Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-22 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Torsten Dreyer wrote: I don't know if it's somehow related, but the 3d clouds don't seem to drift with the wind, either. Flying with  crosswind with a magnitude as your airspeed let you fly toward the clouds at a 45 degree angle. My setup was: Wind from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-22 Thread Curtis Olson
On the topic of the partical system and the wind vector not being correct. I have a patch here that seems to be working, and it would be great if a few other people could test/review it to see if it makes sense. This is the first time I've dove into the particle system code and the environment

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-22 Thread Curtis Olson
Replying to my own message ... I see a couple simple code cleanups in my first patch so don't worry too much about that. I've been flying tight level circles in a variety of wind conditions (up to 70 kts) with smoke turned on and when I come around and start the circle again, I've been flying

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-21 Thread Vivian Meazza
conditions and winds aloft not working correctly.. Hi Curt, I'm working on implementing contrails, using both particles and submodels, and I'm seeing the same bug. I also see that particles do not move in the direction indicated by the windsocks. I have long since reported that there seems

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-21 Thread Vivian Meazza
[mailto:vivian.mea...@lineone.net] Sent: 20 July 2010 09:41 To: 'vivian.mea...@lineone.net' Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly.. Hi Curt, I have checked the submodel wind. The calculations appear to be correct, and submodels seem to move

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-21 Thread Curtis Olson
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:54 AM, Vivian Meazza wrote: Curt, A further update – here is the error illustrated: ftp://abbeytheatre2.org.uk:2121/flightgear/Particles/particle-wind.jpg The red spheres are submodels with wind activated. I would say that they are reacting as expected. The

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-21 Thread Vivian Meazza
-Original Message- From: Torsten Dreyer [mailto:tors...@t3r.de] Sent: 21 July 2010 17:00 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly.. Am 21.07.10 17:15, schrieb Curtis Olson: On Wed, Jul 21, 2010

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Hi Curt, I'm working on implementing contrails, using both particles and submodels, and I'm seeing the same bug. I also see that particles do not move in the direction indicated by the windsocks. I have long since reported that there seems to be an error in the particle wind - I think that the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-20 Thread Torsten Dreyer
For the time being, entering temperature into the dialog box is broken. The only way to set a temperature is by setting /environment/temperature-sea- level-degc which calculates the temperature at altitude based on ICAO standard atmosphere. That's a little disappointing. Hopefully a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-19 Thread James Turner
On 19 Jul 2010, at 01:47, Jacob Burbach wrote: On a side note...is there a way to retrieve a list of airports within a certain distance of a position from nasal? Trivial from C++, unfortunately tricky from Nasal right now. This needs an extension or alternative to airportinfo(), which allows

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-19 Thread Scott Hamilton
On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 08:47 +0100, James Turner wrote: On 19 Jul 2010, at 01:47, Jacob Burbach wrote: On a side note...is there a way to retrieve a list of airports within a certain distance of a position from nasal? Trivial from C++, unfortunately tricky from Nasal right now. This

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-19 Thread Jacob Burbach
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 3:47 AM, James Turner ja...@bugless.co.uk wrote: On 19 Jul 2010, at 01:47, Jacob Burbach wrote: On a side note...is there a way to retrieve a list of airports within a certain distance of a position from nasal? Trivial from C++, unfortunately tricky from Nasal right

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-18 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Ok, quick test with a new pull and it seems like heading and speeds are working for the layers now. The temperatures don't seem to be taking though, same setup as previous and I was below zero celcius before reaching 9000 feet and already nearly 9 below celcius at 12000 feet. Not sure about

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-18 Thread Jacob Burbach
For the time being, entering temperature into the dialog box is broken. The only way to set a temperature is by setting /environment/temperature-sea- level-degc which calculates the temperature at altitude based on ICAO standard atmosphere. That's a little disappointing. Hopefully a better

