Re: [Flightgear-devel] Does the wiki.flightgear.org still exist? Why can't open the webpage?

2006-12-20 Thread Curtis Olson
On 12/19/06, tangyong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does the wiki.flightgear.org still exist?Why can't open the webpage?I have tried many times,but I failed. The page is working for me here right now. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.f

[Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Martin Spott
There are many TODO-lists for FlightGear that are floating around on The Net. One of thesde is the "Feature Requests / Proposals / Ideas" page on The Wiki, where someone proposes to load DAFIF into a database. Because I don't really understand what the author is aiming at or if he knows about the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Does the wiki.flightgear.org still exist? Why can't open the webpage?

2006-12-20 Thread Simon Hollier
It works for me here too. Where are you trying to access it from? Simon On 12/20/06, Curtis Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 12/19/06, tangyong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does the wiki.flightgear.org still exist?Why can't open the webpage?I > have tried many times,but I failed. > The

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..fgfsbuilder off svn, was: Issues compiling taxidraw...

2006-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:43:50 +0100, Arnt wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > ..except for this wee error: > http://80.239.32.253/arnt/fgfsbuilder.stable.jealous.plib.ssgLoad3ds.bug ..looks like it has been fixed. :o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:34:18 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > There are many TODO-lists for FlightGear that are floating around on > The Net. One of thesde is the "Feature Requests / Proposals / Ideas" > page on The Wiki, where someone proposes to load DAFIF into a > da

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem using external FDM

2006-12-20 Thread Curtis Olson
On 12/19/06, Antonio Almeida wrote: Hello all, I'm trying to get my FDM to work with FlightGear. My FDM runs in Linux and sends packets to FlightGear using UDP. Everything works fine when FlightGear runs in Windows on another machine in my network. What I cannot do is get things to work when

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Martin Spott
Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:34:18 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message > <[my own Message-ID removed]>: Man, am I glad that I'm using an 'inofficial' domainname for writing these postings, otherwise your ignorance concerning privacy issues would push my address into every harvest

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Curtis Olson
On 12/20/06, Martin Spott wrote: Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:34:18 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message > <[my own Message-ID removed]>: Man, am I glad that I'm using an 'inofficial' domainname for writing these postings, otherwise your ignorance concerning privacy issues would

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis Olson" wrote: > I don't see what advantage maintaining our own SQL version of a subset of > someone else's SQL database will give us. Faster editing? The file isn't > big enough to really worry about speed. Want to use an sql database with > flightgear at runtime? Better find an embedd

[Flightgear-devel] chinook data (was ch53 ditto)

2006-12-20 Thread Joacim Persson
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Maik Justus wrote: > Important info for the ch47d flight model. I had expected a large delta3 > effect. Forgot to mention that the chinooks do however have lead-lag hinges which may have a blade pitch coupling to it, I don't know (yet). We don't have lead-lag hinges in the rot

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Stefan Seifert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Curtis Olson wrote: > Want to use an sql database with > flightgear at runtime? Better find an embedded database tool that is > binary > compatible across all platforms ... and is open source ... and compiles on > all the platforms we support ... ! W

Re: [Flightgear-devel] chinook data (was ch53 ditto)

2006-12-20 Thread wim van hoydonck
I just looked at the data for the ch47, and I think there are some values that could/should change, based on the data for our own chinook flight dynamics model (for the CH47D) rotor parameters: blade mass -> 111.6 [kg] omega -> 23.562 [rad/s] (=225 rpm) <- value much too high in yasim config fil

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Issues compiling taxidraw...

2006-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:28:58 +0100, Ralf wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > fgfs-builder will fetch the required sources and compile the CVS/OSG > version of FlightGear and OSG. ..ahem, fgfsbuilder makes no FlightGear_base. http://80.239.32.253/arnt/fgfsbuilder.makes.no.FlightGear_base.bug

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:10:47 +0100, Arnt wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:34:18 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > There are many TODO-lists for FlightGear that are floating around on > > The Net. One of thesde is the "Feature Request

Re: [Flightgear-devel] chinook data (was ch53 ditto)

2006-12-20 Thread Joacim Persson
Wim, The "ch47" in cvs is only a concept demonstrator of a tandem helicopter. Hardly any numbers there represent a real Chinook. I'm fiddling with another configuration. On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, wim van hoydonck wrote: blade mass -> 111.6 [kg] This is different from the blade mass I am using: 35

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:15:11 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:34:18 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message > > <[my own Message-ID removed]>: > > Man, am I glad that I'm using an 'inofficial' domainname for writing > these

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:27:14 -0600, Curtis wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 12/20/06, Martin Spott wrote: > > > > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:34:18 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message > > > <[my own Message-ID removed]>: > > Well, my intention was to remove that i

[Flightgear-devel] ..does SimGear(_plib) build at all --with-jpeg-factory, was: Issues compiling taxidraw...

