Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-11 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* SydSandy -- Saturday 10 November 2007: Melchior FRANZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ctrl-l ... liveries (l for liveries is a bit exaggerated, anyway) Im not sure what you mean by exaggerated , Keys that don't require you to also press a modifier key are (very obviously) easier to access

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-11 Thread Willie Fleming
While you are re-assigning keys, can I suggest that we remove t/T for the time-warp and reassign that to either a ctrl combo or a menu item. It doesnt strike me that this is a function thats needed in a hurry like a flight control or switch. Possibly ''t and its friends could get re-assigned to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-11 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Willie Fleming schrieb: While you are re-assigning keys, can I suggest that we remove t/T for the time-warp and reassign that to either a ctrl combo or a menu item. It doesnt strike me that this is a function thats needed in a hurry like a flight control or switch. Possibly ''t and its

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-11 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Georg Vollnhals -- Sunday 11 November 2007: I can only agree as the accidentally time-warping by blind-typing on the keyboard (and missing ..) was a nuisance for me several times. And to be honest, I do not know until now how to set it to the normal value back with one keystroke. Just press

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-11 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Melchior FRANZ schrieb: * Georg Vollnhals -- Sunday 11 November 2007: I can only agree as the accidentally time-warping by blind-typing on the keyboard (and missing ..) was a nuisance for me several times. And to be honest, I do not know until now how to set it to the normal value back

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-11 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Sunday 11 November 2007: Just press the t-key longer than a second. :-) That doesn't mean that I want to keep warp on the t-key. I also find that these unrealistic development functions shouldn't waste the good keys. I also find that the r (replay) key is much too exposed.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-11 Thread SydSandy
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:06:42 +0100 Melchior FRANZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * SydSandy -- Saturday 10 November 2007: Melchior FRANZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ctrl-l ... liveries (l for liveries is a bit exaggerated, anyway) Im not sure what you mean by exaggerated , Keys that don't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-11 Thread SydSandy
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:06:14 +0100 Georg Vollnhals [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Melchior FRANZ schrieb: * Georg Vollnhals -- Sunday 11 November 2007: I can only agree as the accidentally time-warping by blind-typing on the keyboard (and missing ..) was a nuisance for me several times.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-11 Thread Willie Fleming
On Sunday 11 November 2007 18:07:24 Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Melchior FRANZ -- Sunday 11 November 2007: Just press the t-key longer than a second. :-) That doesn't mean that I want to keep warp on the t-key. I also find that these unrealistic development functions shouldn't waste the good

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-11 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Willie Fleming schrieb: OK I _WANT_ turbine start/shutdown assigned to t/T and carb heat assigned to 'h' toggle heat on/off and I _WANT_ time warp reassigned to a menu item :-) Reasoning behind the toggle - for proper use of the carb heat you want to have it on for 30-60 secs in the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-11 Thread Curtis Olson
On Nov 11, 2007 12:30 PM, Willie Fleming wrote: OK I _WANT_ turbine start/shutdown assigned to t/T and carb heat assigned to 'h' toggle heat on/off and I _WANT_ time warp reassigned to a menu item :-) I don't disagree with any of this, timewarp probably doesn't deserve it's own pair of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-11 Thread Durk Talsma
On Sunday 11 November 2007 19:07, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Melchior FRANZ -- Sunday 11 November 2007: Just press the t-key longer than a second. :-) That doesn't mean that I want to keep warp on the t-key. I also find that these unrealistic development functions shouldn't waste the good

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-11 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis Olson -- Sunday 11 November 2007: I don't disagree with any of this, timewarp probably doesn't deserve it's own pair of keystrokes. I use this often and definitely want a key for it. Only 't' seems a bit too wasteful and dangerous. (But I can also make my own local key definition for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-11 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Willie Fleming -- Sunday 11 November 2007: OK I _WANT_ turbine start/shutdown assigned to t/T and carb heat assigned to 'h' toggle heat on/off and I _WANT_ time warp reassigned to a menu item :-) Of course you have to offer solutions for the keys that you want replaced. h is the HUD. And

