Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ship 3d models

2008-03-30 Thread Ron Jensen 

On Sun, 2008-03-30 at 21:52 +0200, Detlef Faber wrote:
> I "misused" it too and made it usable as a fully steerable vehicle. I
> added a modified internal view (like the Albatross). 
> 
> http://sol2500.net/flightgear/ships.zip
> 
> Also included in the archiv is my first try on a usable ship (the Oscar
> Sette FDM is based upon it). It features a Heli Deck, which I hope will
> someday be usable in Multiplayer.
> 
> Known issues are completely missing instrumentation and interiour, and
> the rudder not being inverted while engines are in reverse. 
> ... and a lot more ... .
> 
> Greetings


I've slightly updated my web-site.  All my Oscar Sette files are now in
http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/OscarSette/

The latest update is
http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/OscarSette/Oscar-Sette.tgz

It contains my latest model:
- Rotated 180 degrees... (did I really model it backward?)
- Redid deck textures to be powers of two (and remapped decks)
- Added railing
- Added details to the rear the ship

Also contains Detlef's Yasim ship modified for my model changes
Also contains AndersG's AI scenerio to use it as an AI carrier.
(see http://www.gidenstam.org/FlightGear/misc/Carrier_over_MP/ )


My weekend shipbuilding fest is coming to a close.  I'm looking for
models of the J-hoists, articulating cranes, ships boats, winches,
anchors, etc.

There are some good pictures on Curt's site:
http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/PhotoAlbums/OscarSette2008/

NOAA's pages for
Oscar Sette and her sister ships
http://www.moc.noaa.gov/os/index.html
http://www.moc.noaa.gov/mt/specs/deck.htm
http://www.moc.noaa.gov/gu/specs/deck.htm
http://www.moc.noaa.gov/gu/specs/boats.htm
http://www.moc.noaa.gov/ka/specs/deck.htm

Ron






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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ship 3d models

2008-03-30 Thread Ron Jensen 

On Sun, 2008-03-30 at 21:52 +0200, Detlef Faber wrote:
> Am Samstag, den 29.03.2008, 23:41 -0600 schrieb Ron Jensen:
> > On Sun, 2008-03-30 at 06:19 +0200, Georg Vollnhals wrote:
> > > Ron Jensen schrieb:
> > > > I jumped in and started the Hull and cabin spaces of the Oscar Sette.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-01.jpg
> > > > http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-02.jpg
> > > > http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-03.jpg
> > > >
> > > > http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os_models.tgz
> > > >
> > > > (Curt, the link has been freshly updated)
> > > >
> > > > I'm going to work on adding railings and detailing the fore deck next.
> > > > If someone wants to build the cranes, winches, and ships boats...
> > > >
> > > >   
> > > Hi Ron,
> > > 
> > > although this ship is your nice little present to Curtis I "misused" it
> > > already to practise some fun helicopter-shiplandings.
> > > 
> I "misused" it too and made it usable as a fully steerable vehicle. I
> added a modified internal view (like the Albatross). 
> 
> http://sol2500.net/flightgear/ships.zip
> 
> Also included in the archiv is my first try on a usable ship (the Oscar
> Sette FDM is based upon it). It features a Heli Deck, which I hope will
> someday be usable in Multiplayer.
> 
> Known issues are completely missing instrumentation and interiour, and
> the rudder not being inverted while engines are in reverse. 
> ... and a lot more ... .
> 
> Greetings


Driving the ship now, too cool!  Thanks

I realized today I modelled the ship facing the wrong way.  This has
been corrected, and I'll upload the latest model later today.

Ron



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ship 3d models

2008-03-30 Thread Detlef Faber 
Am Samstag, den 29.03.2008, 23:41 -0600 schrieb Ron Jensen:
> On Sun, 2008-03-30 at 06:19 +0200, Georg Vollnhals wrote:
> > Ron Jensen schrieb:
> > > I jumped in and started the Hull and cabin spaces of the Oscar Sette.
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-01.jpg
> > > http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-02.jpg
> > > http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-03.jpg
> > >
> > > http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os_models.tgz
> > >
> > > (Curt, the link has been freshly updated)
> > >
> > > I'm going to work on adding railings and detailing the fore deck next.
> > > If someone wants to build the cranes, winches, and ships boats...
> > >
> > >   
> > Hi Ron,
> > 
> > although this ship is your nice little present to Curtis I "misused" it
> > already to practise some fun helicopter-shiplandings.
> > 
I "misused" it too and made it usable as a fully steerable vehicle. I
added a modified internal view (like the Albatross). 

http://sol2500.net/flightgear/ships.zip

Also included in the archiv is my first try on a usable ship (the Oscar
Sette FDM is based upon it). It features a Heli Deck, which I hope will
someday be usable in Multiplayer.

