On Fri, 26 Mar 2010, Roland Haeder wrote:
But like Curt stated before: This has a very big downside, like every
medal has (remember, medals have two sides...) a backside. :( And that
one is also very clear: Do we, no better does Curt want to put his
project into the hand of Google who offers
On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 20:55 +0100, HB-GRAL wrote:
Geoff McLane schrieb:
But his good work _IS_ being used, extensively -
1 left TOC
2 CSS design
3 XHTML 1.0
I have added a little more today...
http://geoffair.net/fg/site
including a bottom TOC - presently not quite the
same
Geoff McLane wrote:
He added some new things, which is great, like the mp server
status, but assume this depends on the python to get information,
so this may not be portable, but would certainly like to
incorporate this in my example also, if possible... How
to do it is the question?
A
Geoff McLane wrote:
So again, we should consider who OWNS the site, and fully
RESPECT what he might want, [...]
I firmly object: The way how the web site is being managed is very
contradictory to the nature of the entire project.
I'm not advertizing anarchy here. As with every part of the
Hi,
I like to add that the Search button is linking to a page which uses
the personalized Google search which is, of course, closed-source. If
you like, you can replace that with YaCy [1] which allows you to setup
an independent search engine which will only crawl your pages.
You can also choose
Martin Spott wrote:
Geoff McLane wrote:
So again, we should consider who OWNS the site, and fully
RESPECT what he might want, [...]
I firmly object: The way how the web site is being managed is very
contradictory to the nature of the entire project.
I'm not advertizing anarchy
Hello all,
the problem on those CMS systems (python-written and PHP-written
likewise) is that they sometimes have security holes where a cracker can
more or less easily own www.flightgear.org and put his Owned by
some-fool-cracker message in there.
I think, this is why someone suggested that
Na, I didn't solve [1]. Sorry for double email. :(
[1]: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%
2Fwww.flightgear.orgcharset=%28detect+automatically%
29doctype=Inlinegroup=0
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Roland Haeder wrote:
Hello all,
the problem on those CMS systems (python-written and PHP-written
likewise) is that they sometimes have security holes where a cracker can
more or less easily own www.flightgear.org and put his Owned by
some-fool-cracker message in there.
Please clarify:
Hello Pete,
Please clarify:
Okay, I give it a try. :-)
What you are suggesting is that
* php and python are a cms
I know they are never and should also never used as
CMS (Content-Management-System). Maybe it was a bit unclean here, I
mean real CMS' like Drupal,WordPress (can be used as CMS,
[...] hopefully all got stopped by my (already released and) patched security
software Cracker Tracker Standalone.
Oh, shame on me. That software is from www.cback.de, I have enhanced it
with logging into a MySQL database for analysis purposes. Just to make
this clear. :)
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Roland Haeder wrote:
They (Drupal/WordPress are good examples) really have a lot holes, just
checkout www.securityfocus.com and they brothers (not the whistle-blower
websites).
Were agreeing that some applications are badly coded.
Thats why I prefer to steer clear of apps; unless their
or not.
--- On Mon, 3/22/10, Geoff McLane ubu...@geoffair.info wrote:
From: Geoff McLane ubu...@geoffair.info
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Web Site
To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 8:41 PM
Hi Curt,
What about this example?
1
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 07:08:47 Michael Sgier wrote:
Yea not bad but still a little low-tech. What about such:
http://www.activision.com/index.html#home|de_DE
Click on images either for links for screenshots. Interesting also for the
future when we hopefully have addons. So you could
On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 09:17 +0100, Erik Hofman wrote:
Michael Sgier wrote:
Yea not bad but still a little low-tech. What about such:
http://www.activision.com/index.html#home|de_DE
I hate websites that consists only of flash content.
In fact I've added a flash blocker because of that.
I have to support Ron and others on this-- I much prefer usability and
speed of access over visual gimmicks, especially Flash-based content
navigation.
-Gary aka Buckaroo
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Ron Jensen w...@jentronics.com wrote:
On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 09:17 +0100, Erik Hofman
: [Flightgear-devel] Web Site
I have to support Ron and others on this-- I much prefer usability and
speed of access over visual gimmicks, especially Flash-based content
navigation.
