Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nav-cache

2012-10-04 Thread James Turner
On 4 Oct 2012, at 07:27, Renk Thorsten wrote: > By printing a message like 'Building database during first startup' on the > screen? That's already done. > By including the binary nav data with the release? This is possible but there's something weird going on with some people's rebuilds. T

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nav-cache

2012-10-03 Thread Renk Thorsten
> I wonder how we deal with this with the next release- I'm sure a whole > lot more users will complain about the "stuck" while launching FGFS. By printing a message like 'Building database during first startup' on the screen? By including the binary nav data with the release? Doesn't look like

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nav-cache

2012-10-03 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi Fred, > I know some people erase the content of the folder having autosave.xml. > This folder is now used to host a navigation data cache. The first time, > a SQL database is built to speedup future start. If this cache is erased > every time, it defeats the purpose of the cache and make the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nav-cache

2012-10-03 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Hi Heiko, > De: "Heiko Schulz" > > any other comments on my problem? > > After a while it loaded now the nav datas, but whenever I start FGFS > again, it takes the same time again. > > Not sure if this behavior is intended... I know some people erase the content of the folder having autosave.xm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nav-cache

2012-10-03 Thread Heiko Schulz
> On 10/03/2012 07:30 PM, Heiko Schulz wrote: >> But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html >Gives me a 404 error. me too ;-) Changed the signature any other comments on my problem? After a while it loaded now the nav datas, but whenever I start FGFS again, it takes the same time aga

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nav-cache

2012-10-03 Thread Roland Haeder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/03/2012 07:30 PM, Heiko Schulz wrote: > But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html Gives me a 404 error. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nav-cache

2012-10-03 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hello, I thought today it would be nice again to have a flight in FGFS, since I found some spare time. Updated FGData, download the latest Jenkins build #726 for win32 and launched it. Since a whole while now, a bit more than 30min, it is stuck at "Loading navigation datas". And I'm still wait

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nav-cache

2012-09-20 Thread James Turner
Yes, the map performance is 'different'. However I'm about to port the map to use the canvas, so please forgive the current performance issues for a little while. James On 20 Sep 2012, at 16:22, syd adams wrote: > would any of these changes have affected the Equipment/map performance > ? I g

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nav-cache

2012-09-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Syd wrote: > -Original Message- > From: syd adams [mailto:adams@gmail.com] > Sent: 20 September 2012 16:22 > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nav-cache > > would any of these changes have affected the Equipment/map performan

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nav-cache

2012-09-20 Thread syd adams
would any of these changes have affected the Equipment/map performance ? I get a lot of disc activity now while panning the map ... and it takes 10 -15 seconds now before it refreshes , and thats with every mouse drag.This only used to happen when zooming out , and the refresh time was much shorter

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nav-cache

2012-09-20 Thread James Turner
On 19 Sep 2012, at 19:18, Martin Spott wrote: > Yes, I've seen matches of the octree_node's with data from navaids for > example, but as far as I remember there's no logical link, just a > geographical. Right ? Depends what you mean - I'm parsing the name of the marker beacon / ILS to find the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nav-cache

2012-09-19 Thread Martin Spott
James Turner wrote: > On 19 Sep 2012, at 17:47, Martin Spott wrote: >> There's one item looking a little bit strange to me: Apparently the >> "positioned" table has a numeric identifier "airport" to refer runways >> and taxiways to their respective airport. This seems to be a simple >> sequence -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nav-cache

2012-09-19 Thread James Turner
On 19 Sep 2012, at 17:47, Martin Spott wrote: > Hi James, nice feature - I like storing this sort of stuff in > structured databases :-) > > There's one item looking a little bit strange to me: Apparently the > "positioned" table has a numeric identifier "airport" to refer runways > and taxiway

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nav-cache

2012-09-19 Thread Martin Spott
Hi James, nice feature - I like storing this sort of stuff in structured databases :-) There's one item looking a little bit strange to me: Apparently the "positioned" table has a numeric identifier "airport" to refer runways and taxiways to their respective airport. This seems to be a simple seq

[Flightgear-devel] Nav-cache

2012-09-19 Thread James Turner
I've just pushed a large change to next, which adds a binary cache of most of the navigation data. The cache is stored in FG_HOME/navdata.cache, and rebuilt if the timestamps on any of the data files change (apt.dat, nav.data, fix.dat and so on). When the cache needs to be rebuilt, startup will