Re: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue

2004-07-22 Thread Durk Talsma
I just saw this overhere as well, although I didn't check the log files so 
carefully. This is probably caused by a the missing aircraft, because I don't 
see this in my CVS version. 

The short term solution is going to be that we're removing MD-11 traffic.

Cheers,
Durk

On Thursday 22 July 2004 21:53, Jim Wilson wrote:
 Just tried CVS and we're aborting right after the log entry for Traffic
 Manager.

 BTW I noticed in the command line help we're showing 0=verbose, 5=alerts
 only,  but I think the numbers do not apply.  I'd change it,  but I'm not
 100% sure what all the log-level options are.

 Best,

 Jim


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RE: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue

2004-07-22 Thread Vivian Meazza

Jim Wilson wrote

 Sent: 22 July 2004 20:54
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue
 
 Just tried CVS and we're aborting right after the log entry for Traffic
 Manager.
 
 BTW I noticed in the command line help we're showing 0=verbose, 5=alerts
 only,  but I think the numbers do not apply.  I'd change it,  but I'm not
 100% sure what all the log-level options are.
 

cvs seems to be broken when compiling and running under Cygwin. Using Norman
Vine's OpenAL files SimGear and FlightGear compile without error. On running
I get:

Initializing OpenAL sound manager
Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting...
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

WAG - we need an update to Norman' files.

I'm investigating some more.

Regards,

Vivian



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue

2004-07-22 Thread Jim Wilson
Durk Talsma said:

 I just saw this overhere as well, although I didn't check the log files so 
 carefully. This is probably caused by a the missing aircraft, because I don't 
 see this in my CVS version. 
 
 The short term solution is going to be that we're removing MD-11 traffic.
 

I don't see any traffic files at all so maybe that is the problem.  It looks
like it all got removed on the last update.

Best,

Jim


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue

2004-07-22 Thread Durk Talsma

 I don't see any traffic files at all so maybe that is the problem.  It
 looks like it all got removed on the last update.


I do see them in fgfs-base-0.9.5-pre2. In data/Traffic. Are you referring to 
CVS or to the pre-release. Erik has commited a few changes just about a few 
hours ago (thanks BTW, Erik). And I haven't had a chance to update CVS. 

I'll it's getting late here, so I'll check tomorrow.

Cheers,
Durk


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue

2004-07-22 Thread Durk Talsma
On Thursday 22 July 2004 22:37, Vivian Meazza wrote:

 Initializing OpenAL sound manager
 Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting...
 Segmentation fault (core dumped)

That's actually a message indicating that the AIModel subsystem can't find a 
model. I'm not yet sure how to handle this best. Probably it should revert to 
loading the default glider model. 

Cheers,
Durk


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue

2004-07-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Durk Talsma wrote:


  I don't see any traffic files at all so maybe that is the problem.  It
  looks like it all got removed on the last update.
 

 I do see them in fgfs-base-0.9.5-pre2. In data/Traffic. Are you referring
to
 CVS or to the pre-release. Erik has commited a few changes just about a
few
 hours ago (thanks BTW, Erik). And I haven't had a chance to update CVS.

 I'll it's getting late here, so I'll check tomorrow.

Apparently, TrafficManager is complaining because Traffic/KLM/KLM.xml
is missing

-Fred



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RE: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue

2004-07-22 Thread Vivian Meazza


Durk Talsma wrote

 Sent: 22 July 2004 22:09
 To: FlightGear developers discussions
 Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue
 
 On Thursday 22 July 2004 22:37, Vivian Meazza wrote:
 
  Initializing OpenAL sound manager
  Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting...
  Segmentation fault (core dumped)
 
 That's actually a message indicating that the AIModel subsystem can't find
 a
 model. I'm not yet sure how to handle this best. Probably it should revert
 to
 loading the default glider model.
 

That's good news, I think. Glider model would be fine, at least in the short
term.
 
Regards,

Vivian



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue

2004-07-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Frederic Bouvier wrote:

 Durk Talsma wrote:

 
   I don't see any traffic files at all so maybe that is the problem.  It
   looks like it all got removed on the last update.
  
 
  I do see them in fgfs-base-0.9.5-pre2. In data/Traffic. Are you
referring
 to
  CVS or to the pre-release. Erik has commited a few changes just about a
 few
  hours ago (thanks BTW, Erik). And I haven't had a chance to update CVS.
 
  I'll it's getting late here, so I'll check tomorrow.

