[Flightgear-devel] autopilot

2010-03-16 Thread syd adams
Hello ... After the recent autopilot update , altitude hold doesn't work anymore for me , (using pi-simple-controller) Im not sure what effect to expect with the anti-windup addition , but my guess is it's just exposing my poor configuration. Cheers

[Flightgear-devel] reset crash

2010-03-16 Thread syd adams
Ran into this , thinking I had a problem with the Primus 1000 ... When I try a reset from the menu , I get this error : passed invalid index (0) to FGRouteMgr::jumpToIndex Fatal error: name may contain only ._- and alphanumeric characters Ive been trying to hunt this down , but too tired

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reset crash

2010-03-16 Thread Erik Hofman
syd adams wrote: Ran into this , thinking I had a problem with the Primus 1000 ... When I try a reset from the menu , I get this error : passed invalid index (0) to FGRouteMgr::jumpToIndex Fatal error: name may contain only ._- and alphanumeric characters This looks like a comment from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft C++ exception: FP_Inactive

2010-03-16 Thread Erik Hofman
乌兰巴根 wrote: Hi guys: I ever successfully build and run the flightgear-1.9.1 under WindowsXP by MSVC90. It is a great work and very interesting. Last week I download the source packege of flightgear-2.0.0. Build the source of flightgear is OK, but when step to debug, there is an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bug report - crash

2010-03-16 Thread James Turner
On 15 Mar 2010, at 23:49, Michael A. K. Gross wrote: I haven't seen this happen elsewhere, so I suspect it may not have been noticed, hence the bug report. This is a bleeding edge CVS, with bleeding edge OSG and SimGear as well. Debian linux with the latest graphics driver from Nvidia,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reset crash

2010-03-16 Thread James Turner
On 16 Mar 2010, at 08:14, Erik Hofman wrote: When I try a reset from the menu , I get this error : passed invalid index (0) to FGRouteMgr::jumpToIndex Fatal error: name may contain only ._- and alphanumeric characters This looks like a comment from the xml parser. Ouch - the first

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft C++ exception: FP_Inactive

2010-03-16 Thread Frederic Bouvier
- Erik Hofman a écrit : 乌兰巴根 wrote: Hi guys: I ever successfully build and run the flightgear-1.9.1 under WindowsXP by MSVC90. It is a great work and very interesting. Last week I download the source packege of flightgear-2.0.0. Build the source of flightgear is OK, but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reset crash

2010-03-16 Thread Erik Hofman
James Turner wrote: On 16 Mar 2010, at 08:14, Erik Hofman wrote: What are the steps to reproduce - fire up the Bravo and hit 'reset'? I've committed a slightly more helpful exception message in props.cxx It'll provide something like: Fatal error: '!' found in propertyname after 'velocities'

Re: [Flightgear-devel] autopilot

2010-03-16 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Hello ... After the recent autopilot update , altitude hold doesn't work anymore for me , (using pi-simple-controller) Im not sure what effect to expect with the anti-windup addition , but my guess is it's just exposing my poor configuration. Syd, if you are referring to the b1900d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft C++ exception: FP_Inactive

2010-03-16 Thread James Turner
On 16 Mar 2010, at 08:43, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Durk use exceptions to return errors. FP means Flight Plan, not Floating Point. That's normal program execution, but it's really annoying when you want to debug because all these exceptions are a performance killer for the debugger, and it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft C++ exception: FP_Inactive

2010-03-16 Thread 乌兰巴根
Hello guys: Firstly, thanks for all reply. I am sure the source package of flightgear and simgear both are v2.0,and I have download the latest plib,openAL,OSG and so on. By now, I have to fix this by return a bool value. I will try to find other way. Thanks! wlbg I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft C++ exception: FP_Inactive

2010-03-16 Thread Frederic Bouvier
- James Turner a écrit : On 16 Mar 2010, at 08:43, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Durk use exceptions to return errors. FP means Flight Plan, not Floating Point. That's normal program execution, but it's really annoying when you want to debug because all these exceptions are a performance

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft C++ exception: FP_Inactive

