Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building multiple fgfs binaries from one source tree

2007-07-24 Thread Tim Moore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hans Ulrich Niedermann wrote: > I need to revise > > Hans Ulrich Niedermann wrote: > >> However, src/GUI/libGUI.a is linked against plib - and plib choses at >> compile time which backend it will use. FG CVS does that via AC_DEFINEs >> in configure.a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building multiple fgfs binaries from one source tree

2007-07-24 Thread Hans Ulrich Niedermann
I need to revise Hans Ulrich Niedermann wrote: > However, src/GUI/libGUI.a is linked against plib - and plib choses at > compile time which backend it will use. FG CVS does that via AC_DEFINEs > in configure.ac (PU_USE_GLUT, PU_USE_SDL, PU_USE_NATIVE), i.e. via > #defines in config.h. > > For com

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building multiple fgfs binaries from one source tree

2007-07-24 Thread Hans Ulrich Niedermann
Hans Ulrich Niedermann wrote: > My proposal is NOT to switch FG to use libtool. > > My proposal is to allow building statically linked executables as FG is > doing not, but build up three different executables in the same one > build tree. Uhm, that did not quite come out right. Corrected versio

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building multiple fgfs binaries from one source tree

2007-07-24 Thread Harald JOHNSEN
Stefan Seifert wrote: >AnMaster wrote: > > >>We shouldn't: fg/SDL breaks on Swedish keyboards at least. For example "]" is >>on AltGr-9, that works with both GLUT and FreeGLUT but not with SDL. >> >> > >Interesting: I've been using fg/SDL for at least a year now and am using >a German keyboa

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building multiple fgfs binaries from one source tree

2007-07-24 Thread Stefan Seifert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 AnMaster wrote: > Melchior FRANZ wrote: >> [...] In the PLIB branch >> we should rather make SDL default, as freeglut is notoriously broken >> ( keys; reportedly slower FPS(?)). And in the OSG branch [...] > > We shouldn't: fg/SDL breaks on Swedish ke

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building multiple fgfs binaries from one source tree

2007-07-24 Thread Hans Ulrich Niedermann
Curtis Olson wrote: > I have no problem with people using libtool for genuine shared library > packages; it can make a lot of sense there. But for FlightGear/SimGear we > found that it ended up causing more headaches than it cured. My proposal is NOT to switch FG to use libtool. My proposal is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building multiple fgfs binaries from one source tree

2007-07-24 Thread Hans Ulrich Niedermann
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Hans Fugal -- Tuesday 24 July 2007: >> He didn't have an argument. He had a solution > > Yeah, but what annoys me is that it's a solution that is in fact about > turning fgfs into shared libs, but disguised as a solution for (allegedly) > "responsible" developers. I do

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building multiple fgfs binaries from one source tree

2007-07-24 Thread Hans Ulrich Niedermann
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > If your argument would have been that we want shared libs (which we > clearly didn't want in the past), then there'd be something to discuss. I know that shared libs are not wanted here, so I was not going to propose them. > But if it's only about developers wasting less

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building multiple fgfs binaries from one source tree

2007-07-24 Thread Curtis Olson
On 7/24/07, Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... it's a solution that is in fact about turning fgfs into shared libs ... For whatever it's worth, we went down the "libtool" path for a while in FlightGear and decided at the time that the headaches a weirdness of libtool simply wasn't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building multiple fgfs binaries from one source tree

2007-07-24 Thread Hans Fugal
On 7/24/07, Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Hans Fugal -- Tuesday 24 July 2007: > > He didn't have an argument. He had a solution > > Yeah, but what annoys me is that it's a solution that is in fact about > turning fgfs into shared libs, but disguised as a solution for (allegedly) > "

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building multiple fgfs binaries from one source tree

2007-07-24 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Hans Fugal -- Tuesday 24 July 2007: > He didn't have an argument. He had a solution Yeah, but what annoys me is that it's a solution that is in fact about turning fgfs into shared libs, but disguised as a solution for (allegedly) "responsible" developers. The former is a rather big change, the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building multiple fgfs binaries from one source tree

2007-07-24 Thread Hans Fugal
On 7/24/07, Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Hans Ulrich Niedermann -- Sunday 22 July 2007: > > As the whole thing is still in development, it makes sense for > > developers to have more than just one of the three, so that one can > > compare their behaviours. > > And how many develope

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building multiple fgfs binaries from one source tree

2007-07-24 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* AnMaster -- Tuesday 24 July 2007: > Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > [...] In the PLIB branch > > we should rather make SDL default, as freeglut is notoriously broken > > ( keys; reportedly slower FPS(?)). And in the OSG branch [...] > > We shouldn't: fg/SDL breaks on Swedish keyboards at least. You p

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building multiple fgfs binaries from one source tree

2007-07-24 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Melchior FRANZ wrote: > [...] In the PLIB branch > we should rather make SDL default, as freeglut is notoriously broken > ( keys; reportedly slower FPS(?)). And in the OSG branch [...] We shouldn't: fg/SDL breaks on Swedish keyboards at least. For e

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building multiple fgfs binaries from one source tree

2007-07-24 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Hans Ulrich Niedermann -- Sunday 22 July 2007: > As the whole thing is still in development, it makes sense for > developers to have more than just one of the three, so that one can > compare their behaviours. And how many developers actually do it? My guess: one. That would be you. But you have

[Flightgear-devel] Building multiple fgfs binaries from one source tree

2007-07-22 Thread Hans Ulrich Niedermann
FG/OSG currently offers to build the "fgfs" binary as one of three different versions: a) Using glut b) Using SDL c) Using osgViewer As the whole thing is still in development, it makes sense for developers to have more than just one of the three, so that one can compare their behaviours.