Re: [flexcoders] Re: Out of curiosity, what would Adobe lose if Flash were open sourced?

2010-05-04 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 04 May 2010 00:48:25 you wrote: With the swf format being documented, and available, in theory there could be plenty of different implementation of the Flash Player. And there are, such as Gash. I believe the open source community has issue with the license the spec. is released

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Out of curiosity, what would Adobe lose if Flash were open sourced?

2010-05-04 Thread Oleg Sivokon
Tom, Gash is not it's name... It's called GNash (GNU + Flash), gash is something else... ;)

[flexcoders] thunderbolt

2010-05-04 Thread cholid cholid
Hi all anyone use thunderbolt for debuging? can tell me detail how to use it? thanks

Re: [flexcoders] RE: Re: Thoughts on Flash by Steve Jobs

2010-05-04 Thread Guy Morton
I've done the html, css, js thing too - started developing for the web in 1994, so I've been around the block once or twice too. If you know everything about web technologies, past, present and future perhaps you should be heading up Apple. :-) And before you issue silly challenges to people

[flexcoders] Mediators, Presentation Models and Flex 4 Components

2010-05-04 Thread Haykel BEN JEMIA
Hi, with the new Flex 4 components architecture which actually separates logic from design with the Skin paradigm, what is the best way to implement Mediators/Presentation Models that best uses the capabilities of this architecture (partAdded, partRemoved, getCurrentSkinState etc.). For now I'm

Re: [flexcoders] thunderbolt

2010-05-04 Thread claudiu ursica
I have used it a while ago, basically it is the same as logger, but you need to define a different debug target. Google a little bit I was able to make it run in under an hour, don't remember by heart what needs to be done but is really trivial. C From:

[flexcoders] Security vulnerabilities of making RPC from HTTP-client to HTTPS-background

2010-05-04 Thread Jukka
Hi, we have a Flex-application that runs in HTTP-domain and makes RPC-calls to Tomcat based on HTTPS. That means our Flex-client is not secured by SSL but Java services are. We thought that this would be enough because the Flex client itself does not contain any sensitive data (and, by our

Re: [flexcoders] RE: Re: Thoughts on Flash by Steve Jobs

2010-05-04 Thread Guy Morton
On 04/05/2010, at 9:39 AM, Oleg Sivokon wrote: That's again a newspaper trick, it may from the first sight seem like you are making a point, however... You say that HTML5 is a good perspective, I say it's a step back, you may not agree, but your personal belief doesn't make it a fact, it

[flexcoders] Re: Thoughts on Flash by Steve Jobs

2010-05-04 Thread Jeffry Houser
This is actually wrong. the SWF format is open and documented for all to use ( http://www.adobe.com/devnet/swf/ ). Are you aware of any restrictions placed upon use of the specification that do not make it open? Adobe's Flash Player, on the other hand, is very proprietary. --- In

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Thoughts on Flash by Steve Jobs

2010-05-04 Thread Gregor Kiddie
And this is the point the moderators should step in to shut this thread down. We've brought ourselves to the no it isn't, yes it is arguing point guys. Can we please let this thread die with a little dignity, and we can all jump in on the next one, unless someone wants to make a blog post

[flexcoders] Re: Calling mxmlc/fcsh from PHP script

2010-05-04 Thread kanu kukreja
Can somebody please reply on this, i got few replies yesterday, but not relevant with the question i asked. Wanted to run compiler mxmlc/fcsh using php to generate swf file. Thanks On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:00 PM, kanu kukreja kanukukr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, My question is whether or not

Re: [flexcoders] Mediators, Presentation Models and Flex 4 Components

2010-05-04 Thread gabriel montagné
Hi, On 04/05/2010, Haykel BEN JEMIA hayke...@gmail.com wrote: with the new Flex 4 components architecture which actually separates logic from design with the Skin paradigm, what is the best way to implement Mediators/Presentation Models that best uses the capabilities of this architecture

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Calling mxmlc/fcsh from PHP script

2010-05-04 Thread Gregor Kiddie
There was part of FDS (before it became LCDS) that had a web-compiler. You called for the swf and if it hadn't been generated, it compiled it before delivering it, later requests just used the compiled one). I don't know if it made its way into LCDS, but it's worth a look! Gk.

