Re: [Flightgear-devel] B-1B Lancer goes cvs
Thanx for the reply AnMaster! Since I am using only osg for my development, there could of course be some incompatabilities for the plib libraries. I experienced also changes in appearance when updating osg one week ago but I will investigate further. This rather raw model however is just a replacement for a more accurate one in work now. Fly on, Markus AnMaster wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I copied the missing files from the original tarball but I notice some problems with the model: I can see the ground through the engine outlets and the windows in external view, seems like the aircraft got no inside. If I use fg/osg I can no longer see ground through the engine outlets but still through the windows: http://pics.ww.com/d/65568-1/B-1B.png Btw, on the right on the screenshot are some odd lines, the right half always got artifacts like that on screenshots with fg/osg but never with fg/plib for me. Someone should probably investigate that bug. Regards AnMaster AnMaster wrote: Using fg/plib I get this: WARNING: ssgSGIHeader::: Failed to open /home/anmaster/src/flightgear/data/Aircraft/B-1B/Models/Instruments-3d/knob.rgb' for reading. Failed to load submodel: Failed to open file at /home/anmaster/src/flightgear/data/Aircraft/B-1B/Models/Instruments-3d/hsi/hsi.xml Failed to load aircraft from Aircraft/B-1B/Models/B-1B.xml (Falling back to glider.ac.) I tried to check it out again but that didn't help. Regards, AnMaster Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Markus Zojer -- Tuesday 10 July 2007: http://homepage.univie.ac.at/markus.zojer/fgfs/B-1B.tar.gz start with --aircraft=B-1B Thanks, committed. I changed the line endings in one file from DOS to UNIX, made absolute paths in the animation file relative, and I had to crop the thumbnail. Requested size is 171x128 (as per Curt's order). You may want to submit another one which doesn't cut off the nose. ;-) FYI: There are some ugly transparency artifacts under fgfs 0.9.11. m. PS: files are under GPL, as confirmed by Markus - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGk+BVWmK6ng/aMNkRCm15AJ9H6tE/GGgxpfgMRa/+pq+FmGTUxwCgtTBH ySbUd8+ARfk1GAZMCnyGwc0= =Pf1h -END PGP SIGNATURE- - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] B-1B Lancer goes cvs
Thanx for the reply! The sound system is on the todo list for the next patch, didn't have time to review it yet. I have to dig in sounds much deeper since they are a key component to realism. Fly on, Markus Maik Justus wrote: Hi Markus, thanks for the new aircraft. I found a small problem in b-1b-sound.xml. There was a bug in the directional sound in Flightgear, which made the directional sound not work. Due to this, nobody recognized some mistakes in the README.xmlsound. (It's all fixed now). The direction need not to be given as a set of angles, but as a vector pointing forward. And instead of inner/outer-cone it should be inner/outer-angle. Maik Markus Zojer schrieb am 10.07.2007 16:29: Hello all! As promised a preview version of the bone for cvs. Can be downloaded here: http://homepage.univie.ac.at/markus.zojer/fgfs/B-1B.tar.gz start with --aircraft=B-1B Some feedback about the FDM would be nice, since I never flew the bone :-) Fly on, Markus - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] B-1B Lancer goes cvs
Am Mittwoch, den 11.07.2007, 09:17 +0200 schrieb Markus Zojer: Thanx for the reply AnMaster! Since I am using only osg for my development, there could of course be some incompatabilities for the plib libraries. This is the object sorting bug in plib. The transparent objects need to be moved to the end of the .ac file, or moved to a different .ac file and loaded at the end of the Model .xml file (which IMHO displays better, if external loads need to be seen through transparent objects, such as propdisks). Greetings Detlef I experienced also changes in appearance when updating osg one week ago but I will investigate further. This rather raw model however is just a replacement for a more accurate one in work now. Fly on, Markus AnMaster wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I copied the missing files from the original tarball but I notice some problems with the model: I can see the ground through the engine outlets and the windows in external view, seems like the aircraft got no inside. If I use fg/osg I can no longer see ground through the engine outlets but still through the windows: http://pics.ww.com/d/65568-1/B-1B.png Btw, on the right on the screenshot are some odd lines, the right half always got artifacts like that on screenshots with fg/osg but never with fg/plib for me. Someone should probably investigate that bug. Regards AnMaster AnMaster wrote: Using fg/plib I get this: WARNING: ssgSGIHeader::: Failed to open /home/anmaster/src/flightgear/data/Aircraft/B-1B/Models/Instruments-3d/knob.rgb' for reading. Failed to load submodel: Failed to open file at /home/anmaster/src/flightgear/data/Aircraft/B-1B/Models/Instruments-3d/hsi/hsi.xml Failed to load aircraft from Aircraft/B-1B/Models/B-1B.xml (Falling back to glider.ac.) I