[Flightgear-devel] Helicopter flight model
Hi, Do we have a helicopter FDM ? I have built a grate CH53D helicopter and really like to fly it as a helicopter and not as a ufo ;-) Thanks Erez __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Re: 3DS Models in Flightgear
Hi, I've used 3ds files for FlightGear models in both Linux and M$ 2K (A CH53D model). Under Linux the support of PLib seams better then under M$ 2K, but even under Linux I have encountered several PLib issues: * Objects Names are not always recognized. * Some textures are not loaded. Other then the above Linux supporter 3ds gritty well. Under M$ 2K: * All of the above * Objects loaded with STATIC OBJECT do not recognize the altitude parameters if they are in 3ds format. I haven't been able to find documentation on what is or is not supported in PLib I just tried several models and found out. Erez Message: 5 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 11:51:06 +0200 (SAST) From: Danie Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Flightgear-devel] 3DS Models in Flightgear Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, The documentation on creating models for Flightgear doesn't say anything about .3DS files. Is it possible to load .3DS files for Flightgear ? If yes, where can I find information on the format of the files, if I may use materials etc ... Kind Regards Danie Heath Software Integrator RisC Com cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.risccom.co.za __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Re: TerraGear Help
OK, Seams that I'm on my way ! Now for the easy part, importing the DTED ;-) Thanks for your help Erez __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Re: TerraGear Help
Hi, Curtis and all OK, Upgrading automake to v1.6 as you have recommended did solve the autogen.sh script problem, TerraGear did start to compile. Now it seams that it has another issue, this time in the TerraGear code itself. In both the CVS code and the 0.0.5 code the build process brakes down with the following error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgenpolyclip Running the compilation through Kdevelop it stops with the error: --- hgt.cxx: In method `bool TGHgt::open (const SGPath )': hgt.cxx:95: no matching function for call to `SGPath::file ()' --- in line 95 of the file hgt.cxx : --- hgt.cxx: In method `bool TGHgt::open (const SGPath )': hgt.cxx:95: no matching function for call to `SGPath::file ()' --- any hints on who to solve this one ? I guess it's something related to SimGear and I do have SimGear Installed. I have seen in the TerraGear site that SimGear 0.3.0 is needed, currently I have installed 0.3.1 is that causing that problem ? And one final Q, the TerraGear readme say that I need to set FG_ROOT_LIB, I didn't find a LIB directory in FlightGear, what is that ? Thanks Erez __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] TerraGear help
Hi, Sorry to bother you again with my TerraGear problems. It seams that the TerraGear team has vanished and there is no way of getting help on their mailing list. Since TerraGear is the only tool I have found that will help me import DTED in to FlightGear I desperately need to be able to compile it and use it to build scenery. So if you can give me a hint on who to solve the following problem .. I have downloaded the CVS files of TerraGear. The instructions say that I need to run the ./autogen.sh script then ./configure make but the ./autogen.sh script produce the following message : /usr/share/automake-1.5/am/depend2.am: AMDEP does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL it's not stopping it just finish announcing that I can run ./configure but when I get to the make stage make is running an unfinished automake script and fails with Missing separator. The failing file does not have a make syntax it looks like an automake that didn't run correctly. Can you hint on where to start looking for the problem ? Do you know of another tool that will help me compile DTED / DEM data in to scenery ? Or do you know if I can find TerraGear RPMS any ware ? Thanks Erez __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] TerraGear help
Curtis, Thanks for your replay. I don't think the terragear developers have vanished, it's just that probably none of us know quite what to make of your problem. Well, what I mean is that Im on the Terragear-devel list, the first message I received in the 3 weeks Im on that list was today announcing TerraGear 0.0.5. Maybe there is a problem with my subscription .. This *sounds* like you have a broken automake / autoconf installation, or are using too old or too new versions of one or more of the auto tools. Unfortunately, the auto tools developers make changes that are neither forwards or backwards compatible so it's impossible to write a complex configure script that support all the auto tool versions simultaneously. Can you please list the versions I need to compile TerraGear ? I have just upgraded AutoMake to V1.5 as demanded by the TerraGear autogen.sh but maybe I need to upgrade / downgrade other tools too. Thanks Erez __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] (offtopic) Terrain
