RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-26 Thread Norman Vine
FYI http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-07.html ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Gene Buckle writes: Thanks Norman. I wish they'd stop writing such crap. *sigh* g. On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Norman Vine wrote: FYI http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-07.html On average for the last 10 years, Sendmail has probably been good for one of these alerts per week. :-)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] SRTM-30 scenery

2003-08-26 Thread Lee Elliott
On Monday 25 August 2003 12:25, Jon Stockill wrote: On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, Lee Elliott wrote: That's great - me want - is it available from anywhere? There's a few issues to work out. Once I have a build which appears complete I'll pack it all up for you. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Packaging data files

2003-08-26 Thread Lee Elliott
On Monday 25 August 2003 17:53, Erik Hofman wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: - I'd like to see each aircraft be completely self contained in it's own subdirectory (except for standard base package stuff it could feel free to reference.) These standard pieces wouldn't necessarily

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-26 Thread John Check
On Monday 25 August 2003 9:44 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Gene Buckle writes: Thanks Norman. I wish they'd stop writing such crap. *sigh* g. On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Norman Vine wrote: FYI http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-07.html On average for the last 10 years, Sendmail has

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-26 Thread Mally
Curt Outlook is a program that (doesn't have to) but seems happy to run just about any program anyone on the internet wants to send it. I've heard stories that in some cases, outlook will open/run the attachment silently behind the scenes even if you just delete the message without reading

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-26 Thread Erik Hofman
Norman Vine wrote: FYI http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-07.html Again? Use Postfix instead. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

[Flightgear-devel] For Eric The Fokker50 XML File

2003-08-26 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi Eric Please find in the following the xml file for the Fokker50.I guess I dont need to tell you how to install it. Having just read your post I have the gear retracting the wrong way.Also if the main gear piviot point translates forword during retraction them I have not figured how to do

Re: [Flightgear-devel] For Eric The Fokker50 XML File

2003-08-26 Thread Erik Hofman
Innis Cunningham wrote: Hi Eric Please find in the following the xml file for the Fokker50.I guess I dont need to tell you how to install it. Having just read your post I have the gear retracting the wrong way.Also if the main gear piviot point translates forword during retraction them I have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe

2003-08-26 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fabien ILLIDE wrote: There will be a strike this 27th : http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/BigDemo27aug That's my birthday. How many candles do we have to set up ? ;-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] For Eric The Fokker50 XML File

2003-08-26 Thread Innis Cunningham
Erik Hofman writes Except for some places where I goofed everything works fine here. Thanks for looking at it Innis! My pleasure. It does need some tweaks here and there but in the mean time I've added them to CVS. Erik Cheers Innis

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe

2003-08-26 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's my birthday. How many candles do we have to set up ? ;-) Enough to cover all of august. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 07:52:39 +0100, Mally [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Curt Outlook is a program that (doesn't have to) but seems happy to run just about any program anyone on the internet wants to send it. I've heard stories that in some cases, outlook will

[Flightgear-devel] RE: [OT] Angry rant: the end ofdavid@megginson.com

2003-08-26 Thread Kevin D. Rector
Curtis Olson wrote: Outlook is a program that (doesn't have to) but seems happy to run just about any program anyone on the internet wants to send it. I'd like to point out that I have used Outlook now for several years (both at work and home) and have NEVER been infected by an e-mail virus (or

RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-26 Thread Gene Buckle
Gene Buckle writes: Thanks Norman. I wish they'd stop writing such crap. *sigh* g. On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Norman Vine wrote: FYI http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-07.html On average for the last 10 years, Sendmail has probably been good for one of these alerts per week.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RE: [OT] Angry rant: the end ofdavid@megginson.com

2003-08-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:19:06 -0500, Kevin D. Rector [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Curtis Olson wrote: Outlook is a program that (doesn't have to) but seems happy to run just about any program anyone on the internet wants to send it. ..snip. I've heard stories

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-26 Thread Durk Talsma
On Tuesday 26 August 2003 02:52 am, Mally wrote: Curt Outlook is a program that (doesn't have to) but seems happy to run just about any program anyone on the internet wants to send it. I've heard stories that in some cases, outlook will open/run the attachment silently behind the scenes

[Flightgear-devel] strange PA28

2003-08-26 Thread Martin Spott
Hello, this might primarily be a question to David: The PA-28 behaves a bit strange: The outside view still rotates around the nose tip and I don't manage to increase the speed over 60 knots even at full throttle. Do you have a short info how to handle this aircraft - what's the recommended speed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-26 Thread Matevz Jekovec
But wait a second ... this is a scary thought because *we* develop software. Do we want to be held to those same standards as we might propose for microsoft? If someone exploits a bug or oversight in flightgear to do damage, do we want to be held liable? We could just exempt ourselves from

..OT: blue paint bucket toss,was: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end ofdavid@megginson.com

2003-08-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:09:51 -0500, Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ..to put it short: picture yourself on your single seat bike going full bore on the freeway just like Wintendo does on on your PC. (For multi-user os'es, substitute bike for automobile,

re: [Flightgear-devel] strange PA28

2003-08-26 Thread David Megginson
Martin Spott writes: The PA-28 behaves a bit strange: The outside view still rotates around the nose tip and I don't manage to increase the speed over 60 knots even at full throttle. Do you have a short info how to handle this aircraft - what's the recommended speed at takeoff/touchdown

Re: blue paint bucket toss,was: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end ofdavid@megginson.com

2003-08-26 Thread Mally
Very helpful. Let's move on. Mally - Original Message - From: Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FlightGear developers discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 5:53 PM Subject: ..OT: blue paint bucket toss,was: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end [EMAIL

