER
Hi list and niall 

Special thanks for you Niall again.

Here is one of my last question about flex and then it will be ok. 
I would like to backup only certains files but not all the directory
Is it possible ??
I think not but maybe.
Thanks for reply 

-Message d'origine-
De : Niall Brosnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Envoyé : mercredi 8 juin 2005 10:51
À : CHEVALIER, Erwan -Syntegra FR
Cc : flexbackup-help@lists.sourceforge.net
Objet : RE: [flexbackup-help] blksize parameters

CHEVALIER, Erwan wrote:
> It's ok.
> Success.
> Yes, Thanks for all Niall
> So now parameters working.
> In order to all understand, what is the difference between nst0 and st0.
> Someone had explain to me:
> St0: When you backup the device rewind then after each record.
> Not on st0.
> If it's true how it can block a test??
> This is the last question for you Master .
> Bye and thanks again. 

Hi Erwan,
great!

The non-rewinding device (nst0) allows multiple archives on one tape.
During the test, flexbackup writes several files to tape.
Then it compares them back against where they should be on tape:
e.g. It counts 2 records forward and then compares the third file.

The difference comes when you write multiple files:

NST0 += FILE 1 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+
NST0 += FILE 1 -= | = FILE 2 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+
NST0 += FILE 1 -= | = FILE 2 -= | = FILE 3 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ NST0 +=
FILE 1 -= | = FILE 2 -= | = FILE 3 -= | = FILE 4 -=-=-=-=+

ST0  += FILE 1  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+
ST0  += FILE 2  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+
ST0  += FILE 3  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+
ST0  += FILE 4  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+

Now when you compare FILE 1 on disk to FILE 1 on tape, it is succesful for
/dev/nst0, but fails for /dev/st0 as FILE 1 != FILE 4

flexbackup should really trap that particular error, and suggest that you use
the non-rewinding device.
It is however, clearly marked in the config.

Good luck with your restore,
Niall

 
> -Message d'origine-
> De : Niall Brosnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : mardi 7 
> juin 2005 19:28 À : CHEVALIER, Erwan -Syntegra FR Cc : 
> flexbackup-help@lists.sourceforge.net
> Objet : RE: [flexbackup-help] blksize parameters
> 
> Hi Erwan,
> thanks for your perseverance.
> 
> Your config file is still set to
> $device = '/dev/st0'  ; though,
> 
> It really HAS to be the non rewinding device, /dev/nst0
> 
> On my system, this error gives the same error that you are seeing.
> 
> Niall
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RE: [flexbackup-help] blksize parameters

2005-06-08 Thread Niall Brosnan
CHEVALIER, Erwan wrote:
> It's ok.
> Success.
> Yes, Thanks for all Niall
> So now parameters working.
> In order to all understand, what is the difference between nst0 and st0.
> Someone had explain to me:
> St0: When you backup the device rewind then after each record.
> Not on st0.
> If it's true how it can block a test??
> This is the last question for you Master .
> Bye and thanks again. 

Hi Erwan,
great!

The non-rewinding device (nst0) allows multiple archives on one tape.
During the test, flexbackup writes several files to tape.
Then it compares them back against where they should be on tape:
e.g. It counts 2 records forward and then compares the third file.

The difference comes when you write multiple files:

NST0 += FILE 1 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+
NST0 += FILE 1 -= | = FILE 2 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+
NST0 += FILE 1 -= | = FILE 2 -= | = FILE 3 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+
NST0 += FILE 1 -= | = FILE 2 -= | = FILE 3 -= | = FILE 4 -=-=-=-=+

ST0  += FILE 1  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+
ST0  += FILE 2  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+
ST0  += FILE 3  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+
ST0  += FILE 4  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+

Now when you compare FILE 1 on disk to FILE 1 on tape,
it is succesful for /dev/nst0, but fails for /dev/st0 
as FILE 1 != FILE 4

flexbackup should really trap that particular error,
and suggest that you use the non-rewinding device.
It is however, clearly marked in the config.