2006-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:19:38 +0100, Arnt wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > ..now trying CONFIGURE_OPTS=" --with-jpeg-factory " in > /opt/src/fgfsbuilder/stable/products/SimGear_plib/rules > if that fails, I'm missing something basic. ;o) ..CONFIGURE_OPTS=" --with-jpeg-factory " in /opt/sr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] chinook data (was ch53 ditto)

2006-12-20 Thread wim van hoydonck
Hi Joacim, > My sources: > "CH-47 Theory of Operation" which can be downloaded (beware: >50MB!) > from: http://www.chinook-helicopter.com/Publications/Publications.html > (page "5-9", p. 232 in the pdf) > And a Boeing drawing of a somewhat inconventient size (6.6M): > http://www.chinook-helicopter

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Martin Spott
Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..any chance we can get full access to the data we need? > It might cover e.g. temporary things like scheduled shutdown > of runways or taxiways becoming airshow runways etc. > Obviously we're not interested in X-Plane specific data. Where did you spot X-Plane specific da

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CH53e data

2006-12-20 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Wim, wim van hoydonck schrieb am 19.12.2006 23:44: > The minimum pitch angle at the blade root (or pitch bearing) for most > helicopters is somewhere around 0 degrees, sometimes a bit more, > sometimes a bit less. This is probably dictated by airworthiness > requirements related to autorotationa

Re: [Flightgear-devel] chinook data (was ch53 ditto)

2006-12-20 Thread Martin Spott
Joacim Persson wrote: > And a Boeing drawing of a somewhat inconventient size (6.6M): > http://www.chinook-helicopter.com/Drawings/Structure/Images/CH-47D_Drawing.jpg Wow, _that_ is amazing ! Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CH53e data

2006-12-20 Thread wim van hoydonck
> If I got you correctly, the tip of the rotor for most helicopters has > negative pitch at minimum collective (equal to the twist, e.g. -8.5° for > the bo, -9 ... -12° for the ch47). Indeed. > On ground most helicopters are parked > with collective full down. Therefore it should be possible, to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CH53e data

2006-12-20 Thread Maik Justus
Hi, wim van hoydonck schrieb am 20.12.2006 21:48: >> If I got you correctly, the tip of the rotor for most helicopters has >> negative pitch at minimum collective (equal to the twist, e.g. -8.5° for >> the bo, -9 ... -12° for the ch47). >> > > Indeed. > > >> On ground most helicopters are p

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ground properties, was Re: osg/plib, difference in collision detection

2006-12-20 Thread Maik Justus
Hi here is a patch that YASim gears make use of the ground properties (friction, bumpiness, etc). It enhances the gears, that you can define different gears for "on water" and for "not on water". And you can define "inverse-speed-spring-is-doubled", with this the gear extends with increasing s

[Flightgear-devel] Fw: Re: Does the wiki. flightgear.org still exist? Why can't ope n the webpage?

2006-12-20 Thread tangyong
I access the wiki.flightgear.org from Chengdu,a southwest city of China mainland.I tried it again,but I failed. -- -- From:""Simon Hollier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" Date:2006-12-20 22:33:10 To:"FlightGear developers discussions" Cc:() Subject:Re: [Flightgear-devel] Does the wiki.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fw: Re: Does the wiki. flightgear.org still exist? Why can't ope n the webpage?

2006-12-20 Thread Josh Babcock
tangyong wrote: > I access the wiki.flightgear.org from Chengdu,a southwest city of China > mainland.I tried it again,but I failed. > > > Ha, we must have written something subversive! Maybe if we include a few quotes from the little red book they will let us back through the firewall. Josh

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:10:13 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..any chance we can get full access to the data we need? > > It might cover e.g. temporary things like scheduled shutdown > > of runways or taxiways becoming airshow runways etc.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fw: Re: Does the wiki. flightgear.org still exist? Why can't ope n the webpage?

2006-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 09:20:11 +0800 (CST), tangyong wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I access the wiki.flightgear.org from Chengdu,a southwest city of > China mainland.I tried it again,but I failed. ..aha. If it fails, promptly try again, I had it fail too on my first try. If it still f

Re: [Flightgear-devel] chinook data (was ch53 ditto)

2006-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:17:27 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Joacim Persson wrote: > > > And a Boeing drawing of a somewhat inconventient size (6.6M): > > http://www.chinook-helicopter.com/Drawings/Structure/Images/CH-47D_Drawing.jpg > > Wow, _that_ is amazing ! >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fw: Re: Does the wiki. flightgear.org still exist? Why can't ope n the webpage?

2006-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:53:03 -0500, Josh wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > tangyong wrote: > > I access the wiki.flightgear.org from Chengdu,a southwest city of > > China mainland.I tried it again,but I failed. > > > > > > > > Ha, we must have written something subversive! Maybe if we i

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Curtis Olson
On 12/20/06, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > DAFIF doesn't release any new data to the public at all, Robin > releases every one or two months, so there's no real point in > preferring DAFIF over Robin's export, ..precisely why we might prefer an enhancement to Robin's current export. What are we plan

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Import DAFIF into SQL !?

2006-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:46:00 -0600, Curtis wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 12/20/06, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > DAFIF doesn't release any new data to the public at all, Robin > > > releases every one or two months, so there's no real point in > > > preferring DAFIF over Robin's expor

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ground properties, was Re: osg/plib, difference in collision detection

2006-12-20 Thread Detlef Faber
Hi Maik, Am Donnerstag, den 21.12.2006, 02:14 +0100 schrieb Maik Justus: > Hi > > here is a patch that YASim gears make use of the ground properties > (friction, bumpiness, etc). > It enhances the gears, that you can define different gears for "on > water" and for "not on water". > And you can

[Flightgear-devel] what's the current multiplayer version in flightgear-0.9.10

2006-12-20 Thread tangyong
I find that there are more than one multiplayer server in flightgear-0.9.10.What's the current multiplayer version in flightgear-0.9.10.Is there any document about it.My project need to input radar data to flightgear to drive many aircrafts to fly autonomouslly.Do I need to rewrite the server,b