[Flightgear-devel] Building PLib??

2002-11-25 Thread Carsten . Hoefer
Hello, maybe it's not the right place to ask?! Last week I've installed SuSE 8.1 and tried to build PLib 1.7. It always stops configuring saying it's missing GLut libs. I've installed actual nvidia kernel and GLX drivers and all 3d applications are running. I've also installed zlib and metakit. I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building PLib??

2002-11-25 Thread Martin Spott
Is there anybody experienced with Suse 8.1 and building all libs for FlightGear? Yes, I do - on a daily basis ? Did you read the appropriate section in the 'Getting Started' manual ? I'm quite shure I once put a list of the necessary packeages in that you are supposed to install on your machine

re: [Flightgear-devel] question about 3d models

2002-11-25 Thread David Megginson
On Sun, 2002-11-24 at 22:15, The Tone'ster wrote: It is just that the few 3d tools I have taken a look at, Maya, Blender and one other one (can't rememeber the name, it was a bit ago) are complex to use. Harder, it seems to me anyway, than thinking in terms of edges and nodes in some 0,0,0

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building PLib??

2002-11-25 Thread Carsten . Hoefer
Martin Spott schrieb: Is there anybody experienced with Suse 8.1 and building all libs for FlightGear? Yes, I do - on a daily basis ? Did you read the appropriate section in the Oups, only read Chap.3 by now. Will read the appendix this evening!! Thankx, Carsten

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Failed assertion in ssg.h

2002-11-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Geoff Reidy writes: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Geoff, this would appear to be a potential problem in the tile freeing code. Can you give me a route (i.e. a series of waypoints) that will show the problem (and the approximate place where things die.) Also, leave the visibility at the default

re: [Flightgear-devel] question about 3d models

2002-11-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
The Tone'ster writes: It's not the I _really_ feel the need. It is just that the few 3d tools I have taken a look at, Maya, Blender and one other one (can't rememeber the name, it was a bit ago) are complex to use. Harder, it seems to me anyway, than thinking in terms of edges and nodes in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync 3rd party util

2002-11-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Norman Vine writes: Curtis L. Olson writes: I have my terrasync utility up to a point where it has some basic functionality so I thought I should share it with you all. Currently flying terrasync'ed with Cygwin Cool ! I did a lot more tweaking of this util over the weekend and it's

re: [Flightgear-devel] question about 3d models

2002-11-25 Thread Jim Wilson
Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: and *far* more accurately than doing it all by hand. Actually sometimes even with ac3d available I still need to, rarely, go into an editor to tweak something! But yes, a tool is the way to go. 3d modeling is a lot more complex than word processing.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync 3rd party util

2002-11-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Luff writes: On 11/25/02 at 9:06 AM Curtis L. Olson wrote: ADV: don't bother spending days or weeks downloading all the scenery for the world before you fly. Just install the base program and supporting files. Turn on terrasync and it will fetch just the tiles you need as you fly.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync 3rd party util

2002-11-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jim Wilson writes: Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Terrasync makes you look and feel like you have it all, even though you don't. :-) One question: Does it still come with the Ginzu knife? I'll tell you what, we could set this up as a commercial service and charge $0.01 per

[Flightgear-devel] Magnetic variance

2002-11-25 Thread Jon S Berndt
How accurately do we model magnetic variance? http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html ;-) Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync 3rd party util

2002-11-25 Thread The Tone'ster
--- Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ... a bunch of cool TerraSync stuff ...] Do I have to be building/using the CVS cut of FG to take advantage of TerraSync ? TIA, Tony = ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync 3rd party util

2002-11-25 Thread Norman Vine
David Luff writes: On 11/25/02 at 9:06 AM Curtis L. Olson wrote: Terrasync makes you look and feel like you have it all, even though you don't. :-) Is it likely to work over a 56K modem? Does for me :-) Now all we need is a 'virtual rsync' that uses the fastest mirror :-) Norman

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync 3rd party util

2002-11-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Michael Basler writes: Curt, ADV: don't bother spending days or weeks downloading all the scenery for the world before you fly. Just install the base program and I think this is a VERY useful tool and a breakthrough insofar, as no other sim known to me does have this feature. I just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync 3rd party util

2002-11-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
The Tone'ster writes: --- Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ... a bunch of cool TerraSync stuff ...] Do I have to be building/using the CVS cut of FG to take advantage of TerraSync ? Yes, but not so much for the sake of terrasync, but because the scenery you will be fetching

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync 3rd party util

2002-11-25 Thread Martin Spott
ADV: don't bother spending days or weeks downloading all the scenery for the world before you fly. Just install the base program and supporting files. Turn on terrasync and it will fetch just the tiles you need as you fly. There's still one question remaining: Does it work with a proxy

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync 3rd party util

2002-11-25 Thread David Luff
On 11/25/02 at 5:47 PM Martin Spott wrote: ADV: don't bother spending days or weeks downloading all the scenery for the world before you fly. Just install the base program and supporting files. Turn on terrasync and it will fetch just the tiles you need as you fly. There's still one