 Apparently, TrafficManager is complaining because Traffic/KLM/KLM.xml
 is missing

There is an exception thrown by the property system when a file is not
present. The exception is of type 'sg_io_exception' and it would be nice
is there was a try {} catch {} around the functions that try to read a
XML file.

-Fred



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue

2004-07-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
 Apparently, TrafficManager is complaining because Traffic/KLM/KLM.xml
 is missing

Traffic/UAL/UAL.xml is also not there.

-Fred



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue

2004-07-22 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
I think it will be a good idea to identify what file(s) are missing before 
aborting.  Loading the glider is just a waste of time.

Regards,
Ampere

On July 22, 2004 05:08 pm, Durk Talsma wrote:
 That's actually a message indicating that the AIModel subsystem can't find
 a model. I'm not yet sure how to handle this best. Probably it should
 revert to loading the default glider model.

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RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS - broken?

2004-06-15 Thread Vivian Meazza
Norman Vine wrote
 
 Vivian Meazza writes:
  
  Norman Vine writes:
  
   
   I just updated FlightGear, SimGear and PLib from CVS
   and compiled all anew and I am not seeing this problem
   with Cygwin
  
  I did likewise. Looks like a local problem then. I was trying Andy 
  Ross' cross compilation over the weekend - that didn't work either, 
  but have I corrupted something? 
  
   Did you also update the FlightGear Data files ?
  
  Yes
  
   I noticed that there were a few changes made this AM
   so I suggest doing a fresh CVS first before rebuilding
  
  Done that, and I've re-installed Cygwin. I'm wondering if I have to 
  delete all the files, and really start from fresh. 
 Seriously tiresome.
 
 I would try a make clean and then rerun the autogen.sh 
 scripts on SimGear and FlightGear. then remake
  
   HTH
  
  Certainly does, but I'm really struggling with this one.
 
 Also try explicitly setting your fg_root variable when you launch FGFS
 
 ie from the bash shell 
 
 $PATH_TO/fgfs.exe  --fg_root=$PATH_TO_FG_ROOT
 
 filling in the appropriate $PATH_TO variables for your system
 
 HTH
 

Problem solved - simple, but not trivial. I started over from scratch
(again). My diagnosis, although by no means certain, is that there was
something wrong in the scenery data area. My original cvs update either
pre-dated the appropriate change, or left something behind. 

It's still not quite right - the default aircraft comes up with a
segmentation error, and traffic manager throws up some warnings, but the
Spitfire and Hunter load OK, so work can continue.

Thank you all for your help - much appreciated when banging head against
brick wall.

Regards

Vivian 



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RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS - broken?

2004-06-14 Thread Norman Vine
Vivian Meazza writes:
 
 I downloaded and built the CVS source code this morning (Monday) under
 Cygwin/Xp - it builds without error. I also downloaded the data.
 
 FGFS fails to run, stopping with:
 
 Adding subsystem Traffic Manager
 Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting ...
 Segmentation fault (core dumped)
 
 Any ideas?

Hmm...

I just updated FlightGear, SimGear and PLib from CVS
and compiled all anew and I am not seeing this problem
with Cygwin

Did you also update the FlightGear Data files ?

I noticed that there were a few changes made this AM
so I suggest doing a fresh CVS first before rebuilding

HTH

Norman

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RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS - broken?

2004-06-14 Thread Vivian Meazza


Norman Vine

 Sent: 14 June 2004 15:32
 To: FlightGear developers discussions
 Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS - broken?
 
 
 Vivian Meazza writes:
  
  I downloaded and built the CVS source code this morning 
 (Monday) under 
  Cygwin/Xp - it builds without error. I also downloaded the data.
  
  FGFS fails to run, stopping with:
  
  Adding subsystem Traffic Manager
  Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting ...
  Segmentation fault (core dumped)
  
  Any ideas?
 
 Hmm...
 
 I just updated FlightGear, SimGear and PLib from CVS
 and compiled all anew and I am not seeing this problem
 with Cygwin

I did likewise. Looks like a local problem then. I was trying Andy Ross'
cross compilation over the weekend - that didn't work either, but have I
corrupted something? 

 Did you also update the FlightGear Data files ?

Yes

 I noticed that there were a few changes made this AM
 so I suggest doing a fresh CVS first before rebuilding

Done that, and I've re-installed Cygwin. I'm wondering if I have to delete
all the files, and really start from fresh. Seriously tiresome. 

 HTH

Certainly does, but I'm really struggling with this one.

Thanks for the help

V.




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RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS - broken?