Known issues are completely missing instrumentation and interiour, and
the rudder not being inverted while engines are in reverse. 
... and a lot more ... .

Greetings

> > http://home.arcor.de/vollnhals-bremen/Sette/OESette.jpg
> > 
> > If you GPL this model it would be a nice basic ship for several
> > modifications, ie. some other painting and adding a landing platform
> > there where the BO105 has landed - I would do this over the next week if
> > you agree.
> > 
> > Thank you for this nice model as there aren't so many usable ship-models
> > for FG until now.
> > 
> > Georg EDDW
> > 
> 
> Hi Georg,
> 
> Yes, I am releasing this model ( Sette3.ac, funnels.png and hull.png )
> under the GPL.  And the link has just been updated with the latest wip
> changes http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os_models.tgz
> 
> I believe the deck textures (bridge.png and the *_deck.pngs) came from a
> public domain source but am not 100% sure... Curt?  
> 
> Its funny, I just spent the last hour changing up the aft deck spaces.
> After a few hours studing photos and the deck plans, I just made the
> deck you landed on about a meter lower.
> 
> Your welcome to do some repaints, none of the vertical walls have
> texture mappings yet.  I think I have all the windows and doors cut out.
> (If you want to animate the doors, I set the "object center" to the
> hinge position) so it could be time to map them.
> 
> I am trying to decide whether to punch holes in the hull and model the
> bracing on the bow, or just fake it with textures...
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ship 3d models

2008-03-30 Thread LeeE 
On Sunday 30 March 2008 07:55, Curtis Olson wrote:
[snip...]

> Today I was seeing a lot of little debris fragments from the
> ship.  Little bits of plastic the size of a pea maybe, and then
> occasionally some bigger chunks.  I saw several "leaf" size bits.
>  I saw something about the size of a cigarette lighter.  And I
> saw a chunk of net.  All this on a foggy day, poking my head
> above deck a couple times through out the day for a few minutes,
> and then only looking within 20 feet of the ship.  Kind of sad to
> see so many bits of junk floating around out here if you are
> looking for it.  We are a long ways from being able to walk on
> top of it, but bits and pieces of plastic and net continually
> float by.  I've posted pictures from today here:
>
> http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/PhotoAlbums/OscarSette2008/Osca
>r%20Sette%20Day%2006/
>
> I have to say, I've really enjoyed this cruise so far.  Today was
> Tex-Mex day and I ate at least one tamale too many.  I haven't
> missed seeing land. The ocean and sky has been totally different
> every day.  One day we had the brightest rainbow I've ever seen,
> today we were socked in with fog.
>
> This evening I played guitar hero for the first time, and "I
> rock!" at least on an easy song. :-)
>
> Curt.

It's quite possible, if not probable, that you'll see some larger 
debris before long - shipping containers.

I understand that quite a few of these are lost from container ships 
in rough weather each year and those that don't sink immediately 
can end up floating around the oceans for quite some time and 
present a serious risk to shipping.

These are especially dangerous to smaller vessels as they're nearly 
completely submerged, with just their tops awash, making them very 
difficult to spot without radar, in spite of their size.

Because they're hardly affected by wind the greatest factor in where 
they go, in the open ocean, are the same currents that are carrying 
the bits of plastic and fishing nets that you're seeing, so I'd be 
a bit surprised if there aren't a few in the convergence zone.

LeeE

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ship 3d models

2008-03-29 Thread Curtis Olson 
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Ron Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Yes, I am releasing this model ( Sette3.ac, funnels.png and hull.png )
> under the GPL.  And the link has just been updated with the latest wip
> changes http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os_models.tgz
>
> I believe the deck textures (bridge.png and the *_deck.pngs) came from a
> public domain source but am not 100% sure... Curt?


Pretty sure it's ok to use.

