Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG-webpage addition (tardiff created base-package patches)

2004-09-22 Thread Erik Hofman
Boris Koenig wrote:
But there's another thing in this context - it's about the VERSION file
in $FG_ROOT/data not containing pre-release tags, I think Jim Wilson
mentioned a couple of weeks ago that this is supposed to be like that,
this however causes a problem for those users who want to apply a patch
for their corresponding fgfs-base version: in order to make the
process really idiot-proof it would be very helpful if you guys could
either decide whether to add pre-release tags to the version file
I think there have been versions around where the version number in the 
base package was actually something like 0.9.4pre2

Erik
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG-webpage addition (tardiff created base-package patches)

2004-09-22 Thread Boris Koenig
Erik Hofman wrote:
Boris Koenig wrote:
But there's another thing in this context - it's about the VERSION file
in $FG_ROOT/data not containing pre-release tags, I think Jim Wilson
mentioned a couple of weeks ago that this is supposed to be like that,
this however causes a problem for those users who want to apply a patch
for their corresponding fgfs-base version: in order to make the
process really idiot-proof it would be very helpful if you guys could
either decide whether to add pre-release tags to the version file

I think there have been versions around where the version number in the 
base package was actually something like 0.9.4pre2
Maybe, I don't know - it's just that some general convention would
be useful, particularly regarding the patch applying howto for
tardiff:
http://tardiff.sourceforge.net/applying-patches.html#tardiff-apply
So, if you say that future VERSION files will also specify whether
a particularly package is a PRE-release, it would already be
sufficient.

-
Boris
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG-webpage addition (tardiff created base-package patches)

2004-09-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Boris Koenig wrote:
Because of this obvious advantage (particularly for users with slow
dial-up connections, but also for those among us who have broadband
access, but don't like to wait... ) we would now like to know what
the rest of you thinks about adding those tardiff based patches as an 
OFFICIAL alternative *directly* to the FlightGear webpage as option to
the  downloads section for FlightGear's most recent base packages.
I find it a useful addition for modem users, but my only concern is that 
it will increase the number complaints about something not working while 
in fact their base package is somehow corrupted.

Erik
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG-webpage addition (tardiff created base-package patches)

2004-09-16 Thread Boris Koenig
Erik Hofman wrote:
Boris Koenig wrote:
Because of this obvious advantage (particularly for users with slow
dial-up connections, but also for those among us who have broadband
access, but don't like to wait... ) we would now like to know what
the rest of you thinks about adding those tardiff based patches as an 
OFFICIAL alternative *directly* to the FlightGear webpage as option to
the  downloads section for FlightGear's most recent base packages.

I find it a useful addition for modem users, but my only concern is that 
it will increase the number complaints about something not working while 
in fact their base package is somehow corrupted.
While there were -so far- not any problems regarding something like
that, I did also think about that possibility - that's why I would
recommend to only release those patches that have been tested by
running each created patch against the (old) base-package that it
is supposed to patch, and directly compare the resulting (patched)
folder structure with the one of the actual (original) base package,
BEFORE publishing future patches.
While it would be additional work, it can surely be automatized using
a simple shell script [1], but we would at least make sure that the 
patch creates an identical folder structure.

So, only those patches would be released.

Boris
[1]: patches could be checked for their validity by using the already
created checksums of the original archive, possibly using the finish
shell script.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG-webpage addition (tardiff created base-package patches)

2004-09-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 11:11:21 +0200, Boris wrote in message 
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 Erik Hofman wrote:
  Boris Koenig wrote:
  
  Because of this obvious advantage (particularly for users with slow
  dial-up connections, but also for those among us who have broadband
  access, but don't like to wait... ) we would now like to know what
  the rest of you thinks about adding those tardiff based patches as
 an  OFFICIAL alternative *directly* to the FlightGear webpage as
 option to the  downloads section for FlightGear's most recent base
 packages.
  
  
  I find it a useful addition for modem users, but my only concern is
  that it will increase the number complaints about something not
  working while in fact their base package is somehow corrupted.
 
 While there were -so far- not any problems regarding something like
 that, I did also think about that possibility - that's why I would
 recommend to only release those patches that have been tested by
 running each created patch against the (old) base-package that it
 is supposed to patch, and directly compare the resulting (patched)
 folder structure with the one of the actual (original) base package,
 BEFORE publishing future patches.
 
 While it would be additional work, it can surely be automatized using
 a simple shell script [1], but we would at least make sure that the 
 patch creates an identical folder structure.

..do further tests: md5sum all files in the official package and and the
patched package and compare those.  Also, those that fail this test 
may still work, but now we know they're different.

..and, there is also good old rsync.  ;-)

-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-)
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.



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