Good luck with your restore,
Niall

 
> -Message d'origine-
> De : Niall Brosnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Envoyé : mardi 7 juin 2005 19:28
> À : CHEVALIER, Erwan -Syntegra FR
> Cc : flexbackup-help@lists.sourceforge.net
> Objet : RE: [flexbackup-help] blksize parameters
> 
> Hi Erwan,
> thanks for your perseverance.
> 
> Your config file is still set to
> $device = '/dev/st0'  ; though,
> 
> It really HAS to be the non rewinding device, /dev/nst0
> 
> On my system, this error gives the same error that you are seeing.
> 
> Niall
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RE: [flexbackup-help] blksize parameters

2005-06-08 Thread Erwan.CHEVALIER
One of the last question.

 | buffer -m 10m -p 75 -s 10k -t -u 100 -i "/dev/nst0" | afio -t -z -D \
|   /usr/bin/flexbackup -P gzip -Q -d -Q -q -Z -v   -b 10k -
|
afio: "-" [offset 6]: Fatal error:
afio: "-": Unrecognizable archive
Kilobytes Out 10
|
At block 1.

Here is the stdout of the flexbackup -list of the only one archive I've made.
My archive is ok 

Thanks for all

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Envoyé : mardi 7 juin 2005 19:30
À : CHEVALIER, Erwan -Syntegra FR
Objet : RE: [flexbackup-help] blksize parameters 

On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] flextest]# flexbackup -test-tape-drive 
> -compress=false -device=st0

No, -device=/dev/nst0
> $device = '/dev/nst0';

This is your problem.

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RE: [flexbackup-help] blksize parameters

2005-06-07 Thread Niall Brosnan
Hi Erwan,
thanks for your perseverance.

Your config file is still set to
$device = '/dev/st0'  ; though,

It really HAS to be the non rewinding device, /dev/nst0

On my system, this error gives the same error that you are seeing.

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RE: [flexbackup-help] blksize parameters (fwd)

2005-06-07 Thread Erwan.CHEVALIER
Hi list and niall 

Can you run a simple tar to the drive?

mt -f /dev/st0  status

- I've already answered 

mt -f /dev/st0  rewind

Nothing too

[EMAIL PROTECTED] flextest]# tar cf /dev/nst0 /etc
tar: Retrait de l'en-tête `/' des noms des membres

mt -f /dev/st0  rewind
Take time but ok

tar tf /dev/nst0
Ok it show me all the tar that I've done.



Try manually setting the blocksize to the same as what you're using in the
script.

"mt -f /dev/st0 setblk 1024"
and use
$mt_blksize = "1024";

I've done it and do a 
Flexbackup-test-tape-drive but it's not better.

Thanks for all

Niall






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RE: [flexbackup-help] blksize parameters

2005-06-07 Thread Erwan.CHEVALIER





RE 
Niall
After erasing, 
i'll give you all infos  about each questions you asked to 
me.
What output do you get from: " mt status "?
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] local]# mt -f /dev/st0 
status
SCSI 2 tape drive:File number=0, block 
number=0, partition=0.Tape block size 4096 bytes. Density code 0x47(
 TR-5).Soft error count since last status=0General status bits on(
 4101): BOT ONLINE IM_REP_EN
Are you using version 1.2.1 of flexbackup?
Yes
 
OK - take compression and the tape out of your next 
test.
Make a directory /tmp/FlexTest,
 
set these options and run flexbackup 
again.
$compress = 'false';
$device = '/tmp/FlexTest/';
Now " flexbackup -test-tape-drive " will say, 'No use 
trying tape drive tests on directories!', but it will tell you if the rest of 
your syntax is correct.
Say nothing so 
syntax ok
If you get no errors, run it again withoutc
 ompression but with the tape:
$compress = 'false';
$device = '/dev/nst0';
[EMAIL PROTECTED] flextest]# flexbackup 
-test-tape-drive -compress=false 
-device=st0
flexbackup version 1.2.1 (http://flexbackup.sourceforge.net)/etc/flexbackup.conf 
syntax OK
|| 
Checking 'buffer' on this machine... Ok| Checking /bin/sh on this machine... 
bash2||T
 esting will *erase* the tape currently in the drive!| Hit CTRL-C to abort 
within 10 
seconds...|| 
If for some reason this program does not exit within a few minutes,| Hit 
CTRL-C, and try adjusting $blksize, $pad_blocks, or 
$mt_blksize.|| 
Rewinding & erasing tape...| Creating index key 
200506071610|At 
block 0.
Writing test file #1
Kilobytes Out 160
At block 0.
Writing test file #2Kilobytes Out 
10At block 0.Writing test file #3Kilobytes Out 160At block0
 .
Rewinding...Skipping index label...At 
block 0.
Reading test file #1Kilobytes Out 
160At block 0.Reading test file #2Kilobytes Out 160At block0
 .Reading test file #3Kilobytes Out 160At block 
0.
Comparing...Les fichiers 
/etc/flexbackup.conf et /tmp/test2.3734 sont différents.
FAILURE! Problem with tape driver orp
 arameters.  Please see the FAQor try changing the $blksize, 
$pad_blocks, or $mt_blksize settings.
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] flextest]# flexbackup 
-test-tape-drive -compress=false -device=nst0
flexbackup version 
1.2.1/etc/flexbackup.conf syntax OK
Errors: $device must be set to a 
directory, a local device, or a remote device
 
