Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bug: missing the runway

2003-09-04 Thread Innis Cunningham
I did a little research this afternoon dont know if it is of any use. Using the old airport file with Fredric's MSVC 9.2 version of 11 June I tried KSFO rwy 28L10R,KOAK rwy 27L2911 and YSSY(Sydney Australia) rwy 16R 34L in all cases the A/C lined up smack down the middle of the runway. I then

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Framerate drop

2003-09-04 Thread Norman Vine
Jim Wilson writes: Norman Vine [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: This came from Siggraph 2003 as did this cloud paper from MS http://ofb.net/~eggplant/clouds/CloudsInGames_NinianeWang.pdf Hmmm...some interesting hints in there. Indeed, I esp like the super impostor i.e the 'distant' clouds

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bug: missing the runway

2003-09-04 Thread Lawrence Manning
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, David Megginson wrote: Curtis L. Olson writes: Can you list a specific example? CYRP. Sorry, I probably wasn't clear in my question. What about CYRP is not correct? The plane starts far before the threshold and to the right of the centreline.

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Framerate drop

2003-09-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Norman Vine writes: Jim Wilson writes: Norman Vine [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: This came from Siggraph 2003 as did this cloud paper from MS http://ofb.net/~eggplant/clouds/CloudsInGames_NinianeWang.pdf Hmmm...some interesting hints in there. Indeed, I esp like the super

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Framerate drop

2003-09-04 Thread Norman Vine
Curtis L. Olson writes: Norman Vine writes: Jim Wilson writes: Norman Vine [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: This came from Siggraph 2003 as did this cloud paper from MS http://ofb.net/~eggplant/clouds/CloudsInGames_NinianeWang.pdf Hmmm...some interesting hints in there.

RE: [Flightgear-devel] 3D Clouds (was RE: Framerate drop)

2003-09-04 Thread Norman Vine
Jim Wilson writes: Norman Vine [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Jim Wilson writes: Norman Vine [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: This came from Siggraph 2003 as did this cloud paper from MS http://ofb.net/~eggplant/clouds/CloudsInGames_NinianeWang.pdf Hmmm...some interesting hints

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] Flattening Stuff

2003-09-04 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Further to Curt's last post about flattening rivers, how would everyone feel about flattening airports? When you look at large airports, say with runways over 3 km, you'll find quite a few where the runways follow the terrain at least over a difference

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] Flattening Stuff

2003-09-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott writes: David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Further to Curt's last post about flattening rivers, how would everyone feel about flattening airports? When you look at large airports, say with runways over 3 km, you'll find quite a few where the runways follow the terrain

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] Flattening Stuff

2003-09-04 Thread jj
Don't recall the specific change in height of the two runway ends, but KMRY has quite a downslope change toward the West as one real world example. jj For what it's worth, when I was looking into this, I found some examples of runways with their ends literally at least 100' different in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] Flattening Stuff

2003-09-04 Thread David Culp
Some good examples of un-flat runways: KATL ( especially 8R, concave ) San Jose, Costa Rica ( steep slope, strong visual illusion ) Guatemala City, Guatemala ( very concave runway ) On a related note, here are some airports that the FAA considers special, as of 1990, and why:

[Flightgear-devel] new scenery samples

2003-09-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
I have been fiddling around with the scenery building tools to incorporate 30m SRTM data for N/S america, updated/current airport/runway data based on the latest DAFIF cycle, updated taxiways, lighting, and approach data, etc. Also included is vmap0 roads, railroads, rivers, lakes, landc

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bug: missing the runway

2003-09-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: Curtis L. Olson writes: Can you list a specific example? CYRP. Sorry, I probably wasn't clear in my question. What about CYRP is not correct? The plane starts far before the threshold and to the right of the centreline. David, I lined up

[Flightgear-devel] Fatal: cannot compile

2003-09-04 Thread Roland Häder
Hello, I have following Software installed: - Debian Unstable (latest packages) - g++ -v does return: Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.2/specs Configured with: ../src/configure -v --enable-languages=c,c++,java,f77,pascal,objc,ada,treelang --prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man

Re: Out of Office AutoReply: [Flightgear-devel] Fatal: cannot compile

2003-09-04 Thread Roland Hder
Is this possible to stop? This could start a lavine (mass mailing)... :-( On Thursday 04 September 2003 09:37 pm, you wrote: Hi. I'm currently on leave and won't be available till the 15'th of September. Please refer any urgent matters to Mark Petrusma, or Rob Anderson. Regards, Themie

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Old problem returns?

2003-09-04 Thread Matevz Jekovec
A left click will automagically return you to the 'forward view' In Falcon, we always had face turned forward in inside view when coming back from the outside one. When switching from inside to outside one, the outside was left alone though. I think this is very reasonable because in 99%

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] Flattening Stuff

2003-09-04 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson writes: For what it's worth, when I was looking into this, I found some examples of runways with their ends literally at least 100' different in elevation. Most aren't nearly that far off, but there are a few. For a 10,000 ft runway, that would require less than a 1%

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] Flattening Stuff

2003-09-04 Thread David Megginson
Martin Spott writes: Further to Curt's last post about flattening rivers, how would everyone feel about flattening airports? When you look at large airports, say with runways over 3 km, you'll find quite a few where the runways follow the terrain at least over a difference in the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bug: missing the runway