tried to check it out again but that didn't help. Regards, AnMaster Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Markus Zojer -- Tuesday 10 July 2007: http://homepage.univie.ac.at/markus.zojer/fgfs/B-1B.tar.gz start with --aircraft=B-1B Thanks, committed. I changed the line endings in one file from DOS to UNIX, made absolute paths in the animation file relative, and I had to crop the thumbnail. Requested size is 171x128 (as per Curt's order). You may want to submit another one which doesn't cut off the nose. ;-) FYI: There are some ugly transparency artifacts under fgfs 0.9.11. m. PS: files are under GPL, as confirmed by Markus - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGk+BVWmK6ng/aMNkRCm15AJ9H6tE/GGgxpfgMRa/+pq+FmGTUxwCgtTBH ySbUd8+ARfk1GAZMCnyGwc0= =Pf1h -END PGP SIGNATURE- - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenSceneGraph 2.0
On 07/10/2007 01:40 PM, Csaba Halász wrote: Maybe try the sed hack with a shorter prefix, such as replacing _ZNSt6vector with _ZNSt6vectorX. Note that it is a pretty brutal thing to do for the whole binary, and might break it in a million ways. 1) It's more likely to work if the replacement string is the same length as the replaced string, such as: s/_ZNSt6vector/_ZNSt6vectoX/ not s/_ZNSt6vector/_ZNSt6vectorX/ That's an important part of the trick, if you're going to be using sed to hack binary files. 2) A prefix that short is brutal indeed. In fglrx_dri there are 57 symbols that begin with _ZNSt6vector ... I thought there was only one function that had been identified as a troublemaker. 3) I would try strings /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so | grep vector.*reserve expecting to see something like _ZNSt6vectorI13ShUniformInfoSaIS0_EE7reserveEj _ZNSt6vectorIi14pool_allocatorIiEE7reserveEj *_ZNSt6vectorIiSaIiEE7reserveEj vector::reserve of which the one that most resembles the starred version is the one that needs to be hacked. Unless fglrx_dri has more than one bug :-( ... - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Property path... again...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Maik Justus wrote: Hi, just for clarification: The leading slash has no influence, if a property if transferred over the MP-protocol (that is a hard-coded list). But if you use an absolute path instead of a relative, then the animation depends only on the absolute path, even if the model is a MP-aircraft. If the players-aircraft has the same property defined as the MP-aircraft is referencing (e.g. the player uses the same aircraft), than the MP-aircraft will show the same animations as the players aircraft. This is valid for every animation, not only elevator and gear. Therefore every aircraft should do relative references to the property wherever it is possible. Indeed, therefore I see no reason not to fix all properties. AnMaster -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGlK/rWmK6ng/aMNkRCm6cAJ93uVEtkJL6ekyzj3drIwTfdaShOACgwMnT FU4hRwT3BJzLknb3vihdgMQ= =IR36 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Property path... again...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 gh.robin wrote: On Wed 11 July 2007 10:18, Maik Justus wrote: Hi, just for clarification: The leading slash has no influence, if a property if transferred over the MP-protocol (that is a hard-coded list). But if you use an absolute path instead of a relative, then the animation depends only on the absolute path, even if the model is a MP-aircraft. If the players-aircraft has the same property defined as the MP-aircraft is referencing (e.g. the player uses the same aircraft), than the MP-aircraft will show the same animations as the players aircraft. This is valid for every animation, not only elevator and gear. Therefore every aircraft should do relative references to the property wherever it is possible. Maik That is exactly what i wonder, with the increase of aircraft animations, there is , and will be, more and more, accurate animations, = for instance highly detailed gears with compression animation, struts, actuators, connecting-rods, . (i have a model not yet in CVS which has such costly animations), within MP , which such animations we are going to a huge cpu consumption with significant loss of FPS, i have with my computer that problem, which is still acceptable. Could it be possible , to limit the MP animation only to property surface position property/, the model creators will take care of i. When making the animations, he could decide if one specification is valuable for the pilot only or valuable for both the pilot and the MP visual observer. I find correct gear very important. Seeing aircrafts taxing around without gear extended, or gear that isn't resting on ground correctly, is quite irritating. Also isn't it possible to create a low res model that will be used for AI aircrafts? Regards AnMaster -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGlL9uWmK6ng/aMNkRCqaoAKCJeE4+bGze4EB4EnT0LM6wF3aY1gCeNlMy 3GRssVoqb2DU28ze0VxqwXc= =G3Ti -END PGP SIGNATURE- - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Property path... again...
On Wed 11 July 2007 10:18, Maik Justus wrote: Hi, just for clarification: The leading slash has no influence, if a property if transferred over the MP-protocol (that is a hard-coded list). But if you use an absolute path instead of a relative, then the animation depends only on the absolute path, even if the model is a MP-aircraft. If the players-aircraft has the same property defined as the MP-aircraft is referencing (e.g. the player uses the same aircraft), than the MP-aircraft will show the same animations as the players aircraft. This is valid for every animation, not only elevator and gear. Therefore every aircraft should do relative references to the property wherever it is possible. Maik That is exactly what i wonder, with the increase of aircraft animations, there is , and will be, more and more, accurate animations, = for instance highly detailed gears with compression animation, struts, actuators, connecting-rods, . (i have a model not yet in CVS which has such costly animations), within MP , which such animations we are going to a huge cpu consumption with significant loss of FPS, i have with my computer that problem, which is still acceptable. Could it be possible , to limit the MP animation only to property surface position property/, the model creators will take care of i. When making the animations, he could decide if one specification is valuable for the pilot only or valuable for both the pilot and the MP visual observer. Regards -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Property path... again...
On Wed 11 July 2007 13:30, AnMaster wrote: gh.robin wrote: That is exactly what i wonder, with the increase of aircraft animations, there is , and will be, more and more, accurate animations, = for instance highly detailed gears with compression animation, struts, actuators, connecting-rods, . (i have a model not yet in CVS which has such costly animations), within MP , which such animations we are going to a huge cpu consumption with significant loss of FPS, i have with my computer that problem, which is still acceptable. Could it be possible , to limit the MP animation only to property surface position property/, the model creators will take care of i. When making the animations, he could decide if one specification is valuable for the pilot only or valuable for both the pilot and the MP visual observer. I find correct gear very important. Seeing aircrafts taxing around without gear extended, or gear that isn't resting on ground correctly, is quite irritating. Also isn't it possible to create a low res model that will be used for AI aircrafts? Regards AnMaster oh, right i don't mean we must keep the landing gear up. (or down permanently) that MP animation is necessary. Going further on the landing gear animation (we could have the same request with some other aircraft component if the aircraft is highly details), i make the difference between Landing gear UP/DOWN animation, and compression animations. Compression animation is costly and not very useful to be seen in an MP environment, so it could be only seen on the user/pilot side. This is an example. -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Property path... again...
On Wednesday 11 July 2007 12:59, gh.robin wrote: Compression animation is costly and not very useful to be seen in an MP environment, so it could be only seen on the user/pilot side. Is that really true though? Consider especially how many MP aircraft are visible at any one time; even at a comparatively busy airport like KSFO, there are very few aircraft being animated, with a very limited list of properties. I would be very surprised indeed if such animations were causing a significant slowdown, but I'm willing to be corrected by a graphics guru... Much more significant I'd guess is the fact that some of our models are at last becoming nicely detailed and necessarily texture heavy. The mechanism to deal with this is already in place, just not much used; one can create an AI version of the aircraft. I will do this for the Bocian, which is reasonably texture heavy (and will get heavier, for which I make no apologies whatsoever). Since the bulk of the textures are for internal details, the AI model can look identical from the outside but be much less disruptive in an MP environment. Cheers, AJ PS, with OSG we can use JPEG textures, which give a drastic texture size reduction... - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Property path... again...
Hi Gérad, gh.robin schrieb am 11.07.2007 13:59: Compression animation is costly and not very useful to be seen in an MP environment, so it could be only seen on the user/pilot side. Now all animations are done on all MP aircrafts every frame. If the property is not transferred over the MP protocol, the animation will be constant and therefore not visible as an animation, but it is as costly as on the users aircraft. The only way to avoid this, is to make a copy of the aircrafts xml file in the AI/aircraft/[aircraft_name] folder and remove all the unneeded animations from that file. You can even load another 3D-model by this file (lower poly, lower textures, no interior), and some LOD would be nice, too. Maik - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenSceneGraph 2.0
On 7/11/07, John Denker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07/10/2007 01:40 PM, Csaba Halász wrote: Maybe try the sed hack with a shorter prefix, such as replacing _ZNSt6vector with _ZNSt6vectorX. Note that it is a pretty brutal thing to do for the whole binary, and might break it in a million ways. 1) It's more likely to work if the replacement string is the same length as the replaced string, such as: Oh yes, I overlooked that, sorry. Unless fglrx_dri has more than one bug :-( ... Looking at the objdump output, I think not only the reserve methods are hijacked, so this might as well be the case. -- Csaba - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Property path... again...