The other guys on the ship that have seen the model think it's pretty cool.
After wandering around the ship for a week now it seem very accurate in
terms of scale and layout.  The ship could make a pretty cool fps level.  We
are at W158:00 N34:40 in case anyone is keeping track ... even with
somewhere just north of Los Angeles.

OT ...

It's been foggy all day, so some time tonight we are going to turn around
and try to get out of the fog by morning.  Tomorrow will be the first day of
serious UAS operations.

Today I was seeing a lot of little debris fragments from the ship.  Little
bits of plastic the size of a pea maybe, and then occasionally some bigger
chunks.  I saw several "leaf" size bits.  I saw something about the size of
a cigarette lighter.  And I saw a chunk of net.  All this on a foggy day,
poking my head above deck a couple times through out the day for a few
minutes, and then only looking within 20 feet of the ship.  Kind of sad to
see so many bits of junk floating around out here if you are looking for
it.  We are a long ways from being able to walk on top of it, but bits and
pieces of plastic and net continually float by.  I've posted pictures from
today here:

http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/PhotoAlbums/OscarSette2008/Oscar%20Sette%20Day%2006/

I have to say, I've really enjoyed this cruise so far.  Today was Tex-Mex
day and I ate at least one tamale too many.  I haven't missed seeing land.
The ocean and sky has been totally different every day.  One day we had the
brightest rainbow I've ever seen, today we were socked in with fog.

This evening I played guitar hero for the first time, and "I rock!" at least
on an easy song. :-)

Curt.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ship 3d models

2008-03-29 Thread Ron Jensen 

On Sun, 2008-03-30 at 06:19 +0200, Georg Vollnhals wrote:
> Ron Jensen schrieb:
> > I jumped in and started the Hull and cabin spaces of the Oscar Sette.
> >
> >
> > http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-01.jpg
> > http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-02.jpg
> > http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-03.jpg
> >
> > http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os_models.tgz
> >
> > (Curt, the link has been freshly updated)
> >
> > I'm going to work on adding railings and detailing the fore deck next.
> > If someone wants to build the cranes, winches, and ships boats...
> >
> >   
> Hi Ron,
> 
> although this ship is your nice little present to Curtis I "misused" it
> already to practise some fun helicopter-shiplandings.
> 
> http://home.arcor.de/vollnhals-bremen/Sette/OESette.jpg
> 
> If you GPL this model it would be a nice basic ship for several
> modifications, ie. some other painting and adding a landing platform
> there where the BO105 has landed - I would do this over the next week if
> you agree.
> 
> Thank you for this nice model as there aren't so many usable ship-models
> for FG until now.
> 
> Georg EDDW
> 

Hi Georg,

Yes, I am releasing this model ( Sette3.ac, funnels.png and hull.png )
under the GPL.  And the link has just been updated with the latest wip
changes http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os_models.tgz

I believe the deck textures (bridge.png and the *_deck.pngs) came from a
public domain source but am not 100% sure... Curt?  

Its funny, I just spent the last hour changing up the aft deck spaces.
After a few hours studing photos and the deck plans, I just made the
deck you landed on about a meter lower.

Your welcome to do some repaints, none of the vertical walls have
texture mappings yet.  I think I have all the windows and doors cut out.
(If you want to animate the doors, I set the "object center" to the
hinge position) so it could be time to map them.

I am trying to decide whether to punch holes in the hull and model the
bracing on the bow, or just fake it with textures...

Ron





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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ship 3d models

2008-03-29 Thread Georg Vollnhals 
Ron Jensen schrieb:
> I jumped in and started the Hull and cabin spaces of the Oscar Sette.
>
>
> http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-01.jpg
> http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-02.jpg
> http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-03.jpg
>
> http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-models.tgz
>
> (Curt, the link has been freshly updated)
>
> I'm going to work on adding railings and detailing the fore deck next.
> If someone wants to build the cranes, winches, and ships boats...
>
>   
Hi Ron,

although this ship is your nice little present to Curtis I "misused" it
already to practise some fun helicopter-shiplandings.

http://home.arcor.de/vollnhals-bremen/Sette/OESette.jpg

If you GPL this model it would be a nice basic ship for several
modifications, ie. some other painting and adding a landing platform
there where the BO105 has landed - I would do this over the next week if
you agree.