2004-06-14 Thread Norman Vine
Vivian Meazza writes:
 
 Norman Vine writes:
 
  
  I just updated FlightGear, SimGear and PLib from CVS
  and compiled all anew and I am not seeing this problem
  with Cygwin
 
 I did likewise. Looks like a local problem then. I was trying Andy Ross'
 cross compilation over the weekend - that didn't work either, but have I
 corrupted something? 
 
  Did you also update the FlightGear Data files ?
 
 Yes
 
  I noticed that there were a few changes made this AM
  so I suggest doing a fresh CVS first before rebuilding
 
 Done that, and I've re-installed Cygwin. I'm wondering if I have to delete
 all the files, and really start from fresh. Seriously tiresome. 

I would try a make clean and then rerun the autogen.sh scripts
on SimGear and FlightGear. then remake
 
  HTH
 
 Certainly does, but I'm really struggling with this one.

Also try explicitly setting your fg_root variable when you launch FGFS

ie from the bash shell 

$PATH_TO/fgfs.exe  --fg_root=$PATH_TO_FG_ROOT

filling in the appropriate $PATH_TO variables for your system

HTH

Norman



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS - broken?

2004-06-14 Thread Durk Talsma
I used to get this error a few times while developing the Traffic Manager. The 
error occured after the traffic manager instructed the AIModel subsystem to 
create an AIAircraft object using a non-existing directory path to the visual 
model it should use. So, I'm assuming that this error might be related to a 
recent change in the base package. Getting or not getting the error would 
then depend on whether or not AI Traffic in in the vincity of the user. 

I just got home, after having been away for the weekend, and I'm currently 
recompiling to see if I can find out what's wrong.

Cheers,
Durk

On Monday 14 June 2004 11:57, Vivian Meazza wrote:
 I downloaded and built the CVS source code this morning (Monday) under
 Cygwin/Xp - it builds without error. I also downloaded the data.

 FGFS fails to run, stopping with:

 Adding subsystem Traffic Manager
 Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting ...
 Segmentation fault (core dumped)

 Any ideas?

 Regards

 Vivian



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS broken today?

2003-07-01 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Richard A Downing FBCS writes:
 
 Something has changed for the worse in CVS today.  Just flying the
 c172-ifr, I can't now get full throttle to give full power.  After
 climbing slowly to maybe 500 ft there are massive and unpredictable
 changes in height and speed of the aircraft, the turn and bank shows
 the aircraft swinging badly out of trim.  I tried a complete
 download, make clean etc of both SimGear and FlightGear - but same
 effect.  Am I alone? 

Ignore my previous message.  Today in the default C172 I can't seem to
be able to climb past about 1600' ASL.  Something is definitely
weird. :-|

Curt.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS broken today?

2003-07-01 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Curtis L. Olson writes:
 Richard A Downing FBCS writes:
  
  Something has changed for the worse in CVS today.  Just flying the
  c172-ifr, I can't now get full throttle to give full power.  After
  climbing slowly to maybe 500 ft there are massive and unpredictable
  changes in height and speed of the aircraft, the turn and bank shows
  the aircraft swinging badly out of trim.  I tried a complete
  download, make clean etc of both SimGear and FlightGear - but same
  effect.  Am I alone? 
 
 Ignore my previous message.  Today in the default C172 I can't seem to
 be able to climb past about 1600' ASL.  Something is definitely
 weird. :-|

Continued wierdness ... now I'm flying at 2000' ASL at about 175 knots
in the default C172 ... there is something really goofy.  I turned off
all turbulence and that seemed to help.  I wonder if something got
broke with a recent turbulence modeling change?

Curt.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS broken today?

2003-07-01 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Richard A Downing FBCS writes:
 
 Something has changed for the worse in CVS today.  Just flying the
 c172-ifr, I can't now get full throttle to give full power.  After
 climbing slowly to maybe 500 ft there are massive and unpredictable
 changes in height and speed of the aircraft, the turn and bank shows
 the aircraft swinging badly out of trim.  I tried a complete
 download, make clean etc of both SimGear and FlightGear - but same
 effect.  Am I alone? 

I don't think I've seen this myself ... it might be worth double
checking your weather settings ... a moderate to high amount of
turbulence seems to prevent the C172 from being able to climb.

Curt.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS broken today?

2003-07-01 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson writes:

  Continued wierdness ... now I'm flying at 2000' ASL at about 175 knots
  in the default C172 ... there is something really goofy.  I turned off
  all turbulence and that seemed to help.  I wonder if something got
  broke with a recent turbulence modeling change?