On 07/11/2007 07:26 AM, gh.robin wrote: Could it be possible , to limit the MP animation only to property surface position property/, the model creators will take care of i. When making the animations, he could decide if one specification is valuable for the pilot only or valuable for both the pilot and the MP visual observer. The sentiment of the question makes sense, but the details do not. The job that needs doing doesn't depend on MP versus pilot. It depends on point-of-view (PoV) and field-of-view (FoV). -- In some high-wing aircraft, the gear can be seen from the cockpit, even in non-MP simulations. -- Cockpit view is only one of several viewing modes. The outside of the aircraft is visible from many of the modes, even in non-MP simulations. From such considerations it is easy to conclude that *) The job is to render whatever is within the field of view, to an appropriate degree of resolution (based on the zoom factor), and not waste time on whatever is not within the field of view. *) Yes, the job needs to be done. *) The job needs to be done by the graphics subsystem, not by the author of the model. There are an infinitude of different points of view, and it is not possible to account for them in the model file. The model file should specify the 3D positional relationships of the parts, and the graphics system needs to figure out which parts need to be rendered and which don't. In an M-player simulation, there will be M different views of the same situation, but that doesn't change the nature of the job. It just means there are M copies of the same basic job. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Property path... again...
Hi Maik, Am Mittwoch, den 11.07.2007, 14:42 +0200 schrieb Maik Justus: Hi Gérad, gh.robin schrieb am 11.07.2007 13:59: Compression animation is costly and not very useful to be seen in an MP environment, so it could be only seen on the user/pilot side. Now all animations are done on all MP aircrafts every frame. If the property is not transferred over the MP protocol, the animation will be constant and therefore not visible as an animation, but it is as costly as on the users aircraft. The only way to avoid this, is to make a copy of the aircrafts xml file in the AI/aircraft/[aircraft_name] folder and remove all the unneeded animations from that file. You can even load another 3D-model by this file (lower poly, lower textures, no interior), and some LOD would be nice, too. what about liveries? I've tested (a while ago) MP with the bf109 which uses liveries and it didn't show any livery, just plain white. As a workaround I intended to put a fixed livery low-poly model in AI/Aircraft (didn't do it up to now, sorry...). Maybe there could/should be a unified property for Liveries over MP? Greetings Detlef Maik - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Datcom+ 2.1 Release annoucement
Try downloading it, installing it, go out to the Datcom directory (folder on
your desktop), find the Examples directory, double-clickon Citation.dcm,
then when that process finishes, double click on Citation.ac and
citation.lfi. 5 minutes tops. It is SO easy now on Windows. Now, building
your own model, that's another story ;-}
That Windows installed damn near killed me. I was working 12-14 hours a day,
restoring Ghost images of WIndows XP or Vista, occassionally having to
rebuild my disk from scratch. I have WIndows XP with and without Notepad++
installed, Vista with and without Notepad, and Debian, all able to be
loaded. I really check ed this system out. I had a guy in Germany that was
'helping', but he complained about stuff that I just wasn't seeing. There
are some differences in the Windows XP installation ('Program Files' becomes
'Programmes'). Turns out that his system was minorally hosed, and I wasted
about 12 hours finxing something that wasn't a problem.
ANyway, give it a try.
B
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Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Datcom+ 2.1 Release annoucement
Dang, I really need to try this package out. I'm going to need to take a
couple of vacation days or something though. Getting hammered this entire
summer from all sides.
Made some progress with my UAV altitude hold controller this morning before
work. I have a plot and a movie of the flightgear replay under today's
entry at this url:
http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/UAV/MicroGear1/
Full res movie (so you can read the gauges) is here:
http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/tmp/mnav-alt-hold.mpeg
Regards,
Curt.
On 7/11/07, Bill Galbraith mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am happy to annouce the release of of Datcom+ 2.1. This has been a LOT of
work packaging these tools into nice installation packages, for Windows XP
and Windows Vista for point and click people, Cygwin under Windows XP and
Vista for the smells-like-Linux group, and Linux (compiled under Debian).
For those of you that don't know what Datcom is, it is an United States Air
Force program that predicts aircraft performance characteristics based on
the geometric shape. There are three visualization tools associated with the
Datcom+ package, two for plotting coefficients and one for plotting the
three dimensional model.
The download packages and installation instructions can be found at
http://holycows.net/datcom/
This will be the LAST Datcom-related broadcast message on FlightGear and
JSBSim. There is a Yahoo group for Digital_Datcom at
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_datcom/. There are only 11
members right now, but I encourage you to join the group if you are
interested in Datcom. Email traffic is almost non-existant.
Bill
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