Thank you for this nice model as there aren't so many usable ship-models
for FG until now.

Georg EDDW



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ship 3d models

2008-03-29 Thread Curtis Olson 
Hey Ron!

Wow!  Really looking great!  The bridge window cutouts and the markings on
the side really make a huge difference!

Thanks!

Curt.


On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Ron Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I got the punctuation wrong.  Link is an underscore, not a dash.
> http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os_models.tgz
>
> Sorry.
>
> On Sat, 2008-03-29 at 12:46 -0600, Ron Jensen wrote:
> > I jumped in and started the Hull and cabin spaces of the Oscar Sette.
> >
> >
> > http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-01.jpg
> > http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-02.jpg
> > http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-03.jpg
> >
> > http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-models.tgz
> >
> > (Curt, the link has been freshly updated)
> >
> > I'm going to work on adding railings and detailing the fore deck next.
> > If someone wants to build the cranes, winches, and ships boats...
> >
> > There are some shots of the Ocar Sette as she is now on Curt's webspace:
> >
> >
> http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/PhotoAlbums/OscarSette2008/Oscar%20Sette%20Day%2001/
> >
> http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/PhotoAlbums/OscarSette2008/Oscar%20Sette%20Day%2002/
> >
> http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/PhotoAlbums/OscarSette2008/Oscar%20Sette%20Day%2003/
> >
> http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/PhotoAlbums/OscarSette2008/Oscar%20Sette%20Day%2004/
> >
> http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/PhotoAlbums/OscarSette2008/Oscar%20Sette%20Day%2005/
> >
> > Ron
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 22:11 -0600, Ron Jensen wrote:
> > > I did a little quick research on the Oscar Sette.  It was originally
> the
> > > USNS Adventurous (T-AGOS-13), a Stalwart class Modified Tactical
> > > Auxiliary General Ocean Surveillance Ship of the United States Navy.
> > >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalwart_class_tactical_auxiliary_general_ocean_surveillance_ships
> > >
> > > There is a (not-free) model of T-AGOS-12 here
> > > http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-ocean-surveillance-ships/367866
> > >
> > > I was unable to find any top view drawings or deck plans.
> > >
> > > Ron
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 12:53 -1000, Curtis Olson wrote:
> > > > I was just perusing our model inventory a bit, and was curious if we
> > > > have a 3d model of an ocean ship approximately 70m long?  And I
> don't
> > > > want to ask for favors here or burn anyone's time, but if anyone out
> > > > there was super bored and wanted to throw together a quick
> approximate
> > > > 3d model of the Oscar Sette, I could put it to use over then next 2
> > > > weeks. :-)
> > > >
> > > > Here is the Oscar Sette web site ... currrently on a 16 day ocean
> > > > debris location and recovery mission.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.moc.noaa.gov/os/index.html
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Curt.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ship 3d models

2008-03-29 Thread Ron Jensen 
I got the punctuation wrong.  Link is an underscore, not a dash.
http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os_models.tgz

Sorry.

On Sat, 2008-03-29 at 12:46 -0600, Ron Jensen wrote:
> I jumped in and started the Hull and cabin spaces of the Oscar Sette.
> 
> 
> http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-01.jpg
> http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-02.jpg
> http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-03.jpg
> 
> http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-models.tgz
> 
> (Curt, the link has been freshly updated)
> 
> I'm going to work on adding railings and detailing the fore deck next.
> If someone wants to build the cranes, winches, and ships boats...
> 
> There are some shots of the Ocar Sette as she is now on Curt's webspace:
> 
> http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/PhotoAlbums/OscarSette2008/Oscar%20Sette%20Day%2001/
> http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/PhotoAlbums/OscarSette2008/Oscar%20Sette%20Day%2002/
> http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/PhotoAlbums/OscarSette2008/Oscar%20Sette%20Day%2003/
> http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/PhotoAlbums/OscarSette2008/Oscar%20Sette%20Day%2004/
> http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/PhotoAlbums/OscarSette2008/Oscar%20Sette%20Day%2005/
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 22:11 -0600, Ron Jensen wrote:
> > I did a little quick research on the Oscar Sette.  It was originally the
> > USNS Adventurous (T-AGOS-13), a Stalwart class Modified Tactical
> > Auxiliary General Ocean Surveillance Ship of the United States Navy.
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalwart_class_tactical_auxiliary_general_ocean_surveillance_ships
> > 
> > There is a (not-free) model of T-AGOS-12 here 
> > http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-ocean-surveillance-ships/367866
> > 
> > I was unable to find any top view drawings or deck plans.
> > 
> > Ron
> > 
> > On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 12:53 -1000, Curtis Olson wrote:
> > > I was just perusing our model inventory a bit, and was curious if we
> > > have a 3d model of an ocean ship approximately 70m long?  And I don't
> > > want to ask for favors here or burn anyone's time, but if anyone out
> > > there was super bored and wanted to throw together a quick approximate
> > > 3d model of the Oscar Sette, I could put it to use over then next 2
> > > weeks. :-)
> > > 
> > > Here is the Oscar Sette web site ... currrently on a 16 day ocean
> > > debris location and recovery mission.
> > > 
> > > http://www.moc.noaa.gov/os/index.html
> > > 
> > > Best regards,
> > > 
> > > Curt.
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ship 3d models

