[Flightgear-devel] 2D-Panel for 707

2005-12-07 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Hi all, just for your information. I'm still working on a 2D-panel for the 707: http://wunderhg.homepage.t-online.de/fgfs-screen-016.jpg In the next weeks, I will release a first version. Kind regards Hans-Georg ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PID Controller Bug the next

2005-10-16 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Hans-Georg Wunder wrote: Jeff McBride wrote: The patch committed by Erik: http://cvs.flightgear.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/viewcvs.cgi/source/src/Autopilot/xmlauto.cxx.diff?r1=1.19&r2=1.20&cvsroot=FlightGear-0.9 should fix this. This is what would happen when you set delta_u_n = u_max

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PID Controller Bug

2005-10-03 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Jeff McBride wrote: The patch committed by Erik: http://cvs.flightgear.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/viewcvs.cgi/source/src/Autopilot/xmlauto.cxx.diff?r1=1.19&r2=1.20&cvsroot=FlightGear-0.9 should fix this. This is what would happen when you set delta_u_n = u_max - u_n_1 : delta_u_n > (u_max - u_n_1) 0.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PID Controller Bug?

2005-10-03 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: On Thursday 29 September 2005 13:51, Hans-Georg Wunder wrote: Time, reference,input,output 09:10:00,0,0,0 09:10:01,0.6,0,-0.4999 Jump into saturation. Thats OK. Only a P-Part, no I-Part 09:10:02,0.6,0,-0.4999 snip! 09:10:13,0.6,0

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft artwork (!) in the 707 panel

2005-10-03 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Andy Ross wrote: Hans-Georg Wunder wrote: In the package there is a GPL-license. If this is enough, then everything is OK regarding the panel. Unfortunately, due to clear evidence of (minor, admittedly) copyright violation, this is not enough. The issue isn't license compatibility,

[Flightgear-devel] Transfer function elevator/climb for root locus analyse for JSBSIM

2005-09-29 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Hello all, is it possible to derive the transfer function from jsbsim fdm coefficients. I know the way to calculate the parameters like Clalpha for a operation point. But for a root locus analyse I need the transfer function (Root locus is used to calculate the PID-Controller parameter) I wou

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PID Controller =?iso-8859-1?q?Bug??=

2005-09-29 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: På 29.09.2005 00:47 CEST skrev Hans-Georg Wunder Behaviour with delta_u_n = 0 and an input jump function of 0.6 Saturation at the beginning o Time, reference,input,output 21:56:54,0,0,0 21:56:55,0,0,0 21:56:56,0,0,0 21:56:57,0,0,0 21:56:58,0,0,0 21:56

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PID Controller Bug?

2005-09-28 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
I hope, this description is not to long, but I think it is very important to have a working controller code First the test results, at the end you will find the test decription for the test controller and a little nasal script for logging. o Behaviour with delta_u_n = 0 and an input jump func

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PID Controller Bug?

2005-09-28 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: On Wednesday 28 September 2005 21:03, Hans-Georg Wunder wrote: The original problem is, when there is an input change from 0 to u_max/kp, the output value is zero. This is wrong. It has to be u_max. The fix from Erik was also my first approach. But it does not solve

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft artwork (!) in the 707 panel

2005-09-28 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Hello Hans-Georg I guess the 707 and flightmodel comes under the GPL so I guess you can modify it as you wish maintaining the terms of the GPL. Hans-Georg Wunder writes > > Hi all, > > I have a question for Innis Cunningham: > I found a wonderful package of a 707 from [EMAIL P

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PID Controller Bug?

2005-09-28 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
It would be great, if you also test the code. Hans-Georg Jeff McBride wrote: Ahh, yes. I see your point. Since the change in output is based on change in error (not current error), if the amount of output shift is altered but the last error (ep_n_1) is not the two will effectively become out o

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PID Controller Bug?