Please answer the list rather than me personally, so 
that others may benefit and offer further advice.
Good luck,
Niall
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> Hi Niall.
> Yes, I've already tried all this 
feature.
> For the compression to I've already tried bzip, 
gzip, hardware and so on.
> My impression is the next one.
> After each
> flexbackup-test-tape-drive
> It send me
> 
> Comparing...
> directory /etc/flexbackup.conf and 
/tmp/test2.10734 are différents
> 
> FAILURE! Problem with tape driver or parameters. 
Please see the FAQ 
> or try changing the $blksize, $pad_blocks, or 
$mt_blksize settings.
> 
> SO I've tried to see what is talking about this 
/tmp/test.
> I modified the script and I copy them into a 
directory and when i 
> open it it was just the 
/usr/bin/flexbackup.
> SO no idea but I continue.
> Thanks a lot for your help
> 
> -Message d'origine-
> De : Niall Brosnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé : lundi 6 
> juin 2005 11:46 À : CHEVALIER, Erwan -Syntegra 
FR Objet : Re: 
> [flexbackup-help] blksize parameters 
(fwd)
> 
> Hi Erwan,
> here is the message as sent to the list on 
Thursday.
> Do you usually receive list mail?
> 
> Hope it helps,
> Niall
> 
> -- Forwarded message 
--
> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:29:06 +0100 
(IST)
> From: Niall Brosnan 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
flexbackup-help@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [flexbackup-help] blksizep
 arameters
> 
> Dear Erwan,
> 
> > From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Dear Flexbackup users,
> > I've tried all blksize between 0 and 512 
which my max, and none of 
> > this values is correct, so anyone can 
explain to me, where i'm wrong.
> > Here is my Flexbackup.conf
> 
> I assume you are using linux, and you should 
first change this setting:
> > $device = '/dev/st0';
> to
> $device = '/dev/nst0';
> This is very important!
> 
> > Dell Powervault 100T DAT 72 with magnetic 
tape of 36-72 GB.
> If your tape drive has compression turned on, 
you should not use 
> software compression.
> I would recommend us

Re: [flexbackup-help] blksize parameters

2005-06-07 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Niall Brosnan:
> 
> Could you include your configuration again?
> " grep -v -e ^\# -v -e ^$ /etc/flexbackup.conf  "
> will give us just your active configuration.

grep -v '^#|^$' /etc/flexbackup.conf


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RE: [flexbackup-help] blksize parameters (fwd)

2005-06-07 Thread Niall Brosnan
Hi Erwan,
I know you've probably tried most of this.
Checking back on your mail of 5 May,
I see:
/dev/nst0: Input/output error

There is nothing flexbackup can do until that is sorted.
What blocksize does mt status report on a clean boot?
Can you run a simple tar to the drive?

mt -f /dev/st0  status
mt -f /dev/st0  rewind
tar cf /dev/nst0 /etc
mt -f /dev/st0  rewind
tar tf /dev/nst0


Try manually setting the blocksize to the same as what
you're using in the script.

"mt -f /dev/st0 setblk 1024"
and use
$mt_blksize = "1024";

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RE: [flexbackup-help] blksize parameters

2005-06-07 Thread Niall Brosnan
Hi Erwan,
Could you include your configuration again?
" grep -v -e ^\# -v -e ^$ /etc/flexbackup.conf  "
will give us just your active configuration.

What output do you get from: " mt status " ?

Are you using version 1.2.1 of flexbackup?

OK - take compression and the tape out of your next test.
Make a directory /tmp/FlexTest,
set these options and run flexbackup again.

$compress = 'false';
$device = '/tmp/FlexTest/';

Now "  flexbackup -test-tape-drive " will say,
'No use trying tape drive tests on directories!',
but it will tell you if the rest of your syntax is correct.

If you get no errors, run it again without compression but with the tape:
$compress = 'false';
$device = '/dev/nst0';

Please answer the list rather than me personally,
so that others may benefit and offer further advice.

