Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: nimitz ai model : solid material, versus yasim jsb
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:25:36 +0200, Mathias wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Samstag 30 April 2005 01:00, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > 1. JSBSim is not maintained in fgfs' cvs, but JSBSim's own cvs. It's > > only > >regularly copied over to our cvs, so the patch applied here would > >repeatedly get overwritten. And applying it in JSBSim cvs is > >currently not a good idea because JSBSim is in a partial rewrite > >(-> xml format). > Yep, that has to be done elsewhere. > > > 2. the FA18 model is from an anonymous "contributor" from the net. > > Although > >Mathias beefed it up a lot, almost rewrote it, it's not GPL > >compatible as long the original creator hasn't given permission. > >And it's hard to ask him/her, because (s)he is ... anonymous. > >BTW: the great cockpit is all Mathias'. > Yes, more or less. > In the meantime there is not much left from the original model. I have > blueprints available and I redid many things according to that > blueprints. > There are still some parts copied from that anonymous model, but I > want to redo them too. ..I feel it might be adviceable to do this and all such rewrites in a fashion that makes it clear to anyone in the legal professions, that they are being rewritten or has been rewritten, fully legally, to replace any and all suspect non-GPL code, with GPL code. ..some people whine in Gloklaw because they find their litigation bait exposed. No need to fall for such baits anywhere. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: nimitz ai model : solid material, versus yasim jsb
> > You only need the JSBSim diff (and the FA18, of course :-). I don't know > > it the diff does still apply, though. (It's Mathias' work, not mine.) > The diff still applies, since JSBSim is developed elsewhere. > Erik usually moves changes from JSBSim to flightgear before a release of fg. > Until then the patches apply. > >Greetings > > Mathias FYI: I'm working on getting the changes into JSBSim CVS, now. When this is worked out, I'll let you know. Mathias and I have a couple of small things to work out, first. Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: nimitz ai model : solid material, versus yasim jsb
On Samstag 30 April 2005 01:00, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > 1. JSBSim is not maintained in fgfs' cvs, but JSBSim's own cvs. It's only >regularly copied over to our cvs, so the patch applied here would >repeatedly get overwritten. And applying it in JSBSim cvs is currently >not a good idea because JSBSim is in a partial rewrite (-> xml format). Yep, that has to be done elsewhere. > 2. the FA18 model is from an anonymous "contributor" from the net. Although >Mathias beefed it up a lot, almost rewrote it, it's not GPL compatible >as long the original creator hasn't given permission. And it's hard >to ask him/her, because (s)he is ... anonymous. BTW: the great cockpit >is all Mathias'. Yes, more or less. In the meantime there is not much left from the original model. I have blueprints available and I redid many things according to that blueprints. There are still some parts copied from that anonymous model, but I want to redo them too. Greetings Mathias -- Mathias Fröhlich, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: nimitz ai model : solid material, versus yasim jsb
On Freitag 29 April 2005 22:58, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * ghours -- Friday 29 April 2005 22:36: > [ground cache for JSBSim] > > > Yes the patches are welcome . > > from where is it possible to get these patches ? > > ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Misc_maf/carrier/ > > You only need the JSBSim diff (and the FA18, of course :-). I don't know > it the diff does still apply, though. (It's Mathias' work, not mine.) The diff still applies, since JSBSim is developed elsewhere. Erik usually moves changes from JSBSim to flightgear before a release of fg. Until then the patches apply. Greetings Mathias -- Mathias Fröhlich, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: nimitz ai model : solid material, versus yasim jsb
On Freitag 29 April 2005 22:36, ghours wrote: > >from where is it possible to get these patches ? > > I did find anything in JSBSim CVs Yes, but there was a propblem with the standalone version of JSBSim. Jon completely reverted these patches within a few hours. The fix and the job to check that back to Jon's repository is in his hands now. Sorry to say that, but I guess that the part which would end up into JSBSim will only include the solidness of the carrier deck. I have initially developed the physical model with the JSBSim code, just because I found it convenient to have a vector class that I can use like a scalar value. I am just much faster in developing physical models with such a thing. The real final outcome is what we have in YASim and what I have learned by doing that. I am a bit tired fighting against JSBSim's maintainer for magnitudes of time just to get some small and abvious changes into JSBSim. I don't want to think of bigger changes ... Greetings Mathias -- Mathias Fröhlich, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: nimitz ai model : solid material, versus yasim jsb
Melchior FRANZ a écrit : * ghours -- Friday 29 April 2005 22:36: [ground cache for JSBSim] Yes the patches are welcome . from where is it possible to get these patches ? ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Misc_maf/carrier/ You only need the JSBSim diff (and the FA18, of course :-). I don't know it the diff does still apply, though. (It's Mathias' work, not mine.) m. Thanks the patche is OK . Compilation and FGFS running without problems. The Nimitz deck is now solid and not butter. Could not it be in the FGFS CVS ? G-ROBIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: nimitz ai model : solid material, versus yasim jsb
Melchior FRANZ a écrit : * ghours -- Friday 29 April 2005 19:04: An Aircraft with FDM YASIM does work correctly when we try to land on Nimitz: the solid material is active. An Aircraft with FDM JSB does not work the solid material is not active. [...] Does anybody could explain that problem. That's simple: Mathias is still working on JSBSim's groundcache() support (which is necessary for landing on the carrier), while that for YASim is already in CVS (and the last release?). If you are very impatient: there are patches available to add the feature to JSBSim already now.) Yes the patches are welcome . from where is it possible to get these patches ? I did find anything in JSBSim CVs ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d