Re: [flexcoders] Is there a way to tell flash NOT to render a certain area?

[dorkie dork from dorktown]

that makes sense. i wanted to make sure there wasn't any other options
before working on that. ps the scroller scrollerbar. the mxml example
doesn't show that.

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Alex Harui  wrote:

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>
> I’m still lost.  Are you trying to control the wrapping Scroller’s
> scrollbar or is there a  scrollbar in your Haccordion?
>
> I think I would build one into the Haccordion that knows how many children
> exist.  That’s how List and others handle virtualized renderers.
>
>
>
> On 7/13/10 2:52 AM, "dorkiedorkfromdorkt...@gmail.com" <
> dorkiedorkfromdorkt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I think what I'm looking for is a way to have it not apply any updates for
> a few frames. In the same way includeInLayout set to false causes it to be
> skipped in the layout, something similar to prevent any updates to scroll
> position.
>
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:54 AM, dorkie dork from dorktown <
> dorkiedorkfromdorkt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> i tried both adding it before and after data is available. the data isn't
> necessary. its as soon as i add a new container to the beginning of the
> accordion
>
> 2010/7/13 Tom Chiverton 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Tuesday 13 Jul 2010 08:48:43 you wrote:
> > right. its for lazy loading. when the scroll thumb goes into the "hot
> area"
> > then it sends requests to the server for new content. when new content is
> > received i create a new container
>
> Why not create an empty 'dummy' container before firing the request, then
> populate it when it comes back ?
>
>
> --
> Alex Harui
> Flex SDK Team
> Adobe System, Inc.
> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>  
>

Re: [flexcoders] Is there a way to tell flash NOT to render a certain area?

[Alex Harui]

I’m still lost.  Are you trying to control the wrapping Scroller’s scrollbar or 
is there a  scrollbar in your Haccordion?

I think I would build one into the Haccordion that knows how many children 
exist.  That’s how List and others handle virtualized renderers.


On 7/13/10 2:52 AM, "dorkiedorkfromdorkt...@gmail.com" 
 wrote:






I think what I'm looking for is a way to have it not apply any updates for a 
few frames. In the same way includeInLayout set to false causes it to be 
skipped in the layout, something similar to prevent any updates to scroll 
position.

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:54 AM, dorkie dork from dorktown 
 wrote:
i tried both adding it before and after data is available. the data isn't 
necessary. its as soon as i add a new container to the beginning of the 
accordion

2010/7/13 Tom Chiverton 






 On Tuesday 13 Jul 2010 08:48:43 you wrote:
> right. its for lazy loading. when the scroll thumb goes into the "hot area"
> then it sends requests to the server for new content. when new content is
> received i create a new container

Why not create an empty 'dummy' container before firing the request, then
populate it when it comes back ?

--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe System, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

Re: [flexcoders] Is there a way to tell flash NOT to render a certain area?

[dorkie dork from dorktown]

I think what I'm looking for is a way to have it not apply any updates for a
few frames. In the same way includeInLayout set to false causes it to be
skipped in the layout, something similar to prevent any updates to scroll
position.

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:54 AM, dorkie dork from dorktown <
dorkiedorkfromdorkt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> i tried both adding it before and after data is available. the data isn't
> necessary. its as soon as i add a new container to the beginning of the
> accordion
>
> 2010/7/13 Tom Chiverton 
>
>
>>
>> On Tuesday 13 Jul 2010 08:48:43 you wrote:
>> > right. its for lazy loading. when the scroll thumb goes into the "hot
>> area"
>> > then it sends requests to the server for new content. when new content
>> is
>> > received i create a new container
>>
>> Why not create an empty 'dummy' container before firing the request, then
>> populate it when it comes back ?
>>
>> --
>> Tom Chiverton
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Re: [flexcoders] Is there a way to tell flash NOT to render a certain area?

[dorkie dork from dorktown]

i tried both adding it before and after data is available. the data isn't
necessary. its as soon as i add a new container to the beginning of the
accordion

2010/7/13 Tom Chiverton 

>
>
> On Tuesday 13 Jul 2010 08:48:43 you wrote:
> > right. its for lazy loading. when the scroll thumb goes into the "hot
> area"
> > then it sends requests to the server for new content. when new content is
> > received i create a new container
>
> Why not create an empty 'dummy' container before firing the request, then
> populate it when it comes back ?
>
> --
> Tom Chiverton
> Helping to completely utilize interactive transparent customers as part of
> the
> IT team of the year 2010, '09 and '08
>
> 
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> This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP.
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Re: [flexcoders] Is there a way to tell flash NOT to render a certain area?

[Tom Chiverton]

On Tuesday 13 Jul 2010 08:48:43 you wrote:
> right. its for lazy loading. when the scroll thumb goes into the "hot area"
> then it sends requests to the server for new content. when new content is
> received i create a new container

Why not create an empty 'dummy' container before firing the request, then 
populate it when it comes back ?

-- 
Tom Chiverton
Helping to completely utilize interactive transparent customers as part of the 
IT team of the year 2010, '09 and '08



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Re: [flexcoders] Is there a way to tell flash NOT to render a certain area?

