On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Yurik V. Nikiforoff wrote:
>> ? ? ?? 23 2007 15:53 AJ MacLeod ???(a):
>> Still, I'm very much looking forward to seeing it in CVS - the An-2 is
>> a great model and a 3d cockpit will be the icing on the cake :-)
>
> It's 3 month of work since november :)
Tha
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В сообщении от 23 Март 2007 15:53 AJ MacLeod написал(a):
> > Some screenshots of new An-2 3d cocpit you can see here:
> > http://www.avsim.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=34552
>
> Or we could if we were registered users, I'm guessing :-\
Ooops! Whey change policy for anonymous login... sorry...
Loo
On Friday 23 March 2007 09:45, Yurik V. Nikiforoff wrote:
> Some screenshots of new An-2 3d cocpit you can see here:
> http://www.avsim.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=34552
Or we could if we were registered users, I'm guessing :-\
Still, I'm very much looking forward to seeing it in CVS - the An-2 i
Some screenshots of new An-2 3d cocpit you can see here:
http://www.avsim.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=34552
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В сообщении от 12 Март 2007 21:26 gh.robin написал(a):
>
> we only need from Yurik V. Nikiforoff
>
Sorry for long silence, but I was busy wery much, and return to my country one
day ago. I had not inet at all about month:(
New version of An-2 should be ready about 2-3 weeks. It's have animated
> > This may be the first thing that everyone looked at, but are the brakes
> > set? (does it have brakes?)
> >
> > g.
>
> He Gene the problem has been solved by Jon
>
Yep. I spotted that about 3 messages after I posted my suggestion. I
guess that's what I get for not reading mail all weekend.
On Mon 12 March 2007 16:16, gh.robin wrote:
SNIP
> >
> > This may be the first thing that everyone looked at, but are the brakes
> > set? (does it have brakes?)
> >
> > g.
>
> He Gene the problem has been solved by Jon
>
> look at thiis
>
AND
we only need from Yurik V. Nikiforoff
A CVS updat
On Mon 12 March 2007 15:18, Gene Buckle wrote:
> > What's frustrating is that the aircraft doesn't seem to want to move.
> > That should be a generic bug for all piston aircraft - if not all
> > aircraft. I've created a script for testing the AN2. I have modified the
> > engine file (as described).
> What's frustrating is that the aircraft doesn't seem to want to move. That
> should be a generic bug for all piston aircraft - if not all aircraft. I've
> created a script for testing the AN2. I have modified the engine file (as
> described). I can start it. I can see the engine generating a thru
On Sat 10 March 2007 15:11, Jon S. Berndt wrote:
> > > How are the brakes ?
> > >
> > > -Fred
> >
> > The brakes (using JSBSim in standalone mode) must be
> > intentionally set. I've
> > checked the gear forces. They are as expected.
> >
> > Jon
>
> OK, I think I have a solution. It *does* have to
> > How are the brakes ?
> >
> > -Fred
>
> The brakes (using JSBSim in standalone mode) must be
> intentionally set. I've
> checked the gear forces. They are as expected.
>
> Jon
OK, I think I have a solution. It *does* have to something to do with the
new gear features. Also, there was a problem
> How are the brakes ?
>
> -Fred
The brakes (using JSBSim in standalone mode) must be intentionally set. I've
checked the gear forces. They are as expected.
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Jon S. Berndt a écrit :
>> yes but in november i can fly with it, it was just hard to start
>> the engine.
>> now, even with a started engine, it's impossible to move the aircraft.
>> it's not the same problem ;-)
>>
>> didier.
>>
>
> What's frustrating is that the aircraft doesn't seem to wan
> yes but in november i can fly with it, it was just hard to start
> the engine.
> now, even with a started engine, it's impossible to move the aircraft.
> it's not the same problem ;-)
>
> didier.
What's frustrating is that the aircraft doesn't seem to want to move. That
should be a generic bug f
Le Saturday 10 March 2007 08:50:46 Martin Spott, vous avez écrit :
> "Jon S. Berndt" wrote:
> > This should not be so hard. Did anyone personally ever fly this aircraft?
>
> BTW, there's been a thread of almost 60 postings on the AN-2, about
> first or second week in November - that one was really
"Jon S. Berndt" wrote:
> This should not be so hard. Did anyone personally ever fly this aircraft?
BTW, there's been a thread of almost 60 postings on the AN-2, about
first or second week in November - that one was really hard to miss.
Things like hardcoded min rpm for piston engines in JSBSim ha
"Jon S. Berndt" wrote:
> This should not be so hard. Did anyone personally ever fly this aircraft?
Certainly - otherwise it would not have made it into CVS,
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> How many RPMS does the engine get when you try to start it?
>
> This should not be so hard. Did anyone personally ever fly this aircraft?
>
> Jon
If I set up the engine to look like this, the aircraft seems to fly:
6.0
41.4
1823.00
1800.00
2.0
> To me , the last JSBSim FG CVS update is right, I can start
> and fly every propeller Aircraft, but the An2 which does not
> take off (not enough power to take off) , it can fly only if
> we launch it from altitude (enough power to fly).
Do the props have pitch to them? Do you have to se
> To me , the last JSBSim FG CVS update is right, I can start and fly every
> propeller Aircraft,
> but the An2 which does not take off (not enough power to take
> off) , it can
> fly only if we launch it from altitude (enough power to fly).