-Gary aka Buckaroo
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Ron Jensen w...@jentronics.com wrote:
On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 09:17
Ron Jensen wrote:
On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 09:17 +0100, Erik Hofman wrote:
Michael Sgier wrote:
Yea not bad but still a little low-tech. What about such:
http://www.activision.com/index.html#home|de_DE
I hate websites that consists only of flash content.
In fact I've added a flash blocker
willie schrieb:
+1 to that, brother
There are many excellent sites out there using simple html and
intelligent CSS. I don't see why we can't be one of them. Keep it simple
and fast.
1+ to the whole usability and design consortium here.
When you read the whole thread you see that this is
On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 19:20 +0100, HB-GRAL wrote:
willie schrieb:
+1 to that, brother
There are many excellent sites out there using simple html and
intelligent CSS. I don't see why we can't be one of them. Keep it simple
and fast.
1+ to the whole usability and design consortium
There does not seem any need to go totally Googly
when all that Pete has done can be done to the
current site, in an incremental page-by-page way...
Am I missing something here?
Can I clear something up here once and for all re the fg-www.appspot.com
site
1) The site is presently
Geoff McLane schrieb:
But his good work _IS_ being used, extensively -
1 left TOC
2 CSS design
3 XHTML 1.0
I have added a little more today...
http://geoffair.net/fg/site
including a bottom TOC - presently not quite the
same as the left, but it will be...
Geoff,
I am actually not
But his good work _IS_ being used, extensively -
1 left TOC
2 CSS design
3 XHTML 1.0
Can I suggest a way forward as we are probably replicating work...
1) create a branch of the cvs website in git. (maybe on gitorious/fg)
2) give commit rights to whoever gonna contribute
3) design the
Hi Curt,
What about this example?
1. has left constant TOC,
2. uses CSS for positioning,
3. is XHTML 1.0 compliant, and probably 1.1,
4. has same content as current, ads and all ;=))
http://geoffair.net/fg/site/
Near the bottom of the TOC there is a 'Development' page
'REAME.site' which
Hi Pete,
For what it's worth, the forum is by far the biggest bandwidth consumer
right now based on the webalizer stats.
Best regards,
Curt.
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Pete Morgan wrote:
Martin Spott wrote:
Pete Morgan wrote:
A Major issues is that GAE does not support binary
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:56 AM, Pete Morgan ac...@daffodil.uk.com wrote:
- Do we want to lock ourselves into google?
These issues worry me also, and indeed pointing www.flightgear.org to
fg-www.appspot.com is likely to have other problems (major 404's will
need to be handled)
We should be
Alex Perry wrote:
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:56 AM, Pete Morgan ac...@daffodil.uk.com wrote:
- Do we want to lock ourselves into google?
These issues worry me also, and indeed pointing www.flightgear.org to
fg-www.appspot.com is likely to have other problems (major 404's will
need
Martin Spott wrote:
Pete Morgan wrote:
A Major issues is that GAE does not support binary files very well, eg
gallery, so I'm not sure how this would work. One possibility would be
to rename the current machine as www2. or stash. and using it as the
binary storage.
To my
Pete Morgan wrote:
A Major issues is that GAE does not support binary files very well, eg
gallery, so I'm not sure how this would work. One possibility would be
to rename the current machine as www2. or stash. and using it as the
binary storage.
To my understanding, one of the issues with
Martin Spott wrote:
Pete Morgan wrote:
A Major issues is that GAE does not support binary files very well, eg
gallery, so I'm not sure how this would work. One possibility would be
to rename the current machine as www2. or stash. and using it as the
binary storage.
To my
Curtis Olson wrote:
Hi Pete,
Definitely nice work on the page layout. It's my job to play devil's
advocate so to speak, so don't take this as criticism, but instead I'm
just trying to think through all the important issues beyond hey that
looks really nice.
I'm not very familiar with
Heiko Schulz wrote:
I heard Google will rename our planet soon in GoogleEarth;-)
I admit to Curt in a lot of points here. The only advantage is there is no
advertisement, which makes the current page look really bad.
Adverts can be dropped in where required. However an observation
Pete Morgan schrieb:
Not at all. I am not a designer, merely a developer. In fact a designer
would be really helpful.. anyone ? Gijs ?
I am working as graphic and web designer for many years. As I saw your
new site my first impression was there is already a designer at work.
But when you
Curtis Olson wrote:
Hi Pete,
Another option (perhaps my favorite at the moment) would be to pull in
CSS and design elements from your google app engine example and roll
them into the current flightgear web page design. We may need to give
up on some of the app elements or rewrite them in
Pete Morgan wrote
Have developed the idea a bit further.
http://fg-www.appspot.com/
idea is to have a dedicated aircraft and Online site also
is this worth pursuing ? Its quite neat and developer friendly on the
Google App Engine.
pete
Curtis Olson wrote:
On Fri, Feb 12,
I like it too ! Very nice and fresh work !
On 08/03/2010 06:22, Pete Morgan wrote:
Have developed the idea a bit further.
http://fg-www.appspot.com/
idea is to have a dedicated aircraft and Online site also
is this worth pursuing ? Its quite neat and developer friendly on the
Google
Hi,
On the other hand we should consider and discuss some of
the possible down sides to google apps engine.
- Everything we develop for this site and all
the database data is in a format that depends on
google's proprietary services.
- We would be forced to host the site on
google's
Curtis Olson wrote:
Definitely nice work on the page layout. It's my job to play devil's
advocate so to speak, [...]
My concerns are of similar nature, and locking the project into
Google's infrastructure without any option to pull out doesn't sound
intriguingly. But since I knew that you'd
Certainly looks good, more modern but still a few years behind the times
maybe? (i.e. a bit boxy and trying to overload the page with
options/content)
I would like to point out that there seems to be nothing there that is
Google App Engine specific. That design can be implemented using a
Dan Brown wrote:
I'm not a designer but I am currently considering going freelance as a
web developer so been reading up on some of the standard rules of web
design, content and user experience in case I need them.
Not bad, this probably makes you the one-eyed man in the land of the
blind
I like it too.
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Pete Morgan ac...@daffodil.uk.com wrote:
Have developed the idea a bit further.
http://fg-www.appspot.com/
idea is to have a dedicated aircraft and Online site also
is this worth pursuing ? Its quite neat and developer friendly on the
Curtis Olson wrote:
Hi Pete,
Here's one possible idea. Why not whip together a replacement front
page and maybe a sample sub-page, put it in a temporary location, and
we can take a look. That way we could present some different ideas
and see if we like them, but at the same time, you
Pete Morgan wrote:
http://fg-aircraft.appspot.com/idea/
Am not a graphic designer ;-(
Nicely integrated! I like it a lot.
Erik
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Erik Hofman wrote
Pete Morgan wrote:
http://fg-aircraft.appspot.com/idea/
Am not a graphic designer ;-(
Nicely integrated! I like it a lot.
Erik
Me too! Who needs graphic designers to muck up an engineer's solution :-)?
Nice functionality. Keep on working on it - this looks
Very Nice! Clean, Integrated very well.
On Mar 6, 2010, at 7:07 AM, Pete Morgan wrote:
Here's an idea
http://fg-aircraft.appspot.com/idea/
Am not a graphic designer ;-(
pete
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Hi. This is my first message to list but I would like to say I like it
a lot!
Pedro
On 2010/03/06, at 12:07, Pete Morgan ac...@daffodil.uk.com wrote:
Curtis Olson wrote:
Hi Pete,
Here's one possible idea. Why not whip together a replacement front
page and maybe a sample sub-page, put it
Very nice !
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Curtis Olson wrote:
Here's one possible idea. Why not whip together a replacement front
page and maybe a sample sub-page, put it in a temporary location, and we
can take a look. That way we could present some different ideas and see
if we like them, but at the same time, you don't have to
Hi Erik,
On Monday 01 March 2010 12:02:10 pm Erik Hofman wrote:
Here's a quick attempt of mine:
http://home.telfort.nl/sp004798/fgfs/
I like this new concept. What should probably be added is a Home on the top-
left, just above the News menu, which could link to a page containing the
current
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Pete Morgan ac...@daffodil.uk.com wrote:
I want to help please...
Hi Pete,
Here's one possible idea. Why not whip together a replacement front page
and maybe a sample sub-page, put it in a temporary location, and we can take
a look. That way we could present
On 02/16/2010 11:27 AM, Curtis Olson wrote:
Here's one possible idea. Why not whip together a replacement front page
and maybe a sample sub-page, put it in a temporary location, and we can take
a look.
That's a great idea.
Taking the next step along that road, it would be
nice to bring
Who is the active developer of the main flightgear.org website?
pete
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Who is the active developer of the
main flightgear.org website?
pete
Well, maybe the guy which name can be read at the bottom of flightgear.org? ;-)
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Heiko Schulz wrote:
Who is the active developer of the
main flightgear.org website?
pete
Well, maybe the guy which name can be read at the bottom of flightgear.org?
;-)
He's not on this site
http://www.flightgear.pl/
or this one
http://www.flightgear.jpn.org/
for example.
Andrew Gluszynski
Hi all,
I dont normaly post to this mailing list, but i think the web site has
been hacked?
It has, but this still works http://flightgear.org/
Vivian
-
Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need
Hi all,
I dont normaly post to this mailing list, but i think the web site has
been hacked?
-
Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology
Confirmed... no thinking about it...it's been hit buy hackers :-(
Dene
Andrew Gluszynski wrote:
Hi all,
I dont normaly post to this mailing list, but i think the web site has
been hacked?
-
Using Tomcat but need to
Hi. Please don't top-post; it makes your posts very very hard
to follow.
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:22:43 +1300
Dene wrote:
Andrew Gluszynski wrote:
Hi all,
I dont normaly post to this mailing list, but i think the web site has
been hacked?
Confirmed... no thinking about it...it's been hit
Chris Metzler wrote:
Hi. Please don't top-post; it makes your posts very very hard
to follow.
Hi Chris,
What do you mean top-post, I thought the protocol was to edit the post
you were replying to and post your comments either through out it or at
the bottom?
Cheers
Dene
PS thnx for the
The http://www.flightgear.org seems to be offline (maybe a DNS problem) and http://flightgear.org is working fine.Leidson CamposPlanetaMessenger.org
On 11/9/06, Andrew Gluszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,I dont normaly post to this mailing list, but i think the web site hasbeen
On 11/9/06, Leidson Campos A. Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The http://www.flightgear.org seems to be offline (maybe a DNS problem) and
http://flightgear.org is working fine.Check what IP addresses these names point to. www.flightgear.org is the official site.,
flightgear.org actually points
On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 04:05 -0500, Chris Metzler wrote:
Hi. Please don't top-post; it makes your posts very very hard
to follow.
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:22:43 +1300
Dene wrote:
Andrew Gluszynski wrote:
Hi all,
I dont normaly post to this mailing list, but i think the web site has
Check what IP addresses these names point to.The
www.flightgear.org points to 72.36.162.58 (Not working)The flightgear.org points to 128.101.142.119 (Working)
Leidson CamposPlanetaMessenger.orgOn 11/9/06, Curtis Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11/9/06, Leidson Campos A. Ferreira
[EMAIL
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:15:27 +1300
Dene wrote:
Hi Chris,
What do you mean top-post, I thought the protocol was to edit the
post you were replying to and post your comments either through out it
or at the bottom?
Yep, you got it; and it's what you did in the post I'm replying to here;
but not
This is a quick announcement to let every one know that I have moved the
primary FlightGear web site off my university's network to a paid
commercial web hosting service. I've put in quite a bit of time/effort
to make sure this transition is seamless with no downtime, broken links,
or other
I've recently done a bit of behind the scenes restructuring of the web
site to remove many absolute references and make the site more
relocatable. Please keep your eyes open and report any busted links
or other oddities on the flightgear.org web site you might notice.
I am doing this in order
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