Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-06-03 Thread Troy Gilbert
It sounds very heroic. I'll keep and eye out for further enlightenment. Is this forum a philosophical debate or a support list for a technology? Come on, Paul... bothered by Scott's presence? Come on, we're writing webapps, not planning federal monetary policy or surgical regimens. There are no

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-06-03 Thread Paul Andrews
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional? It sounds very heroic. I'll keep and eye out for further enlightenment. Is this forum a philosophical debate or a support list for a technology? Come on, Paul... bothered by Scott's presence? Come on, we're

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-06-02 Thread Scott Barnes
- *From:* Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, June 02, 2008 6:04 AM *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional? wow :) I only joined Microsoft in 2007 (prior to which I was on this list coding away

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-06-02 Thread Paul Andrews
It sounds very heroic. I'll keep and eye out for further enlightenment. Paul - Original Message - From: Scott Barnes To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-06-01 Thread Scott Barnes
shouldn't be bothered anyway, it seems. Paul - Original Message - *From:* Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, May 31, 2008 9:18 PM *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional? One of my

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-06-01 Thread Paul Andrews
: Scott Barnes To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 6:04 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional? wow :) I only joined Microsoft in 2007 (prior to which I was on this list coding away in Flex since this list

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-31 Thread Paul Andrews
peeved if Adobe bods were sticking their nose in there) - Original Message - From: Scott Barnes To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional? heh, that would

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-31 Thread bubbamorse
and viewpoints? Damn, that's down right silly... From: Paul Andrews Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 7:06 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional? Microsoft could always avoid mistakes by licencing Flash and Flex

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-31 Thread Josh McDonald
:* Saturday, May 31, 2008 7:06 AM *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional? Microsoft could always avoid mistakes by licencing Flash and Flex technology from Adobe.. ;-) Scott, I won't beat the drum, since I'm

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-31 Thread Paul Andrews
, well I'm not so happy. I've seen it done before. Paul - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional? Wow! I'm amazed

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-31 Thread Troy Gilbert
Overreacting maybe, but not silly. Microsoft has many years of playing nicely ahead of them before they get benefit of the doubt. We don't have to give MS the benefit of the doubt... just Scott. And over the last year or so, I've not seen anything from Scott that would suggest we should give

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-31 Thread Jeffry Houser
One of my friends, a long time ColdFusion Developer has been doing a lot of work with Ruby lately. Are you saying it's wrong for him to talk to me about Ruby? I'm not grokking the basis of your argument. Paul Andrews wrote: I guess I'm the agressive one. I've seen other products where

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-31 Thread Paul Andrews
- From: Jeffry Houser To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional? One of my friends, a long time ColdFusion Developer has been doing a lot of work with Ruby lately

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-31 Thread Paul Andrews
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional? No. I just think that when it's the head of a rival technology company technology, it's different. Clearly, it's not the general view so there's

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-30 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 30 May 2008, Scott Barnes wrote: FYI: If you wanted to build Silverlight with nothing but Notepad, here's how: http://weblogs.asp.net/mschwarz/archive/2007/06/05/how-to-create-silverligh t-applications-with-notepad.aspx I was hoping for nothing but vi, but there's still no sign of

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-30 Thread Paul Andrews
Just for a moment I thought this was the flex coders forum rather than an extension of the MS marketing effort.. - Original Message - From: Scott Barnes To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 4:29 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-30 Thread Troy Gilbert
Just for a moment I thought this was the flex coders forum rather than an extension of the MS marketing effort.. Okay, be nice, it's on-topic... the thread had lead to a question of whether it was possible to develop in Silverlight for free (in the same way its possible to develop in Flex for

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-30 Thread Paul Andrews
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional? Just for a moment I thought this was the flex coders forum rather than an extension of the MS marketing effort.. Okay, be nice, it's on-topic... the thread had lead to a question of whether it was possible

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-30 Thread Scott Barnes
. Paul - Original Message - From: Troy Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] troy.gilbert%40gmail.com To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional? Just

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-29 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 29 May 2008, Scott Barnes wrote: Expression Studio is not required to write Silverlight (It's obviously recommended though). That being said it's kind of like saying Flex Builder is/isn't required to write Flex? :) shrug No offence to Scott, but I just don't trust Microsoft the

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-29 Thread Scott Barnes
No offence taken. FYI: If you wanted to build Silverlight with nothing but Notepad, here's how: http://weblogs.asp.net/mschwarz/archive/2007/06/05/how-to-create-silverlight-applications-with-notepad.aspx Also keep in mind should .NET not be your cup of tea, we've also shipped Silverlight to

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-28 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 27 May 2008, Troy Gilbert wrote: you're talking about)? The .NET SDK is free to use without VS.NET, and I believe it has a 'non compete' clause, but we're not looking to use a single platform solution regardless of cost. the runtime is freely available. Hell, MS even provides a

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-28 Thread Troy Gilbert
I believe it has a 'non compete' clause, but we're not looking to use a single platform solution regardless of cost. It may, it may not. Doesn't really matter, though. If you made a product that competes with an MS product then realistically you can afford to pay $150 to purchase a commercial

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-28 Thread Scott Barnes
Expression Studio is not required to write Silverlight (It's obviously recommended though). That being said it's kind of like saying Flex Builder is/isn't required to write Flex? :) - Scott Barnes Product Manager Microsoft. On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Troy Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: