Re: [Flightgear-devel] An-2 v0.2 ready!

2007-04-29 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Saturday 28 April 2007:
 splash textures can now also be greyscale and greyscale/alpha,
 and they also respect an alpha layer. That way one can use
 countours (squadron emblems, etc.) together with varying background
 colors (--prop:/sim/gui/style/colors/splash-screen/red=0.5 etc.)

Here's an example:

  http://members.aon.at/mfranz/a6-splash.jpg  [24.6 kB]  

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] compressed splash by Gimp Was: An-2 v0.2 ready!

2007-04-29 Thread Stewart Andreason
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
 * Melchior FRANZ -- Saturday 28 April 2007:
 splash textures can now also be greyscale and greyscale/alpha,
 and they also respect an alpha layer. That way one can use
 countours (squadron emblems, etc.) together with varying background
 colors (--prop:/sim/gui/style/colors/splash-screen/red=0.5 etc.)
 
 Here's an example:
 
   http://members.aon.at/mfranz/a6-splash.jpg  [24.6 kB]  

Too bad the splash loader doesn't take jpeg files. The size difference is more 
than significant.

I grabbed the A-6E/splash.rgb from cvs to see what you're talking about.

I do see what you're doing with the alpha. It is one way to save space.
However, I don't see the greyscale. Perhaps this isn't meant as an example of 
that.
It is just another 8/8/8/8 bit file, that doesn't look special to me. BUT, 
when I posed above a green runway, and made my own transparent splash screen 
file... _I_ got a Seg.Fault!!

After trying this and that, I find if I save with Aggressive RLE Compression, 
then it crashes Flightgear 0.9.10.
If I save with just RLE compression, it works file, and only costs a few bytes.

So, If Alpha == 0 then save Agressive RLE is ok
else if alpha =1 then save RLE compression.

So while the SGI format may not support 8/8/8/1, the identify program does 
make the distinction, that seems to have relevance to splash screens (in the 
old loader).


  So it's indeed required not to use the aggressive RLE option for
  the splash screen images [...]
 
  Nope. But GIMP apparently generates corrupted files where compressed
  scanlines aren't properly closed. (This is probably the reason why
  they falsely claim that SGI doesn't support those. Yes, some spec
  compliant readers may not like the corrupted GIMP files.  ;-)

So the documentation for how to save as sgi format is needing some 
clarification regarding images with transparency.

Stewart

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] compressed splash by Gimp Was: An-2 v0.2 ready!

2007-04-29 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Stewart Andreason -- Sunday 29 April 2007:
 I do see what you're doing with the alpha. It is one way to save space.

The main purpose is to have transparency.



 However, I don't see the greyscale. Perhaps this isn't meant as an
 example of that.

Exactly. If you want a demonstration for that, just turn the color down
on your monitor.  :-}



 After trying this and that, I find if I save with Aggressive RLE
 Compression, then it crashes Flightgear 0.9.10.

Did you miss my message where I explained the cause and reported the
fix? Of course, I could only fix fgfs in cvs, and not the copy of
0.9.10 on your harddisk, which will remain broken till the end of
time.  :-P

m.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] ASI: YASim Systems/pitot bug ?

2007-04-29 Thread Martin Spott
Andy Ross wrote:
 Melchior FRANZ wrote:
  1. YASim delivers a positive /velocities/airspeed-kt on backward
 flight.
 
 This strikes me as correct behavior.  If you stick a pitot tube
 into an airstream backwards, you will get exactly the same
 reading as forward (well, modulo viscosity and mach effects).

With a certain understanding of gas dynamics this is hard to believe.
Do you have any pointer that backs your assumption ?

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] T38 changes

2007-04-29 Thread Martin Spott
Csaba Hal?sz wrote:

 Two patches today:
 
 1) fix source property for mach display
 2) added 6 structure contact points, no more falling through the
 ground hopefully ;) (I just made up some spring coefficients)

Did someone already merge these patches ?

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] KNID: New Airport layout ant buildings

2007-04-29 Thread Martin Spott
Hi ALexis,

alexis bory wrote:
 Melchior FRANZ a ??crit :
   * alexis bory -- Saturday 31 March 2007:
   I've modelled KNID (China Lake Naval Air Weapons Station, CA.)
   buildings and taxiways layout.
 
   http://croo.murgl.org/fgfs/scenery/
 
   That must be the nicest airport available for fgfs (though I haven't
   seen most of the German airports).
 
 That make me think that there is no common process to make new airports 
 available (like CVS or such kind of system), so it's rather difficult 
 for people using the 9.10 Scenery to fetch patches here and there 
 (excepted the Object database). May be an updated list of available 
 patches for aiports (like the German ones) on the wiki could be a 
 starting point.

The definite resource to send runway/taxiway updates to is explained
here:

  http://www.x-plane.org/home/robinp/index.htm#Updates

I'd kindly ask to send your the respective airport layout updates to
Robin.
Ragarding the 3D models: Please tell me or Jon Stokill when you
consider these to be ready for the Scenery Objects Database.

Thanks, the screenshots really look promising !

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] KNID: New Airport layout ant buildings

2007-04-29 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote:

 That must be the nicest airport available for fgfs (though I
 haven't seen most of the German airports).

Paris Orly looks impressive as well !

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal in OBJECT_STATIC and AI models

2007-04-29 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote:

 The only example that uses this is Alexis' KNID airport. Hangar 1 has
 a door that opens when you taxi right in front of it, and it closes
 again when you move away. Though, for performance reasons, the scenery
 shouldn't be overloaded with such active objects, it would be nice to
 see more of them.

Is animation of such static objects coupled with some sort of LOD
mechanism ?

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal in OBJECT_STATIC and AI models

2007-04-29 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Sunday 29 April 2007:
 Is animation of such static objects coupled with some sort of LOD
 mechanism ?

Not a forced one. The load part is executed when the object's
tile is loaded, and the unload part when the tile is removed
from memory. The unload part has to actively stop what was
started in the load part, otherwise it keeps running (and that's
a feature). But the removal of a tile happens only when you are
quite far away, so if the mechanism is used a lot, then such
running code might accumulate. But then again, random or shared
objects don't support embedded Nasal at all, and only few static
objects will ever use it. I don't think we should worry already.
After many years the bay area has still only one airport with
buildings ...  ;-)

m.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] An-2 v0.2 ready!

2007-04-29 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Thursday 26 April 2007:
 The splash-screen displays fine, but when it comes to display the
 3D scene, the whole sim crashes with a core dump.

Chances for a fix are probably higher when the files are committed.
More eyes looking at the core dump. And we can poke Mathias until
he has fixed it.  ;-)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Weekly CVS Changelog Summary: FlightGear data

2007-04-29 Thread Stefan Seifert
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For your weekly CVS summary log reading pleasure I hacked up a little
Perl script that merges similar entries, so:

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
2007-04-25_23:12:42 (sydadams)
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Instruments-3d/kns80/KNS80.nas

display frequency when USE or DSP button pressed...


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
2007-04-25_23:12:43 (sydadams)
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Instruments-3d/kns80/kns80-hotspots.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Instruments-3d/kns80/kns80.xml

display frequency when USE or DSP button pressed...


becomes:

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
2007-04-25_23:12:42 (sydadams)
2007-04-25_23:12:43 (sydadams)
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Instruments-3d/kns80/KNS80.nas
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Instruments-3d/kns80/kns80-hotspots.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Instruments-3d/kns80/kns80.xml

display frequency when USE or DSP button pressed...


Have a nicer reading and if the coding can be improved, please let me
know :)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] T38 changes

2007-04-29 Thread Ron Jensen
On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 17:33 +, Martin Spott wrote:
 Csaba Hal?sz wrote:
 
  Two patches today:
  
  1) fix source property for mach display
  2) added 6 structure contact points, no more falling through the
  ground hopefully ;) (I just made up some spring coefficients)
 
 Did someone already merge these patches ?
 
   Martin.

Not yet.

I modified Csaba's spring coefficients slightly (see attachement) so the
aircraft will rest on the ground without jumping around.

Ron

? contacts.diff
Index: T38.xml
===
RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/T38/T38.xml,v
retrieving revision 1.15
diff -u -r1.15 T38.xml
--- T38.xml	5 Mar 2007 18:27:44 -	1.15
+++ T38.xml	29 Apr 2007 18:12:23 -
@@ -119,6 +119,72 @@
 brake_group RIGHT /brake_group
 retractable1/retractable
 /contact
+	contact type=STRUCTURE name=NOSE
+	location unit=IN
+		x -22 /x
+		y 0 /y
+		z -4 /z
+	/location
+	static_friction  0.80 /static_friction
+	dynamic_friction 0.50 /dynamic_friction
+	spring_coeff unit=LBS/FT  5000.00 /spring_coeff
+	damping_coeff unit=LBS/FT/SEC  500.00 /damping_coeff
+	/contact
+	contact type=STRUCTURE name=LEFT_WINGTIP
+	location unit=IN
+		x 330 /x
+		y -157 /y
+		z -15 /z
+	/location
+	static_friction  0.80 /static_friction
+	dynamic_friction 0.50 /dynamic_friction
+	spring_coeff unit=LBS/FT  5000.00 /spring_coeff
+	damping_coeff unit=LBS/FT/SEC  500.00 /damping_coeff
+	/contact
+	contact type=STRUCTURE name=RIGHT_WINGTIP
+	location unit=IN
+		x 330 /x
+		y 157 /y
+		z -15 /z
+	/location
+	static_friction  0.80 /static_friction
+	dynamic_friction 0.50 /dynamic_friction
+	spring_coeff unit=LBS/FT  5000.00 /spring_coeff
+	damping_coeff unit=LBS/FT/SEC  500.00 /damping_coeff
+	/contact
+	contact type=STRUCTURE name=CANOPY
+	location unit=IN
+		x 178 /x
+		y 0 /y
+		z 54 /z
+	/location
+	static_friction  0.80 /static_friction
+	dynamic_friction 0.50 /dynamic_friction
+	spring_coeff unit=LBS/FT  5000.00 /spring_coeff
+	damping_coeff unit=LBS/FT/SEC  500.00 /damping_coeff
+	/contact
+	contact type=STRUCTURE name=VSTAB
+	location unit=IN
+		x 450 /x
+		y 0 /y
+		z 114 /z
+	/location
+	static_friction  0.80 /static_friction
+	dynamic_friction 0.50 /dynamic_friction
+	spring_coeff unit=LBS/FT  5000.00 /spring_coeff
+	damping_coeff unit=LBS/FT/SEC  500.00 /damping_coeff
+	/contact
+	contact type=STRUCTURE name=ENGINES
+	location unit=IN
+		x 525 /x
+		y 0 /y
+		z 5 /z
+	/location
+	static_friction  0.80 /static_friction
+	dynamic_friction 0.50 /dynamic_friction
+	spring_coeff unit=LBS/FT  5000.00 /spring_coeff
+	damping_coeff unit=LBS/FT/SEC  500.00 /damping_coeff
+	/contact
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[Flightgear-devel] Fix to BAC-TSR2 trajectory-markers

2007-04-29 Thread alexis bory

Hi,

This patch replace the previous one wich was lost in the stream.
Discussed today with Lee who agrees.

Modified files:
   /data/Aircraft/BAC-TSR2/BAC-TSR2-set
   /data/Aircraft/BAC-TSR2/Nasal/BAC-TSR2.nas

Log Message:
   Fix broken trajectory-markers toggle command.

