Re: [Flightgear-devel] Comments on FGFS review summary

2002-06-07 Thread Alex Perry
Curtis L. Olson writes: - There is a severe proplem going to first notch of flaps. Extreme pitch up. You need *full* down trip to fly level with any flaps at all. It is speed range dependent. If you follow the recommended profile of speeds and flap selections, the pitching

[Flightgear-devel] Comments on FGFS review summary

2002-06-06 Thread Alex Perry
From: Melchior FRANZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, let's sort the items and add a few: - Old-fashioned overall appearance Yep. Our photographic fidelity is deprecated wrt functional representation. 2001-era flight simulators have inherited a lot of the visual artistry of the 3D combat video games,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Comments on FGFS review summary

2002-06-06 Thread Olivier Grisel
On Sat, 01 Jun 2002 14:24:45 -0700 Alex Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meanwhile, it would be a nice upgrade to have a menu item that brings up a dialog which contains _every_ command line parameter that is not otherwise represented in the existing set of run-time accessible menu items. The

re: [Flightgear-devel] Comments on FGFS review summary

2002-06-06 Thread David Megginson
Alex Perry writes: - not to be compared with state-of-the art simulators This can be a good thing, for all their associated features that we hate. When I started my flying lessons, and the JSBSim and YASim 172's were both having problems, I decided not to be prejudiced and to go back

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Comments on FGFS review summary

2002-06-06 Thread David Megginson
Arnt Karlsen writes: ..IMHO, we should have more oddball EAA planes than spam cans and airliners. BlomVoss 141, Me 323, Me 163, and the Horten Vings, Howard Hughes Spruce Goose, Van's RV3-4-5-6-7-8-9, Rutans Vari-Viggen, VariEze, Defiant, Lancair IV, Colomban Cri-Cri, Zenair CH-801,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Comments on FGFS review summary

2002-06-06 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson writes: - There is a severe proplem going to first notch of flaps. Extreme pitch up. You need *full* down trip to fly level with any flaps at all. Lowering flaps does cause a very nasty pitching moment during low-speed maneuvers on a C172 (i.e. approach, when you're

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Comments on FGFS review summary

2002-06-06 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 14:48:49 -0400 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lowering flaps does cause a very nasty pitching moment during low-speed maneuvers on a C172 (i.e. approach, when you're too close to stall-speed and too close to the ground already) -- not as nasty as what you describe,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Comments on FGFS review summary

2002-06-06 Thread Erik Hofman
Jon S Berndt wrote: On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 14:48:49 -0400 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lowering flaps does cause a very nasty pitching moment during low-speed maneuvers on a C172 (i.e. approach, when you're too close to stall-speed and too close to the ground already) -- not as

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Comments on FGFS review summary

2002-06-06 Thread Gene Buckle
Tony: Should we make it nastier? Is there a human factors scale anywhere that has Nasty on it? :-) Hmm, nasty enough? Eff = (16*h / b)*(16*h / b) Oe = Eff*Eff/(1 + Eff*Eff)(where 0 = Oe = 1) D = q_infinite * S * (CDo + 0e * ( (CL*CL)/(pi * e * A * r) ) ) D: decrease in drag

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Comments on FGFS review summary

2002-06-06 Thread David Megginson
Jon S Berndt writes: Should we make it nastier? Is there a human factors scale anywhere that has Nasty on it? :-) One American Nasty unit =~ 0.789 Metric Paris Cabbies. All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.megginson.com/

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Comments on FGFS review summary

2002-06-06 Thread Martin Spott
For what it's worth, I'm involved in a side project that is using FlightGear + a commercial C172 flight dynamics model + cockpit hardware to hopefully achieve an FAA (and JAR) certified sim by late summer / early fall. The commercial fdm will run as a seperate program [...] Hmm, _this_

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Comments on FGFS review summary

2002-06-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 13:35:47 -0400, David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arnt Karlsen writes: ..IMHO, we should have more oddball EAA planes than spam cans and airliners. BlomVoss 141, Me 323, Me 163, and the Horten Vings, Howard Hughes Spruce