Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 33, Issue 26
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:23:59 +0100 From: gerard robin ghma...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Licensing and disclaimers for aircraft models To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: 200901241323.59854.ghma...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Sat, 24 Jan 2009, gerard robin wrote: We had it (some years ago) the first time data update more pleasant when there was a specific directory which contained the stable Aircraft. Now with more than 230 models within CVS, using model based CVS, is impossible, since the newbe has to dig into it in order to find a model working, but if he is lucky. Getting the right model is a game within the game. Even me , i am lost :( I am tired of the negative attitudes of some. CVS is a place of study, research, development. It is not there to the users. Please. The stable official FG contains a minimum of aircraft representing a wide diversity. That's enough. And there is no place to get lost. Those who choose to recover the aircrafts CVS do so knowingly. There is therefore no criticism to make on this subject. Except, of course, want to criticize for the sake of criticism and damage the work of others. Bests regards. Emmanuel P.S. Free software is also freedom of choice. And more there will be planes, more users will have the freedom to choose. -- BARANGER Emmanuel http://helijah.free.fr http://helijah.free.fr/flightgear/hangar.htm http://helijah.free.fr/flightgear/H4-Hercules.htm http://helijah.free.fr/flightgear/flightgear.htm http://www.jamendo.com/fr/album/27163 -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 33, Issue 26
On samedi 24 janvier 2009, BARANGER Emmanuel wrote: I am tired of the negative attitudes of some. Have some rest :) :):) CVS is a place of study, research, development. It is not there to the users. Please. The stable official FG contains a minimum of aircraft representing a wide diversity. That's enough. And there is no place to get lost. Those who choose to recover the aircrafts CVS do so knowingly. There is therefore no criticism to make on this subject. Except, of course, want to criticize for the sake of criticism and damage the work of others. Bests regards. Emmanuel P.S. Free software is also freedom of choice. And more there will be planes, more users will have the freedom to choose. -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ J'ai décidé d'être heureux parce que c'est bon pour la santé. Voltaire -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 33, Issue 26
gerard robin wrote: On samedi 24 janvier 2009, BARANGER Emmanuel wrote: I am tired of the negative attitudes of some. Have some rest :) :):) You don't do anyone a favour by belitteling Emmanuel's statement. I propose you'd better think about it, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 33, Issue 26
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.netwrote: gerard robin wrote: On samedi 24 janvier 2009, BARANGER Emmanuel wrote: I am tired of the negative attitudes of some. Have some rest :) :):) You don't do anyone a favour by belitteling Emmanuel's statement. I propose you'd better think about it, Hey guys, my 4 7 year old girls are running around the house today with not enough sleep acting this same way. Please do not make me have to police two places at once. :-) Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 33, Issue 26
I am tired of the negative attitudes of some. CVS is a place of study, research, development. It is not there to the users. Please. The stable official FG contains a minimum of aircraft representing a wide diversity. That's enough. And there is no place to get lost. Those who choose to recover the aircrafts CVS do so knowingly. There is therefore no criticism to make on this subject. Except, of course, want to criticize for the sake of criticism and damage the work of others. Bests regards. Emmanuel P.S. Free software is also freedom of choice. And more there will be planes, more users will have the freedom to choose. -- BARANGER Emmanuel Hi Emmanuel , My thoughts were to move the extra or non sellable aircraft out of cvs /data , not to erase them completely I am working on the Boeing 777 , so this issue is of some interest to me Cheers -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 33, Issue 26
On samedi 24 janvier 2009, syd adams wrote: Hi Emmanuel , My thoughts were to move the extra or non sellable aircraft out of cvs /data , not to erase them completely I am working on the Boeing 777 , so this issue is of some interest to me Cheers Hi, Syd don't be wrong you were not the Guy 'SOME' whom the insult was launched in that talk. I was ... the guy :) My point ( before the eb-heilja shout) , was to remind that period when we had a specific stable aircraft directory. This was an advantage since anybody who wanted an accurate Aircraft, could download from it. CVS has the disadvantage to offer everything from the less achieved (skeleton) to the most accurate in the same tin, for instance none of mine is right (and some of then do not fly). Then it is up to the luck to get the good one. That is not fair for modelers who spend, many, many hours, to work on a model which the accuracy is very hight. AND, in these coming day, if MSFS is really out, who among the MSFS users coming to FG, looking for an aircraft, will be enough lucky to get an achieved model among the 230 ones ? In addition to my point. You are right, we could have -a sellable = fully GPL model directory -a not sellable = not fully GPL model directory Regarding CVS directory there is no more problem with it, since we can get individual aircraft from it with only a little script Cheers -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ J'ai décidé d'être heureux parce que c'est bon pour la santé. Voltaire -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 33, Issue 26
* gerard robin -- Saturday 24 January 2009:
My point [...] was to remind that period when we had a specific
stable aircraft directory.
When was that? I'm FlightGear developer since March 2001, and in
that time we never had such a directory. And at that time we only
had one aircraft, so I doubt it was before that.
What we got at some point was a --min-status option that could
and can be specified in addition to --show-aircraft.
--min-status={alpha,beta,early-production,production}
Looks like that doesn't work anymore, though.
m.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 33, Issue 26
well not if it has the word Boeing in it , if I understand correctly. But I have no objection to removing or modifying any of my aircraft if they might possibly cause problems, or don't fit the GPL licence Cheers On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Stefan Seifert n...@detonation.orgwrote: On Saturday, 24. January 2009, syd adams wrote: My thoughts were to move the extra or non sellable aircraft out of cvs /data , not to erase them completely I am working on the Boeing 777 , so this issue is of some interest to me Why is it, since the 777 is clearly as sellable as any other FG aircraft? Stefan -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
