Re: [Flightgear-devel] [IMPORTANT] questionable extension to the property system planned: compound property types

2009-03-21 Thread Tim Moore
Curtis Olson wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Tim Moore timo...@redhat.com mailto:timo...@redhat.com wrote: Gene Buckle wrote: What benefit does the compound property offer? g. More concise syntax for aggregate values like colors, rotations, etc.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [IMPORTANT] questionable extension to the property system planned: compound property types

2009-03-21 Thread Erik Hofman
Tim Moore wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Allright but how would you acces /model/skin/color/red in the new case then? What do you mean by access? In C++ or Nasal within fg, or in the XML parse within another app? Why would you want red without green and blue and maybe alpha? In the color

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [IMPORTANT] questionable extension to the property system planned: compound property types

2009-03-21 Thread Erik Hofman
Tim Moore wrote: property node aggregates and aggregate C++ types is not a real problem coding-wise. I just don't like the current XML syntax. If this is you main motivation I'm just plain against this. But I have the feeling that you're gonna regret this comment. Erik

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [IMPORTANT] questionable extension to the property system planned: compound property types

2009-03-21 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis Olson -- Saturday 21 March 2009: To me the idea of giving nasal efficient access to vec3 and vec4 types for manipulating things like material properties, texture coordinates, lighting, and positions seems like the strongest argument for this proposal. And that's quite a weak reason!

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Nasal tanker.nas, NONE, 1.1

2009-03-21 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* gerard robin -- Thursday 19 March 2009: I can only answer that i never had any problem with the actual AI/MP radar, it is very flexible , since the main required values x-shift, y-shift, in addition to the other useful aircraft data ( range-nm, altitude, heading ) are there. These data

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [IMPORTANT] questionable extension to the property system planned: compound property types

2009-03-21 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Csaba, Csaba Halász schrieb am 21.03.2009 02:48: I also wonder if property change listeners should get an additional argument, giving the index of the changed item. But of course the change would need to be detected first, which basically means we can not directly expose a writable vec3d/4d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFC: vector types in the property system

2009-03-21 Thread LeeE
On Friday 20 March 2009, Tim Moore wrote: RFC: Vector Types in the Property System Proposal: Allow vector types as properties in property list XML files and as properties in the runtime property system. [snip...] Rationale: Without these types, the XML syntax is much more verbose

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [IMPORTANT] questionable extension to the property system planned: compound property types

2009-03-21 Thread Tim Moore
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Tim Moore -- Saturday 21 March 2009: Gene Buckle wrote: What benefit does the compound property offer? More concise syntax for aggregate values like colors, rotations, etc. Doesn't sound like a valid reason to me: SGVec3 vec = n-getVec3Value(/some/vector);

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [IMPORTANT] questionable extension to the property system planned: compound property types

2009-03-21 Thread Tim Moore
Erik Hofman wrote: Tim Moore wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Allright but how would you acces /model/skin/color/red in the new case then? What do you mean by access? In C++ or Nasal within fg, or in the XML parse within another app? Why would you want red without green and blue and maybe alpha?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [IMPORTANT] questionable extension to the property system planned: compound property types

2009-03-21 Thread Tim Moore
Erik Hofman wrote: Tim Moore wrote: property node aggregates and aggregate C++ types is not a real problem coding-wise. I just don't like the current XML syntax. If this is you main motivation I'm just plain against this. But I have the feeling that you're gonna regret this comment.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [IMPORTANT] questionable extension to the property system planned: compound property types

2009-03-21 Thread Tim Moore
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Curtis Olson -- Saturday 21 March 2009: To me the idea of giving nasal efficient access to vec3 and vec4 types for manipulating things like material properties, texture coordinates, lighting, and positions seems like the strongest argument for this proposal. And

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [IMPORTANT] questionable extension to the property system planned: compound property types

2009-03-21 Thread Timothy Moore
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Tim Moore -- Saturday 21 March 2009: Gene Buckle wrote: What benefit does the compound property offer? More concise syntax for aggregate values like colors, rotations, etc. Doesn't sound like a valid reason to me: SGVec3 vec = n-getVec3Value(/some/vector);

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFC: vector types in the property system

2009-03-21 Thread Tim Moore
LeeE wrote: On Friday 20 March 2009, Tim Moore wrote: RFC: Vector Types in the Property System Proposal: Allow vector types as properties in property list XML files and as properties in the runtime property system. [snip...] Rationale: Without these types, the XML syntax is much more

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [IMPORTANT] questionable extension to the property system planned: compound property types

2009-03-21 Thread Curtis Olson
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Tim Moore wrote: Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Tim Moore -- Saturday 21 March 2009: Gene Buckle wrote: What benefit does the compound property offer? More concise syntax for aggregate values like colors, rotations, etc. Doesn't sound like a valid reason

Re: [Flightgear-devel] DEM data

2009-03-21 Thread Geoff McLane
On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 10:17 -0700, cullam Bruce-Lockhart wrote: I just wanted to check on this before I muck it up, now that I finally seem to have terragear compiled. I've got a couple of 1201X1201 grid cells of raster data, covering a total of 0.5 deg X 0.5 deg. The extension on the files is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [IMPORTANT] questionable extension to the property system planned: compound property types

2009-03-21 Thread Tim Moore
Curtis Olson wrote: On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Tim Moore wrote: Melchior FRANZ wrote: Doesn't sound like a valid reason to me: SGVec3 vec = n-getVec3Value(/some/vector); The syntax is actually: Vec3d vec = n-getValueVec3d() vs.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFC: vector types in the property system

2009-03-21 Thread LeeE
On Saturday 21 March 2009, Tim Moore wrote: LeeE wrote: On Friday 20 March 2009, Tim Moore wrote: RFC: Vector Types in the Property System Proposal: Allow vector types as properties in property list XML files and as properties in the runtime property system. [snip...] Rationale:

[Flightgear-devel] Carrier landing and groundcache with JSBSim Aircrafts

2009-03-21 Thread gerard robin
Hello, Mathias With JSBsim aircraft i get now some strange behaviour regarding the groundcache on a moving Carrier. We can start from catapult on carrier, and the Aircraft is sitting correctly in place on the Ship , it follows correctly the speed of the carrier. = No problem :) After