Thanks,

Alexis



Index: Nasal/BAC-TSR2.nas
===
RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/BAC-TSR2/Nasal/BAC-TSR2.nas,v
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -p -r1.4 BAC-TSR2.nas
--- Nasal/BAC-TSR2.nas  12 Aug 2005 18:13:07 -  1.4
+++ Nasal/BAC-TSR2.nas  29 Apr 2007 19:50:06 -
@@ -242,12 +242,9 @@ atl_heading = func {
   }
 }
 #
-toggle_traj_mkr = func {
-  if(getprop(ai/submodels/trajectory-markers)  1) {
-setprop(ai/submodels/trajectory-markers, 1);
-  } else {
-setprop(ai/submodels/trajectory-markers, 0);
-  }
+var toggle_traj_mkr = func {
+var p = /ai/submodels/trajectory-markers;
+setprop(p, !getprop(p));
 }
 #
 initialise_drop_view_pos = func {
Index: BAC-TSR2-set.xml
===
RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/BAC-TSR2/BAC-TSR2-set.xml,v
retrieving revision 1.6
diff -u -p -r1.6 BAC-TSR2-set.xml
--- BAC-TSR2-set.xml12 Aug 2005 18:13:07 -  1.6
+++ BAC-TSR2-set.xml11 Apr 2007 13:58:56 -
@@ -212,6 +212,12 @@ BAC TSR2 simulation config.
 /keyboard
   /input
 
+  ai
+submodels
+  trajectory-markers type=bool0/trajectory-markers
+/submodels
+  /ai
+
 !-- Autopilot --
   autopilot
 settings
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[Flightgear-devel] Patch: cleaning and optimization on A-10's 3D models

2007-04-29 Thread alexis bory
Hi,

Just a reminder as previous submitting message was forgotten.

Log message:
Clean some 3D models, remove unnecessary transparency on RGB files.


The modified files are available here (334KB):

http://croo.murgl.org/fgfs/A-10/A-10_modified_files_20070411.tgz

Thanks,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] T38 changes

2007-04-29 Thread Gene Buckle
   Two patches today:
  
   1) fix source property for mach display
   2) added 6 structure contact points, no more falling through the
   ground hopefully ;) (I just made up some spring coefficients)
 
  Did someone already merge these patches ?
 
  Martin.

 Not yet.

 I modified Csaba's spring coefficients slightly (see attachement) so the
 aircraft will rest on the ground without jumping around.

Ron, did you also happen to tweak it so that it wouldn't roll at idle
throttle without parking brakes?

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Weekly CVS Changelog Summary: FlightGear data

2007-04-29 Thread Curtis Olson

Hi Stefan,

Would you be willing to hack/fixup/modify the original script so that it
produces correct results directly?  The issue is that it combines files
with the same cvs log message and commit date, but sometimes a commit spans
a couple seconds and so the files can get split up into subgroups.

Invocation would be something like:

mail-cvslog-summary.sh /stage/curt/Projects/FlightGear/admin
/stage/curt/Projects/FlightGear/source FlightGear source
flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Thanks,

Curt.


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=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
2007-04-25_23:12:42 (sydadams)
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Instruments-3d/kns80/KNS80.nas

display frequency when USE or DSP button pressed...


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
2007-04-25_23:12:43 (sydadams)
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Instruments-3d/kns80/kns80-
hotspots.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Instruments-3d/kns80/kns80.xml

display frequency when USE or DSP button pressed...


becomes:

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
2007-04-25_23:12:42 (sydadams)
2007-04-25_23:12:43 (sydadams)
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Instruments-3d/kns80/KNS80.nas
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Instruments-3d/kns80/kns80-
hotspots.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Instruments-3d/kns80/kns80.xml

display frequency when USE or DSP button pressed...


Have a nicer reading and if the coding can be improved, please let me
know :)

Nine
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] compressed splash by Gimp Was: An-2 v0.2 ready!

2007-04-29 Thread Stewart Andreason
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
 After trying this and that, I find if I save with Aggressive RLE
 Compression, then it crashes Flightgear 0.9.10.
 
 Did you miss my message where I explained the cause and reported the
 fix? Of course, I could only fix fgfs in cvs, and not the copy of
 0.9.10 on your harddisk, which will remain broken till the end of
 time.  :-P

I saw it, but was thinking of pointing out how to keep the aircraft packages 
compatible with the current version as available at flightgear.org


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