2008-03-29 Thread Ron Jensen 
I jumped in and started the Hull and cabin spaces of the Oscar Sette.


http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-01.jpg
http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-02.jpg
http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-03.jpg

http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/os-models.tgz

(Curt, the link has been freshly updated)

I'm going to work on adding railings and detailing the fore deck next.
If someone wants to build the cranes, winches, and ships boats...

There are some shots of the Ocar Sette as she is now on Curt's webspace:

http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/PhotoAlbums/OscarSette2008/Oscar%20Sette%20Day%2001/
http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/PhotoAlbums/OscarSette2008/Oscar%20Sette%20Day%2002/
http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/PhotoAlbums/OscarSette2008/Oscar%20Sette%20Day%2003/
http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/PhotoAlbums/OscarSette2008/Oscar%20Sette%20Day%2004/
http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/PhotoAlbums/OscarSette2008/Oscar%20Sette%20Day%2005/

Ron


On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 22:11 -0600, Ron Jensen wrote:
> I did a little quick research on the Oscar Sette.  It was originally the
> USNS Adventurous (T-AGOS-13), a Stalwart class Modified Tactical
> Auxiliary General Ocean Surveillance Ship of the United States Navy.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalwart_class_tactical_auxiliary_general_ocean_surveillance_ships
> 
> There is a (not-free) model of T-AGOS-12 here 
> http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-ocean-surveillance-ships/367866
> 
> I was unable to find any top view drawings or deck plans.
> 
> Ron
> 
> On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 12:53 -1000, Curtis Olson wrote:
> > I was just perusing our model inventory a bit, and was curious if we
> > have a 3d model of an ocean ship approximately 70m long?  And I don't
> > want to ask for favors here or burn anyone's time, but if anyone out
> > there was super bored and wanted to throw together a quick approximate
> > 3d model of the Oscar Sette, I could put it to use over then next 2
> > weeks. :-)
> > 
> > Here is the Oscar Sette web site ... currrently on a 16 day ocean
> > debris location and recovery mission.
> > 
> > http://www.moc.noaa.gov/os/index.html
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > Curt.
> 
> 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ship 3d models

2008-03-29 Thread Dick Maurer 

Thanks for the Photo's
I'll model the boat tomorrow and post a link on the list later in the evening.
 
Cheers,
 
Dick> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> 
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:27:02 +0100> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ship 3d 
models> > On sam 29 mars 2008, gerard robin wrote:> > > Hello,> > > Here is a 
nice Photo of the ship> > > when she was "Adventurous" T-AGOS-13> > >> > > 
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/USNS_Adventurous_%28T-> > 
>AG OS-13%29.jpg> > >> > > That photo can give an idea of the shape of the 
hull.> > >> > > Cheers> >> > I forgot to give the URL/link which gives the 
right size> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USNS_Adventurous_(T-AGOS-13)> > 
And an other useful photo ( 3/4 top view of the same ship class (Stalwart)> > 
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/USNS_Stalwart_port_quarter_view.jpg>
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ship 3d models

2008-03-28 Thread gerard robin 
On sam 29 mars 2008, gerard robin wrote:
> > Hello,
> > Here is a nice Photo of the ship
> >  when she was "Adventurous" T-AGOS-13
> >
> > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/USNS_Adventurous_%28T-
> >AG OS-13%29.jpg
> >
> > That photo can give an idea of the shape of the hull.
> >
> > Cheers
>
> I forgot to give the URL/link which gives the right size
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USNS_Adventurous_(T-AGOS-13)