I'm going to keep working on the turbulence.  For now, I've disabled
it in preferences.xml for all weather layers by default.


All the best,


David

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS broken

2001-12-06 Thread Tony Peden

On Thursday 06 December 2001 05:45 pm, you wrote:
 It appears as if both the FGFS CVS and the JSBSim CVS
 files have a problem

 This is what I get from trying to link fgfs.exe

 ../../src/FDM/JSBSim/libJSBSim.a(FGFCS.o): In function
 `FGFCS::Load(FGConfigFile *)':
/src/FlightGear/FlightGear/src/FDM/JSBSim/FGFCS.cpp:282:
 undefined reference to `FGKinemat::FGKinemat(FGFCS *, FGConfigFile *)'
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

Did you do a cvs up -d ?
This is a new set of files but I thought that Curt had gotten them into
the Makefile.am so that make/g++ would have flagged it ...


 FYI
 I have 'fixed again' the 'goto Airport' and 'reset' operations
 and am trying to resync my stuff with the CVS so as I can get
 the code to Curt,  but I would like to test against the latest just
 to make sure things are still working.

 FWIW
 The problem was related to the relatively new stuff introduced
 to bind the FDM to use properties values instead of 'C variables.

 It is great to have the flexibility the the properties give us but with
 the 'power' comes 'responsibilities'.

 ie  you have to  'unbind' those properties that are 'bound' before
 freeing what they are 'bound' to or their behaviour is apparently
 undefined.

 Cheers

 Norman


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RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS broken

2001-12-06 Thread Curtis L. Olson

Norman, did you track down your FGKinemat build problem?  I'm not
seeing it on any of my machines here.

Curt.


Norman Vine writes:
 Tony Peden writes:
 
  I guess we all need need to re-run automake autoconf ect !
 
 Actually, Ross made it easier than that: 
 ./autogen.sh  make clean  make
 
 Yes that is nice ..
 
 However I always build in an external directory and have to
 do it the old fashioned way. :-)
 
 FYI
 By building in an external directory I can use one set of source
 files for both MingW and Cygwin and not have OS mismatched files. 
 Trick is to run aclocal; automake; autoconf in the source tree
 and configure; make in the object dir.
 
 I usually just run the configure; make part and it just works
 however you need to the automake thing when new files  
 are added
 
 FWIW
 This is the 'approved gnu way' and helps keep source tree contamination
 to a minimum
 
 Cheers
 
 Norman
 
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RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS broken

2001-12-06 Thread Norman Vine

Curtis L. Olson writes:

Norman, did you track down your FGKinemat build problem?  I'm not
seeing it on any of my machines here.

YES

Sorry I did not make that clear in my earlier message.

BTW
Expect a bunch of changes from me tomorow to
get 'reset' and 'goto airport' 'kind of' working again

Cheers

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RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS broken

2001-12-06 Thread Curtis L. Olson

Norman Vine writes:
 YES
 
 Sorry I did not make that clear in my earlier message.
 
 BTW
 Expect a bunch of changes from me tomorow to
 get 'reset' and 'goto airport' 'kind of' working again

Ok, sounds good.  I took a look at that yesterday and fixed one
potential problem in simgear (actually the problem is in flightgear,
but until that is fixed (tomorrow?) :-) I made the offending simgear
routine do some additional checking for out of bounds conditions.
Once I got that working I got lost in the property stuff.  Glad to
hear you had more time/patience than me. :-)

Regards,

Curt.
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RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS broken

2001-12-06 Thread Norman Vine

Curtis L. Olson writes:
Norman Vine writes:

 BTW
 Expect a bunch of changes from me tomorow to
 get 'reset' and 'goto airport' 'kind of' working again

Ok, sounds good.  I took a look at that yesterday and fixed one
potential problem in simgear (actually the problem is in flightgear,
but until that is fixed (tomorrow?) :-) 

There are still a few problems that I don't really understand yet,  
such as occasionally you have to teleport to a new location
before a successful reset and an occasional lighting glitch.  
But in general it is working,  although repeated 'teleporting' 
seems to be exhausting memory again. 
  30 or so jumps on my machine 

I made the offending simgear
routine do some additional checking for out of bounds conditions.

OK  - Thanks for mentioning that 
I'd better do a cvs up on SimGear too then before I submit this.

Once I got that working I got lost in the property stuff.  
  :-)

Glad to hear you had more time/patience than me. :-)
Oh just one of the 'joys' of being unemployed :-(

Cheers

Norman

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