Hi, ulator which among other things demonstrate an IFR Primary display based on a digital 3D map. basically instead of displaying a ADI/HSI display we give a 3D world as a background and additional flight and navigation symbology. We also have a 3D tactical display which is an expansion of what you called Terrain-aided navigation. It's a 3D map overplayed by tactical information like routs, avoidance zones, ILS cones, TCAS display etc. I'm currently trying to find ways to utilize FlightGear for that project. As for DTED data, I suppose that u need a model of our homeland, and that you need to run it in FlightGear. For FlightGear you can download scenery from : http://www.flightgear.org/Downloads/world-scenery.html It's a shitty level 0 data so 4 example the Carmel looks like a small bup in the terrain but it's the easyest way to go. You can also download from: http://edcdaac.usgs.gov/gtopo30/gtopo30.html It's also level 0 data but ... I didn't find a FREE Level 1 data yet. There is a Level 1 data from the Ofeck company but they want money for that data. I have some of that data at work but since it's propriety data I can't just give it 2 you. I'm trying to compile FlightGear scenery from that data but didn't succeed yet. Currentlly stuck on TerraGear compilation issues. Have fun Erez Message: 15 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 21:40:44 +0200 (IST) From: Elad Yarkoni [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Flightgear-devel] (offtopic) Terrain elevation data Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi There, Does anybody know where I can find a sampled heightmap (of any place on earth, at any resolution) ? I need to submit a project about terrain-aided navigation, and I need to run some simulations (and somehow, I feel that using synthetic-noise maps is much like cheating). A brief search on the web lead me to nowhere (I didn't look at the right places, I suppose), except for some 3DS meshes (which are either synthetic, or not equally distributed as a grid, or broken links :) ). Thanks a million, Elady. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] (offtopic) Terrain elevation data
Hi, just a small additional pointer, You can also download all types of data from NIMA at: http://geoengine.nima.mil Erez __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Re: Creating new scenery
Hi, OK, changing the fgstream.hxx to sgstream.hxx seams to work for that problem but doing that started an avalanche of undefined symbols. I have started to change these from FG to SG but it seams that there are about a million of them. So I have took the CVS advice. The CVS readme also wrote to set the FG_ROOT, FG_ROOT_SRC, and FG_ROOT_LIB environment variables and I guess that FG_ROOT is where my Flight Gear is installed, FG_ROOT_SRC is where the Flight Gear source is placed but what is FG_ROOT_LIB ? Another thing, TerraGear demanded automake 1.5 but after upgrading to 1.5 the autogen script result in an error : Running autoheader /usr/bin/m4: configure.in: No such file or directory ERROR: autoheader didn't create simgear/simgear_config.h.in! And Kdevekop is *.m4 files when I try to compile or create new projects. What I did to install 1.5 is to install the rpm then ln -s the 1.5 to /usr/bin/automake the same way it was linked when 1.4 was installed. Should I upgrade other components ? Thanks Erez __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Creating new scenery
Hi, It's more a TerraGear question but it seams that the TerraGear list is dead so I'm trying my luck here, hoping some one can help me. I'm compiling TerraGear and for some reason, it keeps complaining about simgear/misc/fgstream.hxx. I have all the latest files from FlightGear, SimGear etc. and there is no such file. Any suggestions ? I have : Flight gear ver - 0.9.1 SimGear - 0.3.1 gpc231 plib-1.6.0 Anyone have experience with importing DTED level 1 into FlightGear ? Thanks Erez __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Re: Flightgear-devel digest, Vol 1 #1367 - 11 msgs
Hi, Did anyone start to document these properties in another way, or do we have no documentation about these xml properties ? Erez We had a discussion about this subject a few weeks back and came to the conclusion that automatic generation of the property lists probably won't give the desired result. If you insist on using this approach, you can find the xml parser in the simgear/xml directory of SimGear (esp. easyxml.?xx). Erik __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Re: xml property documentation
Hi, Did anyone start to document these properties in another way, or do we have no documentation about these xml properties ? Erez We had a discussion about this subject a few weeks back and came to the conclusion that automatic generation of the property lists probably won't give the desired result. If you insist on using this approach, you can find the xml parser in the simgear/xml directory of SimGear (esp. easyxml.?xx). Erik __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Re: xml property documentation
HI, Well, I'm new to FlightGear tweaking, but I find it strange that to use flight gear (Add objects, add aircrafts etc.) you have to search the source files, just to find these xml properties that will enable me to do that work. In my inexpert eyes it's something we must maintain otherwise we limit FlightGear usage to code reader experts that can tweak the source files. Normal users that only want to add things to flight gear would be left out or bug mailing lists for these properties. Erez __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] xml property documentation
Hi, Do we documentation of all the various properties that can be set through the xml setup files ? If not, I have tried to find the xml parser in the source tree with no luck, where would be the best place to start reverse engineer the xml parser to produce such documentation ? Erez __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Importing DTED level 1 data in to FlightGear
Hi, Is there a tool that will help me import DTED level 1 data in to FlightGear ? Are there any HOWTOs that will help me do that ? I have looked on the HOWTOs on FlightGear.org but other then some theoretical HOWTOs I couldn't find real practical ones. Thanks Erez __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