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Calling mxmlc/fcsh from PHP script

2010-05-04 Thread kanu kukreja
Don't want to go in to FDS or LCDS, need to generate swf file using FLex SDK and PHP on run time. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Gregor Kiddie gregor.kid...@channeladvisor.com wrote: There was part of FDS (before it became LCDS) that had a web-compiler. You called for the swf and if it

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Calling mxmlc/fcsh from PHP script

2010-05-04 Thread Pedro Sena
Take a look at Granite Data Services. It contains a swf compiler On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:50 AM, kanu kukreja kanukukr...@gmail.com wrote: Don't want to go in to FDS or LCDS, need to generate swf file using FLex SDK and PHP on run time. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Gregor Kiddie

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Calling mxmlc/fcsh from PHP script

2010-05-04 Thread Peter Hall
Please can you put flexcoders@yahoogroups.com in the TO field of your emails. If you are cross-posting then please stop it. Apart from that particular point of etiquette, you are messing up my mail filters. Peter On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:45 PM, kanu kukreja kanukukr...@gmail.com wrote: Can

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Thoughts on Flash by Steve Jobs

2010-05-04 Thread Guy Morton
It's PUBLISHED. That's not the same as OPEN. Open formats, like SVG, are generally developed by a standards organisation, with input from any interested parties. Open formats, by definition, can be used without restriction by anyone. Proprietary formats, like Flash, are defined and controlled

[flexcoders] Re: Thoughts on Flash by Steve Jobs

2010-05-04 Thread Jeffry Houser
What restrictions are placed upon the SWF format? None so far as I know. You can take the spec and do whatever you want with it; including creating alternate IDEs and alternate players. You might be able to argue that it is not a standard in the same way that HTML or SVG is. But, that

[flexcoders] Doug Mccune's FOAM Physics example on Flex 4/Air 2

2010-05-04 Thread fusionpage
I tried to open the FOAM physics form example (built for Flex 3) in Flex 4/Air 2 http://dougmccune.com/blog/2008/02/26/examples-from-my-360flex-session-using-open-source-community-projects/ And get the compiler errors below. I've posted a comment on Doug's blog but thought I'd also bounce it off

[flexcoders] Re: Doug Mccune's FOAM Physics example on Flex 4/Air 2

2010-05-04 Thread fusionpage
I downloaded the latest FOAM version http://code.google.com/p/foam-as3/ and it looks like the same Vector-related errors also occurs in all their examples. Looks like FOAM needs to be updated to support Flex 4/Air 2. Maybe the Vector name used in FOAM conflicts with a new Vector class in Flex 4

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Thoughts on Flash by Steve Jobs

2010-05-04 Thread Oleg Sivokon
OK, I will say no more. We are really not reaching a decision here and not listening to each other, so, there's no point to continue.

Re: [flexcoders] Security vulnerabilities of making RPC from HTTP-client to HTTPS-background

2010-05-04 Thread Oleg Sivokon
Sorry, this is not a good answer, because I don't know it and cannot check at the moment. But it is easy to check if you have some traffic analyzer tool. AMF is relatively easy to read, for instance, strings are not compressed or modified in any other way. So, say and you send a test AMF message

[flexcoders] Re: how to handle remote requests the never return or get lost?

