RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Outlook comments
Alex Perry writes: I have been wondering whether the Outlook autorun feature could conveniently be used to assist Windows users who would like to use FlightGear. They sign up for the mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] as usual and their start of subscription mail message has a PIF attachment that autoinstalls FlightGear. Thereafter, whenever we have a version upgrade, the announcement is copied to that mailing list ... together with a PIF autorun attachment that will apply the upgrade without user intervention. This is a good idea, but I think that we can take it a little further. What if the PIF attachment automatically uninstalled MSFS and installed FGFS in its place? Curt would need to upgrade his server to handle the load, of course, but then we could start sending out the attachment even to people who do not currently use FlightGear, just to ease their transition to Open Source. We should get in touch with Linus and Alan -- they could use this technique to get Linux better established on the desktop as well. All the best, David ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Outlook comments
I have been wondering whether the Outlook autorun feature could conveniently be used to assist Windows users who would like to use FlightGear. They sign up for the mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] as usual and their start of subscription mail message has a PIF attachment that autoinstalls FlightGear. Thereafter, whenever we have a version upgrade, the announcement is copied to that mailing list ... together with a PIF autorun attachment that will apply the upgrade without user intervention. This is a good idea, but I think that we can take it a little further. What if the PIF attachment automatically uninstalled MSFS and installed FGFS in its place? Curt would need to upgrade his server to handle the load, of course, but then we could start sending out the attachment even to people who do not currently use FlightGear, just to ease their transition to Open Source. We should get in touch with Linus and Alan -- they could use this technique to get Linux better established on the desktop as well. I don't know which is worse waste of bandwith Worms and/or virii on Windows, Trolls % move thread /dev/nul Norman ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Outlook comments
Curtis L. Olson writes: Norman Vine writes: I don't know which is worse waste of bandwith Worms and/or virii on Windows, Trolls % move thread /dev/nul Actually, this should be /dev/null if you misspell null you're file system will probabably fill up rather quickly. (Spoken from personal experience.) :-) Yes indeed, more evidence that it's usually operator error :-) Cheers Norman ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Outlook comments
We should get in touch with Linus and Alan -- they could use this technique to get Linux better established on the desktop as well. Since Alan is taking time out to do an MBA, maybe he will learn about this type of business practice anyway :-) Richard ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Outlook comments
Norman Vine writes: Actually, this should be /dev/null if you misspell null you're file system will probabably fill up rather quickly. (Spoken from personal experience.) :-) Yes indeed, more evidence that it's usually operator error :-) Especially since Curt's mail filter shouldn't have been running as root anyway (and thus, should not have had write permissions to /dev/). Let's all leave the Outlook users in peace for a while and go after Curt instead. All the best, David ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Outlook comments
David Megginson writes: Norman Vine writes: Actually, this should be /dev/null if you misspell null you're file system will probabably fill up rather quickly. (Spoken from personal experience.) :-) Yes indeed, more evidence that it's usually operator error :-) Especially since Curt's mail filter shouldn't have been running as root anyway (and thus, should not have had write permissions to /dev/). Let's all leave the Outlook users in peace for a while and go after Curt instead. I'll just switch to outlook until this current sentiment passes. :-) Curt. -- Curtis Olson HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Citiescurt 'at' me.umn.edu curt 'at' flightgear.org Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.org ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Outlook comments
Curtis L. Olson writes: David Megginson writes: Norman Vine writes: Actually, this should be /dev/null if you misspell null you're file system will probabably fill up rather quickly. (Spoken from personal experience.) :-) Yes indeed, more evidence that it's usually operator error :-) Especially since Curt's mail filter shouldn't have been running as root anyway (and thus, should not have had write permissions to /dev/). Let's all leave the Outlook users in peace for a while and go after Curt instead. I'll just switch to outlook until this current sentiment passes. :-) Umm shouldn't that be lookout :-) Cheers Norman ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Outlook comments
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Norman Vine) [2003.08.29 08:27]: Curtis L. Olson writes: I'll just switch to outlook until this current sentiment passes. :-) Umm shouldn't that be lookout :-) I generally refer to it as Outbreak, myself. -- Cameron Moore [ You're mind can only absorb what you seek out and endure. ] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Outlook comments
Cameron Moore wrote: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Norman Vine) [2003.08.29 08:27]: Curtis L. Olson writes: I'll just switch to outlook until this current sentiment passes. :-) Umm shouldn't that be lookout :-) I generally refer to it as Outbreak, myself. Kids, We are going to lose some developers this way. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Outlook comments
I have been wondering whether the Outlook autorun feature could conveniently be used to assist Windows users who would like to use FlightGear. They sign up for the mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] as usual and their start of subscription mail message has a PIF attachment that autoinstalls FlightGear. Thereafter, whenever we have a version upgrade, the announcement is copied to that mailing list ... together with a PIF autorun attachment that will apply the upgrade without user intervention. Convenient, no ? From: Norman Vine [EMAIL PROTECTED] May we please put this thread to rest and allow FGFS to return to soaring above petty OS bigotry Seconded. FWIW, the discussion is not about OS bigotry. Anybody can run Outlook (with WINE) on Linux and run most Linux mail readers on Windows. With the former, a default Outlook will behave just as badly on Linux, and, with the latter, most casual users will have trouble with attachments. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Outlook comments
I see - you get one final ill-conceived dig in, and _then_ agree the subject should be dropped? Can anyone else agreeing the subject should be dropped please do so silently. thanks Mally - Original Message - From: Alex Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 5:22 AM Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Outlook comments I have been wondering whether the Outlook autorun feature could conveniently be used to assist Windows users who would like to use FlightGear. They sign up for the mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] as usual and their start of subscription mail message has a PIF attachment that autoinstalls FlightGear. Thereafter, whenever we have a version upgrade, the announcement is copied to that mailing list ... together with a PIF autorun attachment that will apply the upgrade without user intervention. Convenient, no ? From: Norman Vine [EMAIL PROTECTED] May we please put this thread to rest and allow FGFS to return to soaring above petty OS bigotry Seconded. FWIW, the discussion is not about OS bigotry. Anybody can run Outlook (with WINE) on Linux and run most Linux mail readers on Windows. With the former, a default Outlook will behave just as badly on Linux, and, with the latter, most casual users will have trouble with attachments. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Outlook comments
Alex Perry writes: I have been wondering whether the Outlook autorun feature could conveniently be used to assist Windows users who would like to use FlightGear. They sign up for the mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] as usual and their start of subscription mail message has a PIF attachment that autoinstalls FlightGear. Thereafter, whenever we have a version upgrade, the announcement is copied to that mailing list ... together with a PIF autorun attachment that will apply the upgrade without user intervention. Convenient, no ? Hehe, Several years ago when the windows email virus/worm stuff started to become popular, I saw a similar proposal (that actually sounded quite plausible) for installing linux on the person's machine via this outlook email hole. Fortunately, it appears that the linux people that are sharp enough to pull this off have more useful/ethical things to do. But I suppose that would be one way to fight the market share wars. :-) Curt. -- Curtis Olson HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Citiescurt 'at' me.umn.edu curt 'at' flightgear.org Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.org ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