And an other useful photo ( 3/4 top view of the same ship class (Stalwart)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/USNS_Stalwart_port_quarter_view.jpg

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ship 3d models

2008-03-28 Thread gerard robin 

>
> Hello,
> Here is a nice Photo of the ship
>  when she was "Adventurous" T-AGOS-13
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/USNS_Adventurous_%28T-AG
>OS-13%29.jpg
>
> That photo can give an idea of the shape of the hull.
>
> Cheers


I forgot to give the URL/link which gives the right size

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ship 3d models

2008-03-28 Thread gerard robin 
On jeu 27 mars 2008, Curtis Olson wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:40 AM, D M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  If somebody looks up some ship blueprints on
> > http://www.the-bleuprints.com or some other blueprint site of a ship I'll
> > model something this evening.
> > Does it have to be a surveillance ship? There are not many blueprints I
> > can find from them.
>
> I am going to try to get some schematics of the ship and take a picture of
> them to post.  The ship I am currently on started out as a navy
> surveillance vessel, but was taken out of service and transfered to NOAA
> and is now used as a research ship.  Our current cruise is dedicated to
> marine debris location and removal.
>
> A few NOAA researchers have come up with some theories of using satellite
> imagery/data to detect "convergence" zones in the ocean currents.  Along
> with converging debris, wildlife and plant life also converges in these
> zones.  So we are starting out with a satellite based prediction of the
> convergence zone.  Now along the way we are taking water samples every 15nm
> to measure conductivity, temperature, and chlorophyll content of the water
> down to depths of 500m.  We should see a significant change in these
> measurements when we cross the boundary into the convergence zone.  Almost
> analogous to crossing a "weather" front.
>
> During this whole cruise we have a team keeping watch from the roof of the
> bridge (aka the fly deck) using hand held binoculars and also using 2 25x
> power "big eye" binoculars that are swivel mounted and have calibration
> marks so anything in the water can be geolocated relative to the ship.
>
> Finally, when we do get to the convergence zone and the likely debris
> field, we will commence UAS operations.  That's where I plug in.  We want
> to use an airborne camera system launched from the ship to extend the
> visual range of the ship and test the effectiveness of this approach
> relative to the other approaches in locating debris.
>
> We have a big cargo container on the fan tail of the ship that we hope to
> fill with debris.  Some people think we'll come back empty handed (big
> ocean), and some people seem to think we can walk across the debris.  The
> truth is likely somewhere in between.  Hopefully we'll come back with a
> full load of garbage and demonstrate the effectiveness of an airborne
> camera relative to observers on the ship and come up with a truth reference
> for the satellite prediction models.
>
> Interestingly, even way away from the convergence zone and from land, our
> observers are picking out bits of debris periodically, so there is plenty
> of stuff floating around out here if you are dedicated to looking for it.
>
> So, the reason I asked about building a 3d model of our ship, is that I
> could plug it into our FlightGear based synthetic view (and replay) system,
> and increase the ooh/ahh factor.
>
> That is all,
>
> Curt.

Hello,
Here is a nice Photo of the ship
 when she was "Adventurous" T-AGOS-13

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/USNS_Adventurous_%28T-AGOS-13%29.jpg

That photo can give an idea of the shape of the hull.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ship 3d models

2008-03-28 Thread Oliver Schroeder 

Just to spread some ideas:
It would be possible to write a feeder, which feeds your track into our 
multiplayer system and thus your route would be visible on our multiplayer 
maps.
It is also possible to build a feeder for live (real) traffic, eg from 
openATC.org.

If somebody feels appointed to implement something like that, let me know.

Cheers,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ship 3d models

2008-03-27 Thread Curtis Olson 
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:40 AM, D M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  If somebody looks up some ship blueprints on
> http://www.the-bleuprints.com or some other blueprint site of a ship I'll
> model something this evening.
> Does it have to be a surveillance ship? There are not many blueprints I
> can find from them.
>

I am going to try to get some schematics of the ship and take a picture of
them to post.  The ship I am currently on started out as a navy surveillance
vessel, but was taken out of service and transfered to NOAA and is now used
as a research ship.  Our current cruise is dedicated to marine debris
location and removal.