2010-05-04 Thread valdhor
What is wrong with the requestTimeout property of a remoteobject? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Baz li...@... wrote: You confirmed my suspicions. I believe that very few developers employ this, but it seems quite important as requests can get lost relatively often. Anyone think it would

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Thoughts on Flash by Steve Jobs

2010-05-04 Thread dorkie dork from dorktown
I think open and closed is too broad... and their definitions are moot. If anything Flash is a daywalker. A half breed. Its a creature of the night but it can exist during the day. It doesn't have to feed on human blood but you wouldn't want to be around him when he's hungry. especially on the

[flexcoders] Reflection does not provide information of Array Objects

2010-05-04 Thread ilikeflex
Hi I have class package valueObjects { public class ActionVO { public var expandedDescription:String; [ArrayElementType(valueObjects.ResourceVO)] public var resources:Array; public function ActionVO(){}

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Thoughts on Flash by Steve Jobs

2010-05-04 Thread Baz
I think open and closed is too broad... and their definitions are moot. If anything Flash is a daywalker. A half breed. Its a creature of the night but it can exist during the day. It doesn't have to feed on human blood but you wouldn't want to be around him when he's hungry. especially on

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Thoughts on Flash by Steve Jobs

2010-05-04 Thread Wally Kolcz
I am failing to see what the issue is on having a proprietary player is anyways. If the company is as devoted to making it better (as adobe seems to be with the whole flash platform experience) what is the issue? Most companies I know that product web/software products are closed and

[flexcoders] SSL + Secret Key, enough to secure remote services?

2010-05-04 Thread Baz
There are tons of different ways to implement security on remote services. I would like to double-check if there are any flaws with the one I am looking at: 1. Load the app swf using HTTPS, which automatically forces all future requests from within the app to use HTTPS 2. Load a secret key that

Re: [flexcoders] Bindable metadata tag event name

2010-05-04 Thread sasuke
Amy-28 wrote: When you use the syntax [Bindable(event=something)] You are telling the compiler I know what I'm doing, and I'm planning to dispatch the event 'something' myself. If you don't, or you're not, just use the default syntax and let Flex dispatch the needed events for you.

Re: [flexcoders] Reflection does not provide information of Array Objects

2010-05-04 Thread Oleg Sivokon
That's just a tag to tell the compiler about how it should treat the array in MXML layout. At runtime this information doesn't persist and it has no effect on how Array behaves. It will still be the same ECMAArray... Vectors do have the type information at runtime, however not after they are

[flexcoders] FB4 Framework Linkage keeps resetting

2010-05-04 Thread reflexactions
We have been converting projects from FB3 to FB4 but the Framework Linkage in the Flex Library Build Path keeps getting reset on a whole bunch of projects, when we open FB it is reset to Merged Into Code when it is supposed to be External. At first of course you think you made a mistake and

[flexcoders] Tree Change Event

2010-05-04 Thread advancedonsite
I'm trying to figure out where I can find how to dispatch the Tree Change Event? I'm more interested in why I can't find it by researching the AS 3.5 docs online but at any rate any help would be much appreciated var result:Boolean = RootTree.dispatchEvent(new TreeEvent( CHANGE?

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Thoughts on Flash by Steve Jobs

2010-05-04 Thread Clark Stevenson
I just dont care. I have never went out my way to support Mac, ever. I think i made a mac screensaver once. Sorry guys im just not interested in it. Lets buy an apple which doesnt run anything versus a pc which does everything you throw at it. No thanks. If iplatform wont support flash, then

[flexcoders] Dynamic skin on spark.component.textinput

2010-05-04 Thread Netaman
I stripped away most of the code and just have all the pertinent parts. The UIComponent is used because I don't know what class I will be adding to the application, I have hard coded the string for clarity. What I am trying to do is dynamically create a textinput spark component, but running

[flexcoders] Looking for a freelance developer - urgent ASAP

2010-05-04 Thread danneri21
Hello, Looking for a Flex developer to customize this component for me. Very quick job, but it's urgent! Please don't hesitate to contact me!!! Estimated time: 1 hour Pay: Excellent. Component: http://strawberrypixel.com/blog/flexwheel-component-page/ My email:

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Thoughts on Flash by Steve Jobs

2010-05-04 Thread Baz
The best part is that HTML5 video is going to be based on H.264 - which is not only a proprietary codec, BUT COSTS MONEY! At least flash is free. Here's an excerpt of what happened with gif: The web in 1999 was a lot smaller than it is today, so a lot of people don’t remember what happened back

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Thoughts on Flash by Steve Jobs