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-17 Thread Curtis Olson
Hi Torsten, While we are on the subject, I have two dumb, but related questions ... 1. I do some UAV work and at times collect some real world flight test data. It would be really nice to be able to capture the current metar data off the internet at the time of the flight, save it into some

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-17 Thread Roland Haeder
Hi all, Here's an example video replaying a real flight in FlightGear. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toR9UO_Dafc a little OT but how do I capture those videos? I have a Quad-Core, 2.5 GHz each CPU and a 9500 GT with 512 MB. Roland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-17 Thread Curtis Olson
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Roland Haeder r.hae...@gmx.de wrote: Hi all, Here's an example video replaying a real flight in FlightGear. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toR9UO_Dafc a little OT but how do I capture those videos? I have a Quad-Core, 2.5 GHz each CPU and a 9500 GT

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-17 Thread Roland Haeder
Hi Curtis! Thanks for the quick reply. I also such low tech device, a tripod. Okay, that was to easy. :) Roland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- This SF.net email is sponsored by

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-17 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Hi Curt, without having tested this, it might work like this: Either tie a nasal listener to /environment/metar/data, which contains the raw metar text, and write it's content using nasal to a file. The io module should be able to handle this. Or create a generic protocol writing out

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-17 Thread Csaba Halász
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Curtis Olson curtol...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Torsten, While we are on the subject, I have two dumb, but related questions ... 1. I do some UAV work and at times collect some real world flight test data.  It would be really nice to be able to capture the current

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-17 Thread Jacob Burbach
Ok, quick test with a new pull and it seems like heading and speeds are working for the layers now. The temperatures don't seem to be taking though, same setup as previous and I was below zero celcius before reaching 9000 feet and already nearly 9 below celcius at 12000 feet. Not sure about other

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-16 Thread Jacob Burbach
Not the best quality but readable, hopefully those will demonstrate the problems pretty clearly. http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmburbach/sets/72157624393619399/ I'm also unsure why you bring up altitude above ground, as winds aloft are stated above sea level and in true headings are they not?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-14 Thread thorsten . i . renk
Hi, I don't really know what to make of it...but hope solution can be found as I've started to grow tired of real-weather-fetch and would like to be able to set up more realistic (and less annoying) weather conditions, for longer distance cross country trips especially. Somewhat loosely

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-14 Thread James Turner
On 14 Jul 2010, at 07:14, thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote: * Thorsten P.S. @All: I assume my proposal for a changed environment controller does not generate any excitement here on the list... So, I guess I'll take the discussion back to the forum then - it was worth a try here :-) I really

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-14 Thread Torsten Dreyer
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Torsten Dreyer tors...@t3r.de wrote: All I can say by now: it's most likely not a user error ;-) Or is it? My first check was with fdm=magic to easily climb to any desired altitude. This fdm does not update /position/altitude-agl-ft which is used to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-13 Thread Torsten Dreyer
I seem to have a problem getting my weather conditions and winds aloft to behave correctly. I set weather scenario to disabled, input my weather and winds aloft data using the weather conditions dialog, but weather does not behave as input. The problem is especially apparent with winds aloft

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-13 Thread Torsten Dreyer
All I can say by now: it's most likely not a user error ;-) Or is it? My first check was with fdm=magic to easily climb to any desired altitude. This fdm does not update /position/altitude-agl-ft which is used to interpolate through the environment layers. So _my_ check was based on user error

Re: [Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-13 Thread Jacob Burbach
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Torsten Dreyer tors...@t3r.de wrote: All I can say by now: it's most likely not a user error ;-) Or is it? My first check was with fdm=magic to easily climb to any desired altitude. This fdm does not update /position/altitude-agl-ft which is used to interpolate

[Flightgear-devel] weather conditions and winds aloft not working correctly..

2010-07-11 Thread Jacob Burbach
I seem to have a problem getting my weather conditions and winds aloft to behave correctly. I set weather scenario to disabled, input my weather and winds aloft data using the weather conditions dialog, but weather does not behave as input. The problem is especially apparent with winds aloft data,