2010-03-16 Thread James Turner
On 16 Mar 2010, at 11:12, Frederic Bouvier wrote: I've changed this code to stop using exceptions-as-return values - I believe the fix should be in 2.0.0, but I'm not 100% positive about that. I am pretty sure it is not I committed the fix on 19th February, it seems - evidently that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reset crash

2010-03-16 Thread Csaba Halász
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Erik Hofman e...@ehofman.com wrote: James Turner wrote: I've committed a slightly more helpful exception message in props.cxx It'll provide something like: Fatal error: '!' found in propertyname after 'velocities' name may contain only ._- and alphanumeric

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reset crash

2010-03-16 Thread syd adams
I could reproduce with all the aircraft of mine ... haven't tried anyone else's yet . Ouch - the first message is mine - the second I can't claim responsibility for. What are the steps to reproduce - fire up the Bravo and hit 'reset'? James

Re: [Flightgear-devel] News from FlightProSim!

2010-03-16 Thread Curtis Olson
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 7:01 PM, syd adams adams@gmail.com wrote: I have to agree that much can't be done . I hate to see it removed from the forum , flame war or not , since keeping as much information out there as possible might keep a few some being conned . I was thinking the other

Re: [Flightgear-devel] News from FlightProSim!

2010-03-16 Thread Frederic Bouvier
- Curtis Olson a écrit : If this guy points his users at our forum, that also might be a benefit to us. If flightsimpro users start showing up and asking questions, we could again be patient and welcoming, but explain the situation to them. That way at least for the future, they can

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft C++ exception: FP_Inactive

2010-03-16 Thread Frederic Bouvier
- James Turner a écrit : On 16 Mar 2010, at 11:12, Frederic Bouvier wrote: I've changed this code to stop using exceptions-as-return values - I believe the fix should be in 2.0.0, but I'm not 100% positive about that. I am pretty sure it is not I committed the fix on 19th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] News from FlightProSim!

2010-03-16 Thread James Turner
On 16 Mar 2010, at 15:01, Curtis Olson wrote: There are a lot of different angles here, but I think whatever we do, we can't take out our frustrations on the end users that flightsimpro manages to sucker into buying a copy of FlightGear without telling them what it actually is. The guy

Re: [Flightgear-devel] News from FlightProSim!

2010-03-16 Thread Alan Teeder
From: Frederic Bouvier Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 3:21 PM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] News from FlightProSim! Users of FlightProSim have been scammed and they should not endure our anger. But I am not happy to do the FPS support for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reset crash

2010-03-16 Thread syd adams
OK , could be something on my end. I'll dig a little deeper after work. Cheers On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:46 AM, James Turner zakal...@mac.com wrote: On 16 Mar 2010, at 14:08, syd adams wrote: I could reproduce with all the aircraft of mine ... haven't tried anyone else's yet . filed as

[Flightgear-devel] [OT] Bizarre Experiment

2010-03-16 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi Folks, This is a little off-topic, but I thought I'd write a little about a rather bizarre experiment I'm currently running, involving one high-powered 64-bit Linux machine, my currently still cold living room, a central heating system, and a semi-infinitely looped shell script that keeps

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Bizarre Experiment

2010-03-16 Thread Pete Morgan
is it on webcam ? Durk Talsma wrote: Hi Folks, This is a little off-topic, but I thought I'd write a little about a rather bizarre experiment I'm currently running, involving one high-powered 64-bit Linux machine, my currently still cold living room, a central heating system, and a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Bizarre Experiment

2010-03-16 Thread Durk Talsma
On Tuesday 16 March 2010 10:15:57 pm Pete Morgan wrote: is it on webcam ? Euuh, no. It's really not that interesting to watch anyway. :-) Cheers, Durk -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Bizarre Experiment

2010-03-16 Thread Curtis Olson
Hi Durk, No idea about modern machines, but I've certainly had past machines that got flaky due to cpu cooling deficiencies. I've also had video cards with the same issue. I believe there should be an lm-sensors package where you can measure fan speed and cpu temp while you run. That can be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Bizarre Experiment

