Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Development Platform Help Needed

2005-01-11 Thread Pablo J.
Mike Krizansky:

I also think that Linux IS the right development platform, but as you
stated, if you feel more confortable with Windows, may be you can
consider the Eclipse + CDT plug-in (as IDE) and MinGW (as compiler)
combination. Both tools are free.

Indeed, and my last option, would be to give a try to the free MS
Visual C++ Toolkit 2003 ("..a free edition of Microsoft's professional
Visual C++ optimizing compiler and standard libraries â the same
optimizing compiler and standard libraries that ship in Visual Studio
.NET 2003 Professional.."). You have no IDE, but may be you can use
Eclipse + CDT for that part.

Whatever you try and/or finally use, may I ask you a favor? Please
document your findings (what you use, what you discard, etc.) and also
document the settings in your platform, as a How-To for others to
come, who can experience the same questions as you: a development
platform for Windows.

References
Eclipse   http://www.eclipse.org
MinGW   http://www.mingw.org
Visual C++ Toolkit   http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/vctoolkit2003/ 

Thank you. Pablo

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RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Development Platform Help Needed

2005-01-06 Thread Chuck Cole
> I was asking just for a documention how you set up MSVC++ so that it
> compiles FGFS. That would be a nice HOWTO for other developers (we get a
> request for that every few months)

Agreed, I think that would be a nice thing to have.  I know that I would
have liked it when I built it :)

Now, I just have to remember everything that I did!

chuck


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Development Platform Help Needed

2005-01-06 Thread Christian Mayer
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Chuck Cole schrieb:
> I unfortunately do not have an FTP server or the like to make my version
> of the source code available to you.  But since you have some time, I
> could simply e-mail you the source code that I have built along with
> some simple setup instructions.  Collectively, the source code for all
> of the projects is rather large; however, I believe that they could be
> split up sufficiently enough to be e-mailed.  We can take the details of
> setting up any arrangement off-list.

My sparetime isn't that much, that I could build and test FGFS in it :(

I was asking just for a documention how you set up MSVC++ so that it
compiles FGFS. That would be a nice HOWTO for other developers (we get a
request for that every few months)

CU,
Christian
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RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Development Platform Help Needed

2005-01-06 Thread Chuck Cole










I know you had mentioned MSVC++ as your
desired path.  I’m using v.6.0, but I have heard from some that it
is easier to build with Visual C++ .NET (or v.7).  There are some threads
in last month’s mailing list archive that discuss building with the .NET
version along with links to established project files, if that is of any
interest to you.  Either way, you’ll have to upgrade from your
version 4.0 that you mentioned initially to build either one.

 

chuck   








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RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Development Platform Help Needed

2005-01-06 Thread Chuck Cole








I unfortunately do not have an FTP server
or the like to make my version of the source code available to you.  But since
you have some time, I could simply e-mail you the source code that I have built
along with some simple setup instructions.  Collectively, the source code
for all of the projects is rather large; however, I believe that they could be
split up sufficiently enough to be e-mailed.  We can take the details of
setting up any arrangement off-list.

 

chuck

 









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Thanks Christian and Chuck,





 





I think Linux would be the most direct
but my comfort level diminishes rapidly.  I would appreciate an
opportunity to review the MSVC++ path if I can get together with Chuck.





 





Most of this development
will take place in Suffolk,
and I'm devoting the entire semester to the project... so I'm flexible to
travel if you can afford some time to help me get this started.





 





Thanks,





 





Mike Krizansky   








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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Development Platform Help Needed

2005-01-06 Thread Christian Mayer
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Martin Spott schrieb:
> Christian Mayer wrote:
> 
> 
>>PS: If anybody is wondering why I've got so much time to answer mails:
>>when you are working on your master thesis you've got time for
>>everything but the stuff you should actually do...

My thesis isn't in cooperation with the industry, so I don't get money
for it :(

> I think this is common in Germany, because actually you are paid for
> everything but the stuff that is connected to your thesis  ;-)
> 
> Martin.
> P.S.: Are you really doing a thesis for a "master" or "diploma" ?

It's an diploma. Technomathematik (technical/applied mathematics) can
only be studied as diploma (which is equivalent to the international master)

CU,
Christian
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Development Platform Help Needed

2005-01-06 Thread Martin Spott
Christian Mayer wrote:

> PS: If anybody is wondering why I've got so much time to answer mails:
> when you are working on your master thesis you've got time for
> everything but the stuff you should actually do...

I think this is common in Germany, because actually you are paid for
everything but the stuff that is connected to your thesis  ;-)

Martin.
P.S.: Are you really doing a thesis for a "master" or "diploma" ?
-- 
 Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Development Platform Help Needed

2005-01-06 Thread Christian Mayer
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> Thanks Christian and Chuck,
>  
> I think Linux would be the most direct but my comfort level
> diminishes rapidly.  

Nowadays Linux is much more userfriendly than what people think.
But I can understand that you'll only want to tackle one "problem" at once.

> I would appreciate an opportunity to review the
> MSVC++ path if I can get together with Chuck.

You could try to write down the detailed steps you took to compile FGFS
and thus produce an HOWTO that we can put on the homepage for others.

So you should get a recent MSVC and all the source code first.
I usually create one directory where I unpack all the libraries in
subdirectories.

E.g.

C:\projects
C:\projects\plib\...
C:\projects\SimGear\...
C:\projects\FlightGear\...

Then I try to compile the libraries according to their dependencies
(zlib, plib, simgear)

And at last flightgear itself.

So that was what should happen (and what worked back in 2000/2001 for me...)
The real life might be a bit more complicated - but the general
direction will be the same.


CU,
Christian

PS: If anybody is wondering why I've got so much time to answer mails:
when you are working on your master thesis you've got time for
everything but the stuff you should actually do...

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