Good luck,
Niall

On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Niall.
> Yes, I've already tried all this feature.
>  For the compression to I've already tried bzip, gzip, hardware and so on.
> My impression is the next one.
> After each 
> flexbackup-test-tape-drive
> It send me
> 
> Comparing...
> directory /etc/flexbackup.conf and /tmp/test2.10734 are différents
> 
> FAILURE! Problem with tape driver or parameters.  Please see the FAQ
> or try changing the $blksize, $pad_blocks, or $mt_blksize settings.
> 
> SO I've tried to see what is talking about this /tmp/test.
> I modified the script and  I copy them into a directory
>  and when i open it it was just the /usr/bin/flexbackup.
> SO no idea but I continue.
> Thanks a lot for your help
> 
> -Message d'origine-----
> De : Niall Brosnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Envoyé : lundi 6 juin 2005 11:46
> À : CHEVALIER, Erwan -Syntegra FR
> Objet : Re: [flexbackup-help] blksize parameters (fwd)
> 
> Hi Erwan,
> here is the message as sent to the list on Thursday.
> Do you usually receive list mail?
> 
> Hope it helps,
> Niall
> 
> ------ Forwarded message --
> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:29:06 +0100 (IST)
> From: Niall Brosnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: flexbackup-help@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [flexbackup-help] blksize parameters
> 
> Dear Erwan,
> 
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Dear Flexbackup users,
> > I've tried all blksize between 0 and 512 which my max, and none of 
> > this values is correct, so anyone can explain to me, where i'm wrong.
> > Here is my Flexbackup.conf
> 
> I assume you are using linux, and you should first change this setting:
> > $device = '/dev/st0';
> to
>  $device = '/dev/nst0';
> This is very important!
> 
> > Dell Powervault 100T DAT 72 with magnetic tape of 36-72 GB.
> If your tape drive has compression turned on, you should not use software
> compression.
> I would recommend using software compression where possible as you will get
> better predictions on size, and you will get better portability of your
> backups.
> It's far easier to recompile bzip2 for a new platform than it is to reverse
> engineer a compression algorithm on a chip when your Dell tape drive dies.
> 
> What errors are you seeing in /var/log/flexbackup ?
> Why do you feel that the blksize is your problem?
> 
> Niall
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [flexbackup-help] blksize parameters (fwd)

2005-06-07 Thread Erwan.CHEVALIER
Hi Niall.
Yes, I've already tried all this feature.
 For the compression to I've already tried bzip, gzip, hardware and so on.
My impression is the next one.
After each 
flexbackup-test-tape-drive
It send me

Comparing...
directory /etc/flexbackup.conf and /tmp/test2.10734 are différents

FAILURE! Problem with tape driver or parameters.  Please see the FAQ
or try changing the $blksize, $pad_blocks, or $mt_blksize settings.

SO I've tried to see what is talking about this /tmp/test.
I modified the script and  I copy them into a directory
 and when i open it it was just the /usr/bin/flexbackup.
SO no idea but I continue.
Thanks a lot for your help

-Message d'origine-
De : Niall Brosnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Envoyé : lundi 6 juin 2005 11:46
À : CHEVALIER, Erwan -Syntegra FR
Objet : Re: [flexbackup-help] blksize parameters (fwd)

Hi Erwan,
here is the message as sent to the list on Thursday.
Do you usually receive list mail?

Hope it helps,
Niall

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:29:06 +0100 (IST)
From: Niall Brosnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: flexbackup-help@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [flexbackup-help] blksize parameters

Dear Erwan,

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dear Flexbackup users,
> I've tried all blksize between 0 and 512 which my max, and none of 
> this values is correct, so anyone can explain to me, where i'm wrong.
> Here is my Flexbackup.conf

I assume you are using linux, and you should first change this setting:
> $device = '/dev/st0';
to
 $device = '/dev/nst0';
This is very important!

> Dell Powervault 100T DAT 72 with magnetic tape of 36-72 GB.
If your tape drive has compression turned on, you should not use software
compression.
I would recommend using software compression where possible as you will get
better predictions on size, and you will get better portability of your
backups.
It's far easier to recompile bzip2 for a new platform than it is to reverse
engineer a compression algorithm on a chip when your Dell tape drive dies.

What errors are you seeing in /var/log/flexbackup ?
Why do you feel that the blksize is your problem?

Niall







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