>
> Gérard
How many RPMS does the engine get when you
On Fri 9 March 2007 15:04, Jon S. Berndt wrote:
> > Hi Jon,
> >
> > Yeah, this was kind of what we were talking about :-)
>
> Oops. OK, are there problems with any other propeller aircraft?
>
> Jon
>
>
>
To me , the last JSBSim FG CVS update is right, I can start and fly every
propeller Aircraft,
Jon S. Berndt wrote:
>> Hi Jon,
>>
>> Yeah, this was kind of what we were talking about :-)
>>
>
> Oops. OK, are there problems with any other propeller aircraft?
It shouldn't be, I testes a lot of aircraft before committing the code.
Could be the AN-2 slipped my attention though.
Erik
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> Hi Jon,
>
> Yeah, this was kind of what we were talking about :-)
>
Oops. OK, are there problems with any other propeller aircraft?
Jon
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AJ MacLeod wrote:
> The engine started OK before (at least here) - it's just that the a/c
> would'nt
> drag itself even an inch forwards. It did fly when it was committed first -
> unfortunately we don't have a definite idea of when it stopped working.
Did anyone bother browsing the changes t
On Friday 09 March 2007 13:15, Jon S. Berndt wrote:
> > OK, I adjusted the starter - not sure if that's correct, but it seemed to
> > start the engine. This is the diff with what's in JSBSim CVS:
> Strange thing about the an-2 is that now I can get the engine to generate
> thrust, but it never deve
> OK, I adjusted the starter - not sure if that's correct, but it seemed to
> start the engine. This is the diff with what's in JSBSim CVS:
Strange thing about the an-2 is that now I can get the engine to generate
thrust, but it never develops a velocity - never accelerates.
Jon
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> It sort of seems like the starter doesn't have enough power to start the
> engine.
>
> Jon
OK, I adjusted the starter - not sure if that's correct, but it seemed to
start the engine. This is the diff with what's in JSBSim CVS:
-- start --
RCS file: /cvsroot/jsbsim/JSBSim/src/models/propulsion/
> Is there a way to check which changes were applied between the time it did
> work and the time it didn't?
>
> Jon
It sort of seems like the starter doesn't have enough power to start the
engine.
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> > Silly question: is it fueled?
>
> Well, the engine seemed to start alright yesterday and the propeller was
> spinning so I don't think that was/is the problem. (I did peek around
> below /fdm/jsbsim/propulsion/... with the property browser.)
> I didn't get any thrust whatsoever, though, which t
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Jon S. Berndt wrote:
> Silly question: is it fueled?
Well, the engine seemed to start alright yesterday and the propeller was
spinning so I don't think that was/is the problem. (I did peek around
below /fdm/jsbsim/propulsion/... with the property browser.)
I didn't get any
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> On Wed, 2007-03-07 at
> The aircraft used to fly quite well, but I didn't use it regularly so I
> don't know when it ceased to work.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anders
Silly question: is it fueled?
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On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, Jon S. Berndt wrote:
> My apologies. I didn't realize this was a JSBSim aircraft. If someone could
> send me the aircraft file, the prop and engine files, I can take a look. Or,
> tell me where I can get it.
Hi,
You can find the latest version in the CVS browser:
http://cvs.f
On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 21:54 -0600, Jon S. Berndt wrote:
> > As a side note, the engine claims a displacement of 250 cubic inches and
> > an output of 1300 horsepower! I suspect something isn't right.
> > Aeromatic suggests a 1300 hp piston engine should displace ~2080 cubes.
> >
> > Ron
>
>
>
> As a side note, the engine claims a displacement of 250 cubic inches and
> an output of 1300 horsepower! I suspect something isn't right.
> Aeromatic suggests a 1300 hp piston engine should displace ~2080 cubes.
>
> Ron
One figure I saw online says the displacement is about 1800 in3.
Did th
OK, I've got the model version 0.1 - I hope it's the latest. I'll take a
look at it when I get some time. If it's something obvious I ought to be
able to fix it quickly. I can set up a script to test it out.
Jon
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On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, Ron Jensen wrote:
> I hand massaged the pitch to 17/32 as in the original file, and I
> lowered the diameter from 141.7 to 132 because it wouldn't start with
> 141.7 as a diameter.
That (132in) is the correct diameter for the AV-2 propeller. (132 inches or
3.35 meters) Source:
> I'll add my vote for that something has gone awry with the An-2 recently.
> I have flown it before but today it was impossible to get it to move
> despite the engine running. My guess is that the updated version of
> JSBSim caused the propeller definition to break (or exposed some
> problem in it
On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 15:49 +0100, Anders Gidenstam wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, AJ MacLeod wrote:
>
> > Possibly, but I'm seeing the same as Tim here now... and I had no trouble
> > making it work before. I can start the engine at the first attempt, but no
> > matter what I try or how high the R
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, AJ MacLeod wrote:
> Possibly, but I'm seeing the same as Tim here now... and I had no trouble
> making it work before. I can start the engine at the first attempt, but no
> matter what I try or how high the RPM the a/c doesn't move at all.
I'll add my vote for that something
On Wednesday 07 March 2007 14:33, Martin Spott wrote:
> Sorry, I'm not. Yet I remember that I ran into similar trouble when I
> did an initial check of the AN-2 (before putting it into CVS). I had to
> read the startup procedure at least twice in order not to overlook
> something. Maybe you simply
Tim Moore wrote:
> I apologize in advance if this isn't the appropriate list for this
> question. I've managed to start the engine on the An2 by following the
> supplied directions, but I can't get it to take off. It's as if the
> propeller isn't developing any thrust. Are there any other quirky
>
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