2010-05-04 Thread Guy Morton
I love how people with little or no actual experience of the Mac platform apparently know what it can and can't do. I'm writing this on a an iMac that's running Mac OSX and Windows XP at the same time. Can your PC do that? That was a rhetorical question, by the way. If you don't see any

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Thoughts on Flash by Steve Jobs

2010-05-04 Thread Guy Morton
I agree that's a risk and would prefer to see some clear direction as to how patents covering h.264 will be enforced in the future. Flash decodes h.264 video so it will still get swept up in the same issues as HTML5 will, should those issues arise, so I don't see how Flash is the answer to

[flexcoders] Re: Tree Change Event *SOLVED*

2010-05-04 Thread advancedonsite
http://livedocs.adobe.com/flex/3/html/help.html?content=dpcontrols_8.htm\ l You typically use events to respond to user interaction with a Tree http://livedocs.adobe.com/flex/3/langref/mx/controls/Tree.html control. Since the Tree control is derived from the List

Re: [flexcoders] Reflection does not provide information of Array Objects

2010-05-04 Thread Rajan Jain
Hi Oleg Thanks for the pointers. Regards Rajan From: Oleg Sivokon olegsivo...@gmail.com To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 2:31:04 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Reflection does not provide information of Array Objects   That's just a tag

[flexcoders] custom tree component

2010-05-04 Thread sony antony
Hi, I need to create a custom component which will have a box and a tree inside it using ActionScript. Can any one please suggest a way to do it? Thanks in advance. Sony.

[flexcoders] What's your favorite automated testing tools?

2010-05-04 Thread ssekiguchi
I've got a project where I need to build automated UI tests for the app we're building. Any suggestions on which tool is the best?

Re: [flexcoders] Re: ViewStack historyManagementEnabled fails when nested in spark component

2010-05-04 Thread Alex Harui
HistoryManager is more or less deprecated. We want folks to use BrowserManager going forward. If you absolutely have to get HistoryManager working in a Spark app, it looks like you can try adding a public variable called historyManagementEnabled to your application. fx:Script

[flexcoders] Re: Thoughts on Flash by Steve Jobs

2010-05-04 Thread mitek17
Hi Jeff, Seriously, you can not see the difference between published and open? No kidding? If I want to introduce some changes in SWF format, what should I do to achieve this?. PS Please don't use Why do you need this, anyway(c) as this is a copyrighted answer in Apple community. --- In

[flexcoders] Re: Thoughts on Flash by Steve Jobs

2010-05-04 Thread mitek17
Mea culpa. Everytime Flash plugin crashes and Firefox says Ooops, do you want me to send the info about this crash to Apple? I click on Yes, please. Do you want me to stop doing this, to improve the Flash image? PS I have to admit, I am doing it several times a day, so maybe that's why Jobs

[flexcoders] Re: Out of curiosity, what would Adobe lose if Flash were open sourced?

2010-05-04 Thread mitek17
But, none of the alternate players out there are 100%. Making their source available, it'd probably bring a flood of alternate players. Damn nation! opening the source code of Linux will bring myriads of other linuxes! This agression will not stand!

[flexcoders] Re: Out of curiosity, what would Adobe lose if Flash were open sourced?

2010-05-04 Thread mitek17
Gnash !?!? Di you try use it? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@... wrote: On Tuesday 04 May 2010 00:48:25 you wrote: With the swf format being documented, and available, in theory there could be plenty of different implementation of the Flash Player. And

[flexcoders] Re: Thoughts on Flash by Steve Jobs

2010-05-04 Thread mitek17
OK, if you really-really don't understand the problem, let me rephrase it: one company (A) developing proprietary tools devices refuses to use another's company(B) proprietary product on their proprietary devices. What's the problem? No problem! PS The real problem is that company B believes

[flexcoders] Re: What's your favorite automated testing tools?

2010-05-04 Thread mitek17
from my experience, the best tool to test GUI based projects is a human being with a set of a testcases. If there is a human intreaction intended, no script will handle all possible choices. PS It was kind of funny to see when we hired finally a professional tester and he found on the most