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread gerard robin
On sam 10 novembre 2007, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Melchior FRANZ -- Saturday 10 November 2007: L is used to engage in the aircraft carrier's catapult (see $FG_ROOT/Input/Keyboard/carrier-bindings.xml). So around 10 aircraft will overwrite the new lighting binding anyway. err ... the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread Vivian Meazza
Gerard robin wrote Sent: 10 November 2007 09:29 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment On sam 10 novembre 2007, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Melchior FRANZ -- Saturday 10 November 2007: L is used to engage in the aircraft

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Saturday 10 November 2007: Gerard robin wrote There is only a the little number of persons who use and like the carriers, I'm not even sure about that. It's one of the frequently asked questions, and it seems as if everyone of the IRC regulars uses the carrier once in a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ Sent: 10 November 2007 10:00 To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment * Vivian Meazza -- Saturday 10 November 2007: Gerard robin wrote There is only a the little number of persons who use and like

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread alexis bory
Vivian Meazza a écrit : Melchior FRANZ Hmm ... ok. I'm just not sure if having two separate keys is a good thing. Maybe we should standardize on c ... toggle canopy C ... engage disengage (toggle) catapult \__c as in carrier Ctrl-c ... launch catapult / control the crew :-) l

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* alexis bory -- Saturday 10 November 2007: Vivian Meazza a écrit : Sounds reasonable to me. I Agree too. Umm ... it's only that I had forgotten that Ctrl-c is toggle clickable panel hotspots. So the plan doesn't work out exactly like that. m.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread gerard robin
On sam 10 novembre 2007, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * alexis bory -- Saturday 10 November 2007: Vivian Meazza a écrit : Sounds reasonable to me. I Agree too. Umm ... it's only that I had forgotten that Ctrl-c is toggle clickable panel hotspots. So the plan doesn't work out exactly like

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Saturday 10 November 2007, gerard robin wrote: A stupid question: Why is it necessary to have a key for lights, isn't it a cockpit feature with hotspot, and switch ? I'm guessing because pressing a key on the keyboard resembles the gesture of pressing a key inside a cockpit of a real

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread Anders Gidenstam
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007, David Megginson wrote: So, in summary, I think a single switch to turn on all required interior and exterior lights for night flying can be a big win for FlightGear. That sounds reasonable. But maybe a menu entry or setup dialog would be better for this - after all it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread SydSandy
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:59:58 +0100 Melchior FRANZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: l ... lights (though most are operated via 3D cockpit switches!) L ... tail wheel lock Ctrl-l ... liveries (l for liveries is a bit exaggerated, anyway) m. Im not sure what you mean by

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread dave perry
David Megginson wrote: Switches are hard to find, especially (a) if you're not a real pilot, or (b) if you're not familiar with the aircraft. A single key to turn on all the lights can be very useful for a new user, or even for an experienced user who just wants to fly at night and doesn't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-10 Thread David Megginson
On 10/11/2007, dave perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just looked at the changes in cvs. There is a significant problem with at least this implementation of one key to turn on all the lights for all AC. There is no standard followed for how to implement nasal electrical systems. The patches

[Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-09 Thread David Megginson
I just moved tailwheel-lock from lowercase 'l' to uppercase 'L', and reassigned lowercase 'l' to toggle lighting (for easy night starts without searching for switches). I assigned lighting to the lowercase 'l' because I think it would be much more commonly used than tailwheel lock, but if there

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-09 Thread gerard robin
On sam 10 novembre 2007, David Megginson wrote: I just moved tailwheel-lock from lowercase 'l' to uppercase 'L', and reassigned lowercase 'l' to toggle lighting (for easy night starts without searching for switches). I assigned lighting to the lowercase 'l' because I think it would be much

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-09 Thread SydSandy
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 20:32:40 -0500 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just moved tailwheel-lock from lowercase 'l' to uppercase 'L', and reassigned lowercase 'l' to toggle lighting (for easy night starts without searching for switches). I assigned lighting to the lowercase 'l' because

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor keyboard reassignment

2007-11-09 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* David Megginson -- Saturday 10 November 2007: I just moved tailwheel-lock from lowercase 'l' to uppercase 'L', and reassigned lowercase 'l' to toggle lighting (for easy night starts without searching for switches). L is used to engage in the aircraft carrier's catapult (see