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync 3rd party util

2002-11-25 Thread David Luff
On 11/25/02 at 10:11 AM Curtis L. Olson wrote: Terrasync makes you look and feel like you have it all, even though you don't. :-) Is it likely to work over a 56K modem? David, First of all I will say that that I haven't tried it. But, I encourage you to try it yourself since I want to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync 3rd party util

2002-11-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott writes: ADV: don't bother spending days or weeks downloading all the scenery for the world before you fly. Just install the base program and supporting files. Turn on terrasync and it will fetch just the tiles you need as you fly. There's still one question remaining:

[Flightgear-devel] 737-300 panel, 737 yasim, turbine model

2002-11-25 Thread David Culp
I've been converting a FS2002 737 panel to look like the 737-300's I fly. A version with notes is here: http://home.attbi.com/~davidculp2/737-300_with_notes.jpg This jpeg includes some notes on which instruments go where. The master is in BMP format, without the notes of course. This is the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Magnetic variance

2002-11-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon S Berndt writes: How accurately do we model magnetic variance? http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html http://www.ibiblio.org/Dave/Dr-Fun/collections/1988/images/df1988-1282.gif :-) Curt. -- Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Cities[EMAIL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync 3rd party util

2002-11-25 Thread Martin Spott
There's still one question remaining: Does it work with a proxy (Squid) or do you need direct connection to the internet on the machine running FlightGear ? You'd have to get rsync working through a proxy ... I have no idea if that can be done or now. I was not shure if 'rsync' was the only

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync 3rd party util

2002-11-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott writes: I was not shure if 'rsync' was the only way 'terrasync' connects to your server. That's why I was asking. Getting 'rsync' working through a firewall is pretty difficult. You could try to build 'rsync' with 'socks' support, but even then not every firewall supports

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync 3rd party util

2002-11-25 Thread Martin Spott
Well, I hacked this up over the weekend so it's not advertised as the perfect utility that handles every possible situation. The hope is that those for which it doesn't quite work, might be willing to figure something out and submit fixes ... I'm absolutely no C programmer - but I'll see

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync 3rd party util

2002-11-25 Thread Julian Foad
Getting 'rsync' working through a firewall is pretty difficult. You could try to build 'rsync' with 'socks' support, but even then not every firewall supports 'socks'. So I dare to point at the fact that this utility might be pretty useless for several users. If you are _allowed_ to be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync 3rd party util

2002-11-25 Thread Julian Foad
Lovely stuff! terrasync.cxx needs these to compile on my GCC 3.2 / SuSE system: SG_USING_STD(cout); SG_USING_STD(endl); In the usage example in README.txt it would be nice to suggest a port in the private use range (49152-65535), such as 55000, instead of port 5500 which is allocated to

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync 3rd party util

2002-11-25 Thread Michael Basler
Curt, it works with Cygwin, and it is a really cool innonvative feature. A couple of nits only: - I still would suggest transferring this into FlightGear. I first had to download and install gpc (do most Terragear users recall they did once?), which might be annoying for beginners. Terrasync

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync 3rd party util

2002-11-25 Thread David Megginson
Julian Foad writes: [Note: I'm in this position of having FTP but not rsync at work. But I can't think of a good reason why I should be allowed to run Flight Gear, or any other justification for requesting rsync access.] What we need is a way to make rsync masquerade as HTTP -- that's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync 3rd party util

2002-11-25 Thread Tony Peden
On Mon, 2002-11-25 at 09:55, David Luff wrote: On 11/25/02 at 10:11 AM Curtis L. Olson wrote: Terrasync makes you look and feel like you have it all, even though you don't. :-) Is it likely to work over a 56K modem? David, First of all I will say that that I haven't tried it.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Magnetic variance

2002-11-25 Thread Norman Vine
David Megginson writes: Jon S Berndt writes: How accurately do we model magnetic variance? Probably accurately enough -- we use this model http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/seg/potfld/WMMlimit.shtml Norman ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync 3rd party util

2002-11-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: Julian Foad writes: [Note: I'm in this position of having FTP but not rsync at work. But I can't think of a good reason why I should be allowed to run Flight Gear, or any other justification for requesting rsync access.] What we need is a way to make rsync

[Flightgear-devel] heads up ...

2002-11-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Recently a very kind person donated some hardware to upgrade the flightgear web/cvs/ftp/rsync/cvs server. I am respecting their wishes to remain anonymous which is why I've avoided any hoopla. However, in the next few days/weeks(?) I plan to start migrating services over. Complicating this is a

[Flightgear-devel] I2-DSI Terra Vision Service

2002-11-25 Thread Norman Vine
FYI http://terravision.dsi.internet2.edu/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

[Flightgear-devel] Compiling Metakit With Cygwin + gcc 3.2

2002-11-25 Thread Paul Deppe
Gentlemen, I am trying to rebuild Metakit with Cygwin gcc 3.2 in order to get FGFS to link properly. I get the following error (with both mk4 version 2.4.3 and 2.4.8): g++ -c -O2 -DWIN32 -DNDEBUG -I../unix/../include -I../unix/../src -I. ../unix/.. /src/string.cpp -DDLL_EXPORT -DPIC