Re: ..OT: blue paint bucket toss,was: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end ofdavid@megginson.com

2003-08-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Arnt Karlsen writes: On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:09:51 -0500, Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ..to put it short: picture yourself on your single seat bike going full bore on the freeway just like Wintendo does on on your PC. (For multi-user os'es,

Re: ..OT: blue paint bucket toss, was: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angryrant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-26 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: But that speaks to the point. With a 747 people's lives are actually at stake. With microsoft's email software, that is usually not the case (although there are plenty of individual instances where people's lives depend on software, but that's not what we are talking

RE: [Flightgear-devel] DAFIF data

2003-08-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Robin Peel writes: Curt, et al: Yes, 'real' work has been busy this year, and I have been rying to get the DAFIF data working for X-Plane. Everything seesm stable with the X-Plane data now (other than some new stuff for X-Plane 7.00), so I will begin to think about integrating FG's data

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MacOS X port, and linuxworld

2003-08-26 Thread Randy Locklair
Hey guys. I see my email generated a bunch of response. I am going to get the latest build for OS X and check it out. I would be happy to help coordinate testing of new features for it. As far as LinuxWorld goes, I would love to coordinate or help coordinate it. I'm just about to move to a new

Re: ..OT: blue paint bucket toss, was: [Flightgear-devel] [OT]Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-26 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 11:11, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Arnt Karlsen writes: On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:09:51 -0500, Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ..to put it short: picture yourself on your single seat bike going full bore on the freeway just like

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Born in the U.S.A.

2003-08-26 Thread Russell Suter
Jim Wilson wrote: David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Tony Peden writes: Is Arnold not a citizen? No person except a natural born citizen, He is not a natural-born citizen. or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, He was not a citizen

RE: [Flightgear-devel] DAFIF data

2003-08-26 Thread Robin Peel
Curt: Nice to hear from you. The X-Plane files have changed incrementally over the past year, and will change again sometime soon to add vector details at airports (such as taxiway lines, etc.). There are no longer any file size limits in X-Plane, though there is still a 'regional' limit of 200

Re: [Flightgear-devel] DAFIF data

2003-08-26 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Realistically, would we lose anything if we just started using the x-plane data format directly? That would save you the extra work of supporting another output format. I'm currently in contact with Heiner Lamprecht from the KFlog team

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-26 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Spott wrote: I started running Sendmail based systems on the net about 9 years ago and I never had a system compromised. It is sufficient to know what you're doing. Switching over to Postfix is not the solution for your specific problem, it's just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers?

2003-08-26 Thread Erik Hofman
Jon S Berndt wrote: What are the steps involved? I can help out, I think. Download one or more DEM files from here (this needs to be coordinated): http://edcsgs9.cr.usgs.gov/pub/data/srtm/SRTM30 Get TerraGear working: http://www.terragear.org And follow these steps (unless I'm mistaken): 3.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers?

2003-08-26 Thread Jon Stockill
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Erik Hofman wrote: I am volunteering for a good part with a dual processor O200. I can throw 2 or 3 machines at it. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-26 Thread Gene Buckle
Gene Buckle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gene Buckle writes: Thanks Norman. I wish they'd stop writing such crap. *sigh* g. On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Norman Vine wrote: FYI http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-07.html On average for the last 10 years, Sendmail has

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers?

2003-08-26 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:37:25 +0200 Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Curtis is going to do a new scenery release but is unable to get the SRTM30 data include due to time restrictions (they should be generated within a day or two). We might be able to get it going for him if there are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers?

2003-08-26 Thread Erik Hofman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might be able to use a few (10-15) dual 2.8GHZ Xeon P4 machines.. They are all running linux. Now we're talking :-D Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Any Volunteers?

2003-08-26 Thread rlarson
I might be able to use a few (10-15) dual 2.8GHZ Xeon P4 machines.. They are all running linux. Let me know. Ryan -Original Message- From: Erik Hofman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 09:37 PM To: 'FlightGear developers discussions' Subject:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-26 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: I started running Sendmail based systems on the net about 9 years ago and I never had a system compromised. It is sufficient to know what you're doing. Switching over to Postfix is not the solution for your specific problem, it's just the illusion of a fix. Nope. Postfix as a

Re: ..OT: blue paint bucket toss,was: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the endof david@megginson.com

2003-08-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 21:02:24 +0200, Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Curtis L. Olson wrote: But that speaks to the point. With a 747 people's lives are actually at stake. With microsoft's email software, that is usually not the case (although there

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-26 Thread Martin Spott
Gene Buckle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gene Buckle writes: Thanks Norman. I wish they'd stop writing such crap. *sigh* g. On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Norman Vine wrote: FYI http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-07.html On average for the last 10 years, Sendmail has probably been

Re: re: [Flightgear-devel] strange PA28

2003-08-26 Thread David Megginson
Martin Spott writes: I'm sorry -- I haven't really worked on the PA-28 for ages. No need for an excuse. I'm just curious - trying to fill my 'mission' for quality control ;-))) Here are some operational speeds for the PA-28-161 [...] Oh, thanks - this is more detailed than I

Re: ..OT: blue paint bucket toss, was: [Flightgear-devel] [OT]Angry rant: the end of david@megginson.com

2003-08-26 Thread David Megginson
Matthew Johnson writes: Good point, something goes wrong on a commercial airliner very few, if anyone ever gets out alive... Not at all. Things go wrong in airliners flown by scheduled carriers all the time, and usually no one suffers anything more than stress from a delay or rerouting.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe

2003-08-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 22:03:14 +0200, Fabien ILLIDE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Sorry for be a bit oftopic. The European Parlement will vote on software patents this 1st september. As FlightGear is a Libre Software, I think it's NOT in our interest. If