[Flightgear-devel] RFC: Committing conditional compile patch for ATCDCL

2009-12-22 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi All, As we've discussed before, I'm working on merging the old ATC/AI code from David Luff (ATCDCL) with our AIModels system. As part of the rewrite, I have added a new "--disable-atcdcl" option to my configure script. The default behavior is that ATCDCL will be enabled. Disabling the build

Re: [Flightgear-devel] auto-coordination broken

2009-12-22 Thread leee
On Tuesday 22 Dec 2009, Alan Teeder wrote: [snip...] > The Ercoupe and certain other aircraft (e.g. TSR2) may have an > aileron-rudder interconnect, but this is very aircraft specific > and should be part of the aircraft FCS model. The YASim BAC-TSR2 doesn't/didn't/shouldn't have an aileron-rudde

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Generic autopilot issues

2009-12-22 Thread Scott Hamilton
On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 14:10 +, James Turner wrote: > A few things that will certainly help: > - not adding the departure airport if no runway is selected > - not adding the departure airport for an in-air route activation Perhaps a quicker workaround, just set the /autopilot/route-manag

Re: [Flightgear-devel] parking.xml files under scenery/Airports

2009-12-22 Thread Martin Spott
Durk Talsma wrote: > the file for LFPG is probably still the original one that I made; I'm not > sure, off the top of my head, where KNUQ.parking.xml comes from. But, I'll > have a look tonight/tomorrow. Indeed, the 'L/F/P/LFPG.parking.xml' is certainly still the old one, something of December

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken,

2009-12-22 Thread S Andreason
James Turner wrote: > Okay, so that's where the bug has come from, I need to fix the logic to only > drive this property when GPS 'leg' mode is active. > > Yes, and it works now. Thank you very much! Stewart -- This

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken

2009-12-22 Thread S Andreason
Stuart Buchanan wrote: > The wing leveler and heading autopilot that are part of the KAP140 work > well for the c172p. However, using the generic autopilot instead is not > something that I would expect to work, so they should be disabled > for the c172p. Agreed. And the help keys removed from t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] parking.xml files under scenery/Airports

2009-12-22 Thread Durk Talsma
On Tuesday 22 December 2009 06:10:48 pm Csaba Halász wrote: > Exactly. So the file scenery/Airports/[I]/[C]/[A]/[ICAO].parking.xml > will *never* be loaded, as FG only looks for groundnet.xml. > parking.xml files should only live under AI/Airports and not under > scenery/Airports. Hence my questio

Re: [Flightgear-devel] parking.xml files under scenery/Airports

2009-12-22 Thread Csaba Halász
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Durk Talsma wrote: > > Whenever this boolean property is set to false, ground network data will be > read from AI/Airports/[ICAO], and when set to true, it is read from > scenery/Airports/[I]/[C]/[A]/[ICAO].groundnet.xml. Exactly. So the file scenery/Airports/[I]/

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Generic autopilot issues

2009-12-22 Thread Peter Brown
James, >From what I've read, and like the original, your route manager uses the >airport center point as the destination. What is the reason for selecting a >runway? If the destination point is center-runway of the specified runway, >I'm not sure of the benefit over center-airport. Like you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Generic autopilot issues

2009-12-22 Thread Curtis Olson
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 8:10 AM, James Turner wrote: > What do you think would be a sensible course of action, in the situation > you describe? Even if I choose not to add the departure airport for in-air > route activation, there's no guarantee that the first route waypoint is > where you actuall

Re: [Flightgear-devel] auto-coordination broken

2009-12-22 Thread James Turner
On 22 Dec 2009, at 12:23, John Denker wrote: > I won't bother to ask why some people consider a discussion > of auto-coordination to be "hijacking" an auto-coordination > thread. I think that comment was because you replied to the 'autopilot broken' thread to start the auto-coordination discuss

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Generic autopilot issues

2009-12-22 Thread James Turner
On 21 Dec 2009, at 18:55, Curtis Olson wrote: > What do you think would be a sensible course of action, in the situation you > describe? Even if I choose not to add the departure airport for in-air route > activation, there's no guarantee that the first route waypoint is where you > actually w

Re: [Flightgear-devel] parking.xml files under scenery/Airports

2009-12-22 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi Alex, Csaba, On Tuesday 22 December 2009 12:44:41 pm Alex D-HUND wrote: > On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:17:03 +0100 > > Csaba Halász wrote: > > I wonder if these files are there by mistake or if there is some reason. > > Only thing I know 'bout them is Martin's mail bout this: > http://sourceforge.n

Re: [Flightgear-devel] auto-coordination broken

2009-12-22 Thread John Denker
On 12/22/2009 02:35 AM, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > I think all that is required is that we make clear that auto-coordination is > designed to help people without any rudder control axis, and that a proper > rudder axis (or even a twist axis on a joystick) is preferable. On 12/21/2009 08:59 PM, Cur

Re: [Flightgear-devel] parking.xml files under scenery/Airports

2009-12-22 Thread Alex D-HUND
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:17:03 +0100 Csaba Halász wrote: > I wonder if these files are there by mistake or if there is some reason. Only thing I know 'bout them is Martin's mail bout this: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_name=g87kri%24u4q%241%40osprey.mgras.de hth Alex -- Al

Re: [Flightgear-devel] auto-coordination broken

2009-12-22 Thread Alan Teeder
Moving the joystick or throttle should override the autopilot/autothrotle and cause it to disconnect. Yaw dampers, stick pushers and other stability augmentation demands are added to the pilots´s joystick/rudder input, they would not normally override it. In a "training mode" there is a case

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken

2009-12-22 Thread Stuart Buchanan
S Andreason wrote: > >> configured autopilots like the senecaII, c172p, PA24-250. > >> > > Well yes, but I expected the default aircraft to work. > Since the manual and help windows give instructions on using Ctrl-A, > Ctrl-W, > Ctrl-H, etc, and F11 does open the autopilot settings, I would

Re: [Flightgear-devel] auto-coordination broken

2009-12-22 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Ron Jensen wrote: > > > Are you sure you don't have some noisy input > > > device like a joystick or pedals connected that might affect the > > > rudder axis? > > > If two input axes are bound to the same control the last write wins. > > > > Thanks for the hint. That helps. It makes sense fro