Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-15 Thread Geoff McLane
Hi Alisdair, >> Doesn't work ... --with-simgear=RELATIVE_PATH ... >> Is this normal? Do not (yet) know or understand enough about 'automake' to know if it is 'normal' to fail with a relative path... But when you think about it '../simgear-cs' would NOT be correct when compiling in say the 'src'

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-15 Thread Alasdair Campbell
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 18:35 +0100, Geoff McLane wrote: > Hi Alasdair, > > I just noted the comment in your terra_compile.sh script - > # ??why does configure not pick up the correct includes if I specify > --with-simgear=$BUILDDIR/simgear-cs > > As advised in my post yesterday (Feb 12), the confi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-13 Thread Martin Spott
Geoff McLane wrote: > And have now more or less answered my own question - Q: difference > between cvs and git simgear? - A: LOTS ;=)) I'm glad you managed to get there ;-) Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-13 Thread Geoff McLane
Hi Alasdair, I just noted the comment in your terra_compile.sh script - # ??why does configure not pick up the correct includes if I specify --with-simgear=$BUILDDIR/simgear-cs As advised in my post yesterday (Feb 12), the configure.ac is clobbering the EXTRA_DIRS created by the --with-simgear=PA

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-12 Thread Harry Campigli
The issue with git clone terragear-cs but ok with simgear-cs still exists on this debian machine but the suse machine is fine. Strange but it seems is must be this machine as other folks seem ok as is mys suse 10..3 machine. Otherwise the script seems ok here. The problem now is the Terragear-cs

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:43:51 +0100, Csaba wrote in message : > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > >> on this frequency, I would be grateful if someone with a few > >> minutes to spare could check out my script. > > > > ..url? > > Attached In his previous mail. ..me, I p

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-11 Thread Csaba Halász
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > >> on this frequency, I would be grateful if someone with a few minutes >> to spare could check out my script. > > ..url? Attached In his previous mail. -- Csaba/Jester --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:33:58 +, Alasdair wrote in message <1234373638.2955.14.ca...@dominatrix.riverview>: > On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 00:09 +0800, Harry Campigli wrote: > > Hmm > > > > It turns out changing the Debian git version made no difference, > > worked of GS but not TG. But I found a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-11 Thread Alasdair Campbell
On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 19:40 +0100, Csaba Halász wrote: > Oh it will abort by itself - who has sudo? :) > Using git clone instead of git-clone should be more portable. > Adding some || (echo "something failed"; exit) is also useful, > especially after configure. > I don't have OSG and PLIB installe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-11 Thread Csaba Halász
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Alasdair Campbell wrote: > > If there is anyone listening on this > frequency, I would be grateful if someone with a few minutes to spare > could check out my script. Just abort when it comes to your password on > "sudo make install" Oh it will abort by itself - w

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-11 Thread Csaba Halász
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Alasdair Campbell wrote: > > If there is anyone listening on this > frequency, I would be grateful if someone with a few minutes to spare > could check out my script. Just abort when it comes to your password on > "sudo make install" Oh it will abort by itself - w

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-11 Thread Martin Spott
Alasdair Campbell wrote: > I find it hard to understand why you can git-clone simgear-cs but not > terragear-cs from the same location. Equally hard to understand why this > should be distribution dependant. I agree. We had a little hiccup with the GIT service today - probably a simple re-try co

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-11 Thread Alasdair Campbell
On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 00:09 +0800, Harry Campigli wrote: > Hmm > > It turns out changing the Debian git version made no difference, > worked of GS but not TG. But I found a git rpm to suit the SUSE 10.3 > machine that worked. > > Its been compiling away for a while. see whats there in the morni

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-11 Thread Harry Campigli
Hmm It turns out changing the Debian git version made no difference, worked of GS but not TG. But I found a git rpm to suit the SUSE 10.3 machine that worked. Its been compiling away for a while. see whats there in the morning. Thanks again Alasdair. reg Harry On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 7:40

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-11 Thread Alasdair Campbell
On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 18:05 +0800, Harry Campigli wrote: > > Ok thanks for that Alasdair, > > Is there some thing a miss with the Terragear archive today, The git > clone command from the script works ok on the Simgear-cs but not > Terragear-cs. > > I could be wrong but I cant see it being loca

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-11 Thread Harry Campigli
Ok thanks for that Alasdair, Is there some thing a miss with the Terragear archive today, The git clone command from the script works ok on the Simgear-cs but not Terragear-cs. I could be wrong but I cant see it being local here if one works and the other does not. Is it just me? git clone http

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-10 Thread Alasdair Campbell
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 23:23 +0800, Harry Campigli wrote: > > Are you running Terragear on your Debian machine? > Hiya Harry, I've been running Debian Sid (unstable) for several years now, and I find it great fun, especially without a hard hat. Every day, first thing, I run Synaptic and get all m