A few NOAA researchers have come up with some theories of using satellite
imagery/data to detect "convergence" zones in the ocean currents.  Along
with converging debris, wildlife and plant life also converges in these
zones.  So we are starting out with a satellite based prediction of the
convergence zone.  Now along the way we are taking water samples every 15nm
to measure conductivity, temperature, and chlorophyll content of the water
down to depths of 500m.  We should see a significant change in these
measurements when we cross the boundary into the convergence zone.  Almost
analogous to crossing a "weather" front.

During this whole cruise we have a team keeping watch from the roof of the
bridge (aka the fly deck) using hand held binoculars and also using 2 25x
power "big eye" binoculars that are swivel mounted and have calibration
marks so anything in the water can be geolocated relative to the ship.

Finally, when we do get to the convergence zone and the likely debris field,
we will commence UAS operations.  That's where I plug in.  We want to use an
airborne camera system launched from the ship to extend the visual range of
the ship and test the effectiveness of this approach relative to the other
approaches in locating debris.

We have a big cargo container on the fan tail of the ship that we hope to
fill with debris.  Some people think we'll come back empty handed (big
ocean), and some people seem to think we can walk across the debris.  The
truth is likely somewhere in between.  Hopefully we'll come back with a full
load of garbage and demonstrate the effectiveness of an airborne camera
relative to observers on the ship and come up with a truth reference for the
satellite prediction models.

Interestingly, even way away from the convergence zone and from land, our
observers are picking out bits of debris periodically, so there is plenty of
stuff floating around out here if you are dedicated to looking for it.

So, the reason I asked about building a 3d model of our ship, is that I
could plug it into our FlightGear based synthetic view (and replay) system,
and increase the ooh/ahh factor.

That is all,

Curt.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ship 3d models

2008-03-27 Thread D M 

If somebody looks up some ship blueprints on http://www.the-bleuprints.com or 
some other blueprint site of a ship I'll model something this evening.
Does it have to be a surveillance ship? There are not many blueprints I can 
find from them.
 
Regards,
Dick


Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:53:50 -1000From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: [Flightgear-devel] Ship 3d modelsI was just perusing our model 
inventory a bit, and was curious if we have a 3d model of an ocean ship 
approximately 70m long?  And I don't want to ask for favors here or burn 
anyone's time, but if anyone out there was super bored and wanted to throw 
together a quick approximate 3d model of the Oscar Sette, I could put it to use 
over then next 2 weeks. :-)Here is the Oscar Sette web site ... currrently on a 
16 day ocean debris location and recovery 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ship 3d models

2008-03-26 Thread Ron Jensen 
I did a little quick research on the Oscar Sette.  It was originally the
USNS Adventurous (T-AGOS-13), a Stalwart class Modified Tactical
Auxiliary General Ocean Surveillance Ship of the United States Navy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalwart_class_tactical_auxiliary_general_ocean_surveillance_ships

There is a (not-free) model of T-AGOS-12 here 
http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-ocean-surveillance-ships/367866

I was unable to find any top view drawings or deck plans.

Ron

On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 12:53 -1000, Curtis Olson wrote:
> I was just perusing our model inventory a bit, and was curious if we
> have a 3d model of an ocean ship approximately 70m long?  And I don't
> want to ask for favors here or burn anyone's time, but if anyone out
> there was super bored and wanted to throw together a quick approximate
> 3d model of the Oscar Sette, I could put it to use over then next 2
> weeks. :-)
> 
> Here is the Oscar Sette web site ... currrently on a 16 day ocean
> debris location and recovery mission.
> 
> http://www.moc.noaa.gov/os/index.html
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Curt.



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[Flightgear-devel] Ship 3d models

2008-03-26 Thread Curtis Olson 
I was just perusing our model inventory a bit, and was curious if we have a
3d model of an ocean ship approximately 70m long?  And I don't want to ask
for favors here or burn anyone's time, but if anyone out there was super
bored and wanted to throw together a quick approximate 3d model of the Oscar
Sette, I could put it to use over then next 2 weeks. :-)

Here is the Oscar Sette web site ... currrently on a 16 day ocean debris
location and recovery mission.

http://www.moc.noaa.gov/os/index.html

Best regards,

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