2005-09-28 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
The original problem is, when there is an input change from 0 to u_max/kp, the output value is zero. This is wrong. It has to be u_max. The fix from Erik was also my first approach. But it does not solve the problem. Under some circumstances the controller stays in saturation for ever. I th

[Flightgear-devel] 2D-Panel for the 707

2005-09-27 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Hi all, I adapted the 2D-panel of a 707 from George Carty for FlightGear and merged it with the 3D-Model of Innis Cunningham. Here are the results: http://wunderhg.homepage.t-online.de/707-KSFO.jpg http://wunderhg.homepage.t-online.de/707_27092005.tar.gz Next days I will create some docs, how

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PID Controller Bug?

2005-09-27 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Hello Jeff, I found the same bug some days ago and I reported it here on the lists. Your solution was also my first approach, but it did not work for the Integrator-part. The value ep_n is wrong for the next cycle. But after a looot of testing I found this solution: // Integr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bug or feature in xmlauto.cxx ?

2005-09-11 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: On Friday 19 August 2005 23:58, Hans-Georg Wunder wrote: Hi all, I try to configure a P-Controller, but I have problems with the anti-windup logic: The velocity form of the PID control algorithm _needs_ to have an integral component. If you need to use a P only

[Flightgear-devel] Bug or feature in xmlauto.cxx ?

2005-08-19 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Hi all, I try to configure a P-Controller, but I have problems with the anti-windup logic: My controller looks like this Test controller true /autopilot/test/status go /autopilot/test/input /autopilot/test/reference /a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3 USB Joysticks CH

2005-05-25 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Hi, as far as I know, they are not supported by the standard kernel. I am using the 2.4.27 and I have had the same problem. You have to apply a patch. Look at this http://baron.flightgear.org/pipermail/flightgear-users/2003-January/003401.html and this http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nav0/Nav1 course tracking and ILS approach code corrections

2005-03-01 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Curtis L. Olson wrote: David Luff wrote: On 27/02/2005 at 22:51 Hans-Georg Wunder wrote: Hi all, some days ago, I have made some proposals to correct errors in flightgear. Now, I would like to know, íf this is the right procedure to add code to the cvs or if there is an other way defined

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nav0/Nav1 course tracking and ILS approach code corrections

2005-02-27 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Hi all, some days ago, I have made some proposals to correct errors in flightgear. Now, I would like to know, íf this is the right procedure to add code to the cvs or if there is an other way defined ?? Kind regards Hans-Georg Hans-Georg Wunder wrote: Hi all, for the A320-200 2D-panel I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:update_helper() getting hairy (was:Nav0/Nav1 course tracking and ILS approach)

2005-02-16 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Now I am able to follow the ILS. Is this a bug in flightgear, or do I have the wrong understanding and do I use the wrong properties I think that adding more helpers to the autopilot like this will grow into a big hairy mess. I say we move the helpers into the instruments where they belon

[Flightgear-devel] Nav0/Nav1 course tracking and ILS approach

2005-02-12 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Hi all, for the A320-200 2D-panel I tried to activate the course tracking with nav1. But it doesn't work. Then I checked the source and I found the following in src/Autopilot/xmlauto.cxx 874 // Calculate nav1 target heading error normalized to +/- 180.0 875 static SGPropertyNode *target

[Flightgear-devel] Atlas release candidate

2005-02-12 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Hello David, I just compiled the new Atlas-version on my Linux-Box (Debian 3.1) and it works great. I have had no compile-problems and the maps are looking very nice. With the new version I am able to visit foreign airports without additionnel enroute and approach charts. Great. One question I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2D-Panel for A320

2005-02-02 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
David Culp wrote: >>I started to create a 2D-panel for the A320. >>... >>But now i got stuck, because I have 3 questions: > > > > Nice work Hans-Georg! It seems to me that the FlightGear developers who have > OpenGL experience have lost interest in the 2D panel code some time ago, and > their

[Flightgear-devel] 2D-Panel for A320

2005-02-01 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Hi all, I started to create a 2D-panel for the A320. First I send this Email to the Users lists, but there I got the hint to send it to the devel-list. Here I am Here is the first shot: http://home.t-online.de/home/wunder.hans-georg/A320-200_31012005.jpg You can download it from : http://home.t-on