2003-09-04 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson writes: David, I lined up fine in the yf23-yasim with the scenery I generated last night. I'll try rebuilding the airports with the latest CVS, then. Thanks, David ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

re: [Flightgear-devel] new scenery samples

2003-09-04 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson writes: I have been fiddling around with the scenery building tools to incorporate 30m SRTM data for N/S america, updated/current airport/runway data based on the latest DAFIF cycle, updated taxiways, lighting, and approach data, etc. Also included is vmap0 roads,

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] Flattening Stuff

2003-09-04 Thread Norman Vine
David Megginson writes: Curtis L. Olson writes: For what it's worth, when I was looking into this, I found some examples of runways with their ends literally at least 100' different in elevation. Most aren't nearly that far off, but there are a few. For a 10,000 ft runway,

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] Flattening Stuff

2003-09-04 Thread David Megginson
Norman Vine writes: Have you tried preinserting some of the the higher res srtm1 data to terra innide of and on the edges of the airport polygons ? This shoud be quite accurate. Maybe *too* accurate -- at the resolution, a 747 parked on the field will start to show up in the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] Flattening Stuff

2003-09-04 Thread Norman Vine
David Megginson writes: Norman Vine writes: Have you tried preinserting some of the the higher res srtm1 data to terra innide of and on the edges of the airport polygons ? This shoud be quite accurate. Maybe *too* accurate -- at the resolution, a 747 parked on the field will

re: [Flightgear-devel] new scenery samples

2003-09-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: Curtis L. Olson writes: I have been fiddling around with the scenery building tools to incorporate 30m SRTM data for N/S america, updated/current airport/runway data based on the latest DAFIF cycle, updated taxiways, lighting, and approach data, etc. Also

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] Flattening Stuff

2003-09-04 Thread Norman Vine
Curtis L. Olson writes: Norman Vine writes: David Megginson writes: Norman Vine writes: Have you tried preinserting some of the the higher res srtm1 data to terra innide of and on the edges of the airport polygons ? This shoud be quite accurate. Maybe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] new scenery samples

2003-09-04 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 16:15:48 -0500 Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. Curt. Is it worth a new screen shot? Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

[Flightgear-devel] *awk

2003-09-04 Thread Jon S Berndt
Which is better: awk gawk nawk ?? Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] *awk

2003-09-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon S Berndt writes: Which is better: awk gawk nawk Those are for the old geezers :-) and the occasional quick command line hack (like extracting a particular set of fields from each line of an input stream.) I'd recommend learning perl or python or both as replacements. :-) Curt. --

re: [Flightgear-devel] *awk

2003-09-04 Thread David Megginson
Jon S Berndt writes: Which is better: awk gawk nawk perl All the best, David ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] *awk

2003-09-04 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:31:11 -0400 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon S Berndt writes: Which is better: awk gawk nawk perl David I'm going to take a wild guess here: I'll bet you and Curt didn't do to well in multiple choice tests in school? ;-) Jon

Re: [Flightgear-devel] *awk

2003-09-04 Thread Tony Peden
On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 15:17, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Jon S Berndt writes: Which is better: awk gawk nawk Those are for the old geezers :-) and the occasional quick command line hack (like extracting a particular set of fields from each line of an input stream.) I'd recommend

Re: [Flightgear-devel] *awk

2003-09-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Tony Peden writes: On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 15:17, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Jon S Berndt writes: Which is better: awk gawk nawk Those are for the old geezers :-) and the occasional quick command line hack (like extracting a particular set of fields from each line of an input

Re: [Flightgear-devel] *awk

2003-09-04 Thread Jim Wilson
Jon S Berndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Which is better: awk gawk nawk ?? Well I'm going to throw in the old it depends on what you are doing. Since I've been around longer than perl, I still use awk for a lot of one line stuff. For example it often works better than xargs (piped out

[Flightgear-devel] Height of buildings

2003-09-04 Thread Ivo
Recently I experimented a little with AC3D, PPE and Blender and I was wondering how big one has to make a model to have it at the appropriate height when rendered by FG. If I want it to be 380 feet (the Rembrandttower in Amsterdam), how many grid-squares is 380 feet? Or can I rescale a model

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Terragear-devel] Flattening Stuff

2003-09-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: Curtis L. Olson writes: For what it's worth, when I was looking into this, I found some examples of runways with their ends literally at least 100' different in elevation. Most aren't nearly that far off, but there are a few. For a 10,000 ft runway, that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] *awk

2003-09-04 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 04 September 2003 23:39, Jon S Berndt wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:31:11 -0400 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon S Berndt writes: Which is better: awk gawk nawk perl David I'm going to take a wild guess here: I'll bet you and Curt

Re: [Flightgear-devel] *awk

2003-09-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Lee Elliott writes: On Thursday 04 September 2003 23:39, Jon S Berndt wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:31:11 -0400 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon S Berndt writes: Which is better: awk gawk nawk perl David I'm going to take a wild

[Flightgear-devel] glHorizon

2003-09-04 Thread Jon Berndt
Did I mention this link yet? http://www.web-discovery.net/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] glHorizon

2003-09-04 Thread Tony Peden
On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 22:06, Jon Berndt wrote: Did I mention this link yet? http://www.web-discovery.net/ Very cool! ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Tony

Re: [Flightgear-devel] *awk

2003-09-04 Thread Tony Peden
On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 17:06, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Tony Peden writes: On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 15:17, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Jon S Berndt writes: Which is better: awk gawk nawk Those are for the old geezers :-) and the occasional quick command line hack (like