[dorkie dork from dorktown]

right. its for lazy loading. when the scroll thumb goes into the "hot area"
then it sends requests to the server for new content. when new content is
received i create a new container and add it to the accordion with
addChildAt(newContainer, 0); to make sure it is before existing content. to
keep a natural feel the view should stay where it is, where the user has the
mouse down on the scroll thumb.

code example. this isn't showing lazy loading. it is only showing that when
adding a container before exiting content that new container is selected


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   xmlns:fx="http://ns.adobe.com/mxml/2009";
   xmlns:mx="library://ns.adobe.com/flex/mx"
   xmlns:s="library://ns.adobe.com/flex/spark">




































On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Alex Harui  wrote:

>
>
> I’m having trouble picturing an accordion with scrollbars.  But if it did,
> why wouldn’t the scrollbar be tuned for the total number of children?  Why
> are children being added as you scroll?
>
>
>
> On 7/12/10 6:59 PM, "dorkiedorkfromdorkt...@gmail.com" <
> dorkiedorkfromdorkt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In that case, I'll elaborate on the situation...
>
> I am using a horizontal Accordion component with newest items to the right.
> When you scroll left you get to a location where more items are added. As
> you add each item the scrollbar thumb track jumps to the right and then
> jumps back to where the mouse is. This happens every time a new item is
> added to the accordion.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Alex Harui  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Flash renders what is visible and on the display list.  UIComponent is
> invisible until creationComplete and theoretically, it and all of its
> children shouldn’t be changing after then.  Or make it visible=false until
> you know it is ready.
>
>
>
> On 7/12/10 2:37 PM, "dorkiedorkfromdorkt...@gmail.com <
> http://dorkiedorkfromdorkt...@gmail.com> " <
> dorkiedorkfromdorkt...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> There's a component that I'm adding child components too it. When I do this
> there's a flash as the component is added and resized and then put into the
> right position. Is there a way to prevent a square area from being rendered
> for a second or two? I can fix the issue but I'd have to go into UIComponent
> and mess with the base classes. Since I've run into this before (elastic
> race track) and will in the future its seems a reasonable request.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Alex Harui
> Flex SDK Team
> Adobe System, Inc.
> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>   
>

Re: [flexcoders] Is there a way to tell flash NOT to render a certain area?

[Alex Harui]

I’m having trouble picturing an accordion with scrollbars.  But if it did, why 
wouldn’t the scrollbar be tuned for the total number of children?  Why are 
children being added as you scroll?


On 7/12/10 6:59 PM, "dorkiedorkfromdorkt...@gmail.com" 
 wrote:






In that case, I'll elaborate on the situation...

I am using a horizontal Accordion component with newest items to the right. 
When you scroll left you get to a location where more items are added. As you 
add each item the scrollbar thumb track jumps to the right and then jumps back 
to where the mouse is. This happens every time a new item is added to the 
accordion.


On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Alex Harui  wrote:





Flash renders what is visible and on the display list.  UIComponent is 
invisible until creationComplete and theoretically, it and all of its children 
shouldn’t be changing after then.  Or make it visible=false until you know it 
is ready.



On 7/12/10 2:37 PM, "dorkiedorkfromdorkt...@gmail.com 
 " http://dorkiedorkfromdorkt...@gmail.com> > wrote:






There's a component that I'm adding child components too it. When I do this 
there's a flash as the component is added and resized and then put into the 
right position. Is there a way to prevent a square area from being rendered for 
a second or two? I can fix the issue but I'd have to go into UIComponent and 
mess with the base classes. Since I've run into this before (elastic race 
track) and will in the future its seems a reasonable request.





--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe System, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

Re: [flexcoders] Is there a way to tell flash NOT to render a certain area?

[dorkie dork from dorktown]

In that case, I'll elaborate on the situation...

I am using a horizontal Accordion component with newest items to the right.
When you scroll left you get to a location where more items are added. As
you add each item the scrollbar thumb track jumps to the right and then
jumps back to where the mouse is. This happens every time a new item is
added to the accordion.


On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Alex Harui  wrote:

>
>
> Flash renders what is visible and on the display list.  UIComponent is
> invisible until creationComplete and theoretically, it and all of its
> children shouldn’t be changing after then.  Or make it visible=false until
> you know it is ready.
>
>
>
> On 7/12/10 2:37 PM, "dorkiedorkfromdorkt...@gmail.com" <
> dorkiedorkfromdorkt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> There's a component that I'm adding child components too it. When I do this
> there's a flash as the component is added and resized and then put into the
> right position. Is there a way to prevent a square area from being rendered
> for a second or two? I can fix the issue but I'd have to go into UIComponent
> and mess with the base classes. Since I've run into this before (elastic
> race track) and will in the future its seems a reasonable request.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Alex Harui
> Flex SDK Team
> Adobe System, Inc.
> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>  
>

Re: [flexcoders] Is there a way to tell flash NOT to render a certain area?

[Alex Harui]

Flash renders what is visible and on the display list.  UIComponent is 
invisible until creationComplete and theoretically, it and all of its children 
shouldn’t be changing after then.  Or make it visible=false until you know it 
is ready.


On 7/12/10 2:37 PM, "dorkiedorkfromdorkt...@gmail.com" 
 wrote:






There's a component that I'm adding child components too it. When I do this 
there's a flash as the component is added and resized and then put into the 
right position. Is there a way to prevent a square area from being rendered for 
a second or two? I can fix the issue but I'd have to go into UIComponent and 
mess with the base classes. Since I've run into this before (elastic race 
track) and will in the future its seems a reasonable request.





--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe System, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

[flexcoders] Is there a way to tell flash NOT to render a certain area?

[dorkie dork from dorktown]

There's a component that I'm adding child components too it. When I do this
there's a flash as the component is added and resized and then put into the
right position. Is there a way to prevent a square area from being rendered
for a second or two? I can fix the issue but I'd have to go into UIComponent
and mess with the base classes. Since I've run into this before (elastic
race track) and will in the future its seems a reasonable request.