2010-03-16 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi Curt, A shakey power supply would indeed be my alternative hypothesis. However, I would find it hard to imagine that the city power grid would be so much more stable than the university's power network (which I believe is also connected to the public power grid anyhow). In addition, at

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Bizarre Experiment

2010-03-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:52:36 +0100, Durk wrote in message 201003162252.37060.d.tal...@xs4all.nl: Hi Curt, A shakey power supply would indeed be my alternative hypothesis. However, I would find it hard to imagine that the city power grid would be so much more stable than the university's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reset crash

2010-03-16 Thread Victhor
I can confirm this happens with the Tu-154B freeware model. James Turner wrote: On 16 Mar 2010, at 08:14, Erik Hofman wrote: What are the steps to reproduce - fire up the Bravo and hit 'reset'? I've committed a slightly more helpful exception message in props.cxx It'll provide something

Re: [Flightgear-devel] News from FlightProSim!

2010-03-16 Thread Rob Oates
Hmm, why not change the license on some of the newer planes to a more restrictive creative commons license? This would give you more control over how these are used. For instance, you could apply the license so the planes could only be use for non-commercial/free projects, and if a commercial

Re: [Flightgear-devel] News from FlightProSim!

2010-03-16 Thread Tim Moore
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Rob Oates carrotr...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm, why not change the license on some of the newer planes to a more restrictive creative commons license? This would give you more control over how these are used. For instance, you could apply the license so the planes

Re: [Flightgear-devel] News from FlightProSim!

2010-03-16 Thread kyle keevill
Last I heard, The GPL license was applied to all the planes hosted on the FG website. I do believe however, that if we do take our own planes and put them in a restrictive CC license and then give permission for FG and only FG to use them, then we may be able to do some good. On Mar 16, 2010,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Bizarre Experiment

2010-03-16 Thread Diogo Kastrup
Durk Talsma wrote: Hi Curt, A shakey power supply would indeed be my alternative hypothesis. Hi Durk, I am not an electronics expert but I guess the temperature will affect the power supply too. And I think modern CPU/MB have temperature check built in and slow the clock to compensate.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] News from FlightProSim!

2010-03-16 Thread Rob Oates
Hmm ... the planes in Flightgear are just models, they don't require simgear and terragear to function. Furthermore I would find it extremely bizarre for an airplane model to be a dependency in order for Flightgear to work. I think it's reasonable to say there should be a clear separation between

Re: [Flightgear-devel] News from FlightProSim!

2010-03-16 Thread Adam Dershowitz
That only helps make it clear if someone is violating a copyright. It doesn't help enforce it. If the license is changed, and then someone were to go and sell FG with those aircraft who would hire the lawyer bring the copyright violation law suit? --Adam On Mar 16, 2010, at 4:26 PM, kyle

Re: [Flightgear-devel] News from FlightProSim!

2010-03-16 Thread kyle keevill
Good point, didn't account for that. On Mar 16, 2010, at 8:05 PM, Adam Dershowitz wrote: That only helps make it clear if someone is violating a copyright. It doesn't help enforce it. If the license is changed, and then someone were to go and sell FG with those aircraft who would hire the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] News from FlightProSim!

2010-03-16 Thread Rob Oates
Well you should know how to pick your fights ... you don't have to chase every single violator, just pressure the one or two who are giving you the hardest time (like this Pro-sim guy). At least by changing the license on some of the planes and art work (which are not dependent on anything already

Re: [Flightgear-devel] autopilot

2010-03-16 Thread syd adams
Thanks for the explanation , that does help clear a few things .I'll probably redo these files again shortly . Cheers On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 2:34 AM, Torsten Dreyer tors...@t3r.de wrote: Hello ... After the recent autopilot update , altitude hold doesn't work anymore for me , (using

[Flightgear-devel] Instant Replay, and it's recording of A/C parameters

2010-03-16 Thread Peter Brown
As I have not been able to find any doc's or forum topics expounding on it, could someone explain a few things to me about Instant Replay? First off, what parameters are logged by it, or what defines if a parameter is logged by it? ie, thrust reverser use do not replay, but flaps do. This