Re: [Flightgear-devel] apt.dat update (lowercase names etc.)

2011-12-09 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
Wouldn't it be useful to somehow flag the airport as closed/restricted/whatever in the data, so that nav displays and gps/fms units could show a different airfield symbol if desired for closed airports? Does the data format support this? FG could say (closed) in the end also based on the flag, if

Re: [Flightgear-devel] apt.dat update (lowercase names etc.)

2011-12-09 Thread Ron Jensen
On Friday 09 December 2011 16:49:14 HB-GRAL wrote: > Am 08.12.11 13:36, schrieb HB-GRAL: > > Hi all > > Hi again > > About marking "closed" airports in apt.dat: > > - marking the name with "[X] " might be closer to charts I guess and > most airports marked as closed in apt.dat comes with the x > -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] apt.dat update (lowercase names etc.)

2011-12-09 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 08.12.11 13:36, schrieb HB-GRAL: Hi all Hi again About marking "closed" airports in apt.dat: - marking the name with "[X] " might be closer to charts I guess and most airports marked as closed in apt.dat comes with the x - removing x and marking with "(closed)" at end of name is possible

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stereo sound files and affected aircraft

2011-12-09 Thread Roland Häder
On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 23:45 +0100, ThorstenB wrote: > Find the script attached. The script does both - reports stereo files > and all duplicates. You need to run it in the directory you want to search. > Requires python. Is Linux only. Don't ask for documentation. Don't use > the bug tracker if i

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stereo sound files and affected aircraft

2011-12-09 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > There already is, fgdata/Sounds > If more than 4 aircraft use the same file I'd say put them there > instead. Coordinating aircraft development errm, teaching pigs how to fly !? ;-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its frien

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stereo sound files and affected aircraft

2011-12-09 Thread ThorstenB
Am 09.12.2011 22:53, schrieb Roland Häder: On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 18:29 +0100, ThorstenB wrote: Here's a full list of sound duplicates: http://pastebin.com/DvCT6AT9 Can you please release this file? Or is it possible to sent it to me directly? I would like to cleanup some of my archives. Find

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stereo sound files and affected aircraft

2011-12-09 Thread Roland Häder
On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 18:29 +0100, ThorstenB wrote: > Here's a full list of sound duplicates: > http://pastebin.com/DvCT6AT9 Can you please release this file? Or is it possible to sent it to me directly? I would like to cleanup some of my archives. > cheers, > Thorsten Regards, Roland signatur

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stereo sound files and affected aircraft

2011-12-09 Thread ThorstenB
Am 09.12.2011 20:16, schrieb TDO Brandano: > rain_canopy.wav seems, by its name, to be one example of a sound sample > that won't benefit from the 3D sound engine as much as just being played > back as a static, stereo sample. That particular file has always been a mono file though - all 27 copies

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stereo sound files and affected aircraft

2011-12-09 Thread TDO Brandano
rain_canopy.wav seems, by its name, to be one example of a sound sample that won't benefit from the 3D sound engine as much as just being played back as a static, stereo sample. > From: e...@ehofman.com > To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 18:40:18 +0100 > Subjec

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stereo sound files and affected aircraft

2011-12-09 Thread Erik Hofman
On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 18:29 +0100, ThorstenB wrote: > Yes, I'll do that. I added a MD5 checker to my script - interesting to > see how many copies we already have. Considering the size of many sound > files, this is also an issue which blows up our repository. Yes, I know > it's handy to have al

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stereo sound files and affected aircraft

2011-12-09 Thread ThorstenB
Am 09.12.2011 15:48, schrieb Martin Spott: > Maybe run an 'md5sum' over the files to detect identical ones, convert > just a single one where duplicates are and copy that one over, in order > to preserve the logical state of a file just being copied from a > different aircraft. Yes, I'll do that.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stereo sound files and affected aircraft

2011-12-09 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Thorsten, ThorstenB wrote: > [...] We're going to branch off the 2.6 > release (fg/sg/fgdata) on January 17th. We could convert any remaining > stereo sound files shortly before that, to make sure that FG2.6 doesn't > mean a regression for many aircraft. I'm happy to run a batch job for >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stereo sound files and affected aircraft

2011-12-09 Thread Erik Hofman
On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 15:19 +0100, ThorstenB wrote: > I'd propose that aircraft maintainers have time to fix the stereo files > themselves, say until early January. We're going to branch off the 2.6 > release (fg/sg/fgdata) on January 17th. We could convert any remaining > stereo sound files sho

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stereo sound files and affected aircraft

2011-12-09 Thread ThorstenB
Am 09.12.2011 13:43, schrieb Erik Hofman: > On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 12:21 +, TDO Brandano wrote: >> I think the most compatible solution would be to either downmix them >> to mono, or convert them to two mono samples to be played concurrently >> but offset from their original position by an amoun

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stereo sound files and affected aircraft

2011-12-09 Thread syd adams
I'd suggest converting the sound files the s76c is fixed here , just not commited yet due to some other half finished changes. Most files seem to just get copied from aircraft to aircraft , so the problem will probably continue to grow.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stereo sound files and affected aircraft

2011-12-09 Thread Erik Hofman
On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 12:21 +, TDO Brandano wrote: > I think the most compatible solution would be to either downmix them > to mono, or convert them to two mono samples to be played concurrently > but offset from their original position by an amount directly > proportional to the distance from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stereo sound files and affected aircraft

2011-12-09 Thread TDO Brandano
I think the most compatible solution would be to either downmix them to mono, or convert them to two mono samples to be played concurrently but offset from their original position by an amount directly proportional to the distance from the cockpit. A hack, of course, but would preserve a good p

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stereo sound files and affected aircraft

2011-12-09 Thread Durk Talsma
On 09 Dec 2011, at 13:00, ThorstenB wrote: > Hi, > > > Another option might be to change the sound code again, so that stereo > files aren't rejected, and only a warning is produced. But that would > still result in loads of user bug reports, and it wouldn't fix the > actual issue. > Would

[Flightgear-devel] Stereo sound files and affected aircraft

2011-12-09 Thread ThorstenB
Hi, latest fgfs rejects loading stereo sound files. I guess it's because stereo sounds don't really work with a 3D sound engine. Stereo files still somehow worked with older fgfs versions, at least they produced something audible, so few authors had noticed the issue so far, and hence we now h