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-10 Thread Csaba Halász
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:04 PM, LeeE wrote: > > However, trying to keep up with FG cvs did become too > problematic for me in the end and I will most likely just stick to > the rather old version that gets released with Lenny for the > immediate future. It's not an ideal solution but because FG

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-10 Thread LeeE
Hello Harry, I've never tried installing terragear on any of my systems so I've no idea if it's easy to do or what problems you'll have to work around. However, trying to keep up with FG cvs did become too problematic for me in the end and I will most likely just stick to the rather old versi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-10 Thread Jon Stockill
Martin Spott wrote: > Harry Campigli wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Martin Spott wrote: > >>> The machine we're using for the World Scenery builds runs OpenSUSE 10.2 >>> - just by 'accident', as the OS was already installed by the time when >>> we were given access to it. As far as I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-10 Thread Jon Stockill
Martin Spott wrote: > Harry Campigli wrote: > >> So till now for Terragear the only confirmed starter mentioned is Slackware >> 11.0,12.0 and 12.1 > > The machine we're using for the World Scenery builds runs OpenSUSE 10.2 > - just by 'accident', as the OS was already installed by the time when

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-10 Thread Martin Spott
Harry Campigli wrote: > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Martin Spott wrote: >> The machine we're using for the World Scenery builds runs OpenSUSE 10.2 >> - just by 'accident', as the OS was already installed by the time when >> we were given access to it. As far as I remember quite a lot of tes

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-10 Thread Harry Campigli
Thanks Martin, That sits very nicely with my existing SUSE 10.3 set up then. Herry On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Martin Spott wrote: > Harry Campigli wrote: > > > So till now for Terragear the only confirmed starter mentioned is > Slackware > > 11.0,12.0 and 12.1 > > The machine we're usi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-10 Thread Harry Campigli
Thanks for the reply Lee, Your comments all noted, especially with respect to stability, as opposed to bleeding edge. Thats fine with me as I have always been behind a release with Suse from 6 to 10 running machines as routers and servers over the last 10 years. Those machines only ever rebooted

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-10 Thread Martin Spott
Harry Campigli wrote: > So till now for Terragear the only confirmed starter mentioned is Slackware > 11.0,12.0 and 12.1 The machine we're using for the World Scenery builds runs OpenSUSE 10.2 - just by 'accident', as the OS was already installed by the time when we were given access to it. As f

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-10 Thread Harry Campigli
Many thanks Melchior,Gerard,Martin and Jon, Please don't forget I am looking for the Terragear OS option that most developers are using. For the FG building side of things I see no reason to change the 4 FG sim machines away from SUSE 10.3 in the foreseeable future, Also after so many years with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-10 Thread LeeE
Hello Harry, I've been a long-time user of Debian, in fact, it's the only distribution I've really used, so while I'm not qualified to comment on other distros I think I've learned some of the pros & cons of using Debian. I would say that Debian's greatest plus feature is the stability and co

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-10 Thread Jon Stockill
Harry Campigli wrote: > > > I have used SUSE for years, currently using 10.3. but feel it has "gone > off" since version 9. However I have always managed to build FG from > source on it with a bit off mucking around but never Terragear. > > For along time I have wondered about Debian. I get th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-10 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Harry Campigli -- Tuesday 10 February 2009: > These days it seems you need to buy a commercial version > for the full house. I can't confirm that. Maybe you mix up Novell/SuSE and OpenSuSE? > With 10.1 I did a bit of mucking about and got FG built ok, > Same with 10.3. I've always had to do

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-10 Thread Harry Campigli
Hi Melchior, No its not political, and I am just looking for the best option for the future. I moved over to SUSE 6 early 90's from Redhat because Yast was really good and everything worked from the cds. Also the CDs were complete. These days it seems you need to buy a commercial version for the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-10 Thread gerard robin
On mardi 10 février 2009, Harry Campigli wrote: > I have used SUSE for years, currently using 10.3. but feel it has "gone > off" since version 9. However I have always managed to build FG from source > on it with a bit off mucking around but never Terragear. > > For along time I have wondered about

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-10 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Harry, I understand your motivation to research people's preferences about Linux distributions. Nevertheless, as the topic always carries a certain 'religious' touch, you'll certainly face difficult times telling which of the responses you might get is really to be taken serious ;-) In general

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-10 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Harry Campigli -- Tuesday 10 February 2009: > I have used SUSE for years, currently using 10.3. but feel it > has "gone off" since version 9. Can you be more specific? Or is this just "political feeling"? > Everything from the install worked of the mark. Unlike SUSE. What was the problem? I

[Flightgear-devel] Preferred development os

2009-02-10 Thread Harry Campigli
I have used SUSE for years, currently using 10.3. but feel it has "gone off" since version 9. However I have always managed to build FG from source on it with a bit off mucking around but never Terragear. For along time I have wondered about Debian. I get the impression a lot of FG developers use