Re: [Flightgear-devel] Logos and licensing

2011-02-26 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis Olson wrote: No one wants to remove existing content from the FlightGear project, even though some of that same content would not be allowed to be submitted by some authors as it stand right now. Because it was submitted by other authors or was submitted in the past we are ok with it.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Logos and licensing

2011-02-26 Thread J. Holden
Jack: I don't have commit power, but I strongly recommend you include text along with the model which says Red Bull does not endorse your model or FlightGear. I'd also write why you think it's okay to use the trademark in this instance, which is to accurately reflect a real-life livery of a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Logos and licensing

2011-02-26 Thread Peter Brown
On Feb 26, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Gene Buckle wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011, Gary Neely wrote: There's a saying in English about bearding the lion in his den. It's probably better to stay beneath the lion's radar. Especially considering the rather top-heavy population of fuzzy bunnies we have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Logos and licensing

2011-02-26 Thread Jon S. Berndt
From: Curtis Olson Hi Jon, I apologize for being persnickety here, but I am searching for clarity and consistency on this issue. Has the JSBSim project asked permission from all the aircraft manufacturers that you create and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Logos and licensing

2011-02-26 Thread syd adams
Just a thought , but maybe asking nicely rather than demands and threats might work better ;) On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Jack Mermod jackmer...@gmail.com wrote: I'm planning on contacting Red Bull today. If I get the green light, I better see my livery in the database lickity split!

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Logos and licensing

2011-02-26 Thread Chris O'Neill
I'm no lawyer, and I'm certainly not up on the law around the world, but there's a concept in North American common law that one must take reasonable and prudent steps to avoid liability. With this concept in mind, I respectfully ask whether it is reasonable and prudent to explicitly take the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Logos and licensing

2011-02-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:50:25 +0100, Oliver wrote in message 20110218125025.291...@gmx.net: Stuart wrote: snip I agree with Jon on this - ideally we should be pro-active about asking for permission, even if we don't like the answer. Very good points mentioned. Especially the point

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Logos and licensing

2011-02-18 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:43 AM, Jon S. Berndt wrote: If in doubt – in fact, even if not in doubt – it’s good to ask. Here’s an actual data point. snip I agree with Jon on this - ideally we should be pro-active about asking for permission, even if we don't like the answer. We could send out

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Logos and licensing

2011-02-18 Thread Jon S. Berndt
From: Stuart Buchanan [mailto:*.*.*] I agree with Jon on this - ideally we should be pro-active about asking for permission, even if we don't like the answer. ... Jon - could you post the disclaimer text you eventually used? -Stuart With JSBSim, our situation is a little different,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Logos and licensing

2011-02-18 Thread Oliver Fels
Stuart wrote: snip I agree with Jon on this - ideally we should be pro-active about asking for permission, even if we don't like the answer. Very good points mentioned. Especially the point that this will increase FGs appearance on some radars. However lots of people are nowadays using

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Logos and licensing

2011-02-18 Thread Gene Buckle
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011, Stuart Buchanan wrote: I agree with Jon on this - ideally we should be pro-active about asking for permission, even if we don't like the answer. We could send out a series of emails to all the trademark holders we can identify, starting with the airlines as the most

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Logos and licensing

2011-02-17 Thread Chris Wilkinson
: [Flightgear-devel] Logos and licensing Chris’ point is well-taken.   If in doubt – in fact, even if not in doubt – it’s good to ask.   Here’s an actual data point.   There was an “event’ a few years ago that lead me to inquire with Boeing about the use of their company name in identifying certain

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