Re: [Flightgear-devel] Project Rembrandt - next steps

2012-03-03 Thread Frederic Bouvier
De: Torsten Dreyer Am 02.03.2012 19:03, schrieb Frederic Bouvier: Now that release 2.6 is out, perhaps it is time to discuss further developments concerning project Rembrandt. Although it may already produce pretty images when used by a talented designer (see for example the P92), it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Project Rembrandt - next steps

2012-03-03 Thread Christian Schmitt
Stuart Buchanan wrote: Given that we have 400+ aircraft that need to be updated, I think we also need clear documentation (on the wiki?) describing the steps you outline above, and in particular how to register the transparent surfaces. That probably needs to be in place before the code goes

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Project Rembrandt - next steps

2012-03-03 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Is there any chance to make Rembrandt switchable (on/off) at startup? That should be doable, but not done for the moment. Changes are located in CameraGroup.[ch]xx and Renderer.cxx for the flightgear side, in sgmaterial.lib for the simgear side and in Effects/ and Shaders/ for the data side,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Project Rembrandt - next steps

2012-03-03 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi Fred, On Friday, March 02, 2012 19:03:13 Frederic Bouvier wrote: thoughts ? Since we are now at the beginning of a release cycle, I would think now is the right time. For the question to preserve both renderers, compatibility of models I think that we need to preserve both if we cannot

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Project Rembrandt - next steps

2012-03-03 Thread Erik Hofman
On Sat, 2012-03-03 at 07:25 -0600, Curtis Olson wrote: I agree that we should merge the project rembrandt work sooner rather than later. However, we should also take some time and effort to make sure Thorsten's sky/haze/horizon effects are accounted for as well. I don't know what issues

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Project Rembrandt - next steps

2012-03-03 Thread Alan Teeder
-Original Message- From: Erik Hofman Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 1:36 PM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Project Rembrandt - next steps Personally I would think adding Project Rembrandt will call for FlightGear version 3.0. So if it is added I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Project Rembrandt - next steps

2012-03-03 Thread ThorstenB
Am 03.03.2012 12:43, schrieb Christian Schmitt: Stuart Buchanan wrote: IMO we should bite the bullet and get it into next this week if possible. There's obviously some risk to our 6 month release schedules that we'll just have to accept. I agree here. Let's merge the Rembrandt work

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Project Rembrandt - next steps

2012-03-03 Thread Alan Teeder
-Original Message- From: Frederic Bouvier Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 11:33 AM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Project Rembrandt - next steps De: Torsten Dreyer I don´t know if that already been covered, but is it possible to make a model

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Project Rembrandt - next steps

2012-03-03 Thread joacher
On Fri, 2 Mar 2012 20:51:59 + Stuart Buchanan stuar...@gmail.com wrote: Given that we have 400+ aircraft that need to be updated, Looks like an aircraft needs some maintenance over time. This somehow bothers the question whether it is wise to collect 300+ rudimentary aircraft with no

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Windturbines facing in wrong wind

2012-03-03 Thread Bertrand Coconnier
2012/2/23 Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net: Apparently I've been too ambitious and idealistic. I know that voluntary OpenSource development is primarily ego-driven, but there's a strong indication that I've still under-estimated the average Scenery- developers narcism: Scenery development

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Project Rembrandt - next steps

2012-03-03 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Am 03.03.2012 12:33, schrieb Frederic Bouvier: But just curious : how many of you reviewed the current code ? n+1 Just checked out your project/rembrandt branches. Code compiles fine on 64bit openSUSE 12.1 with OSG from trunk. Running fgfs spits out many messages, most prominent are: can't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Windturbines facing in wrong wind

2012-03-03 Thread Martin Spott
Salut Bertrand, thanks for your balanced statement. There's a lot I could explain and you deserve a proper response, if you like. Anyhow I've been with this project for long enough to know that I'm not going to change anything, not matter what I'd be resond (and how). Therefore I'm inclined to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Project Rembrandt - next steps

2012-03-03 Thread Frederic Bouvier
- Mail original - De: Torsten Dreyer tors...@t3r.de Am 03.03.2012 12:33, schrieb Frederic Bouvier: But just curious : how many of you reviewed the current code ? n+1 Just checked out your project/rembrandt branches. Code compiles fine on 64bit openSUSE 12.1 with OSG from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] About the bug 385

2012-03-03 Thread ThorstenB
Am 03.03.2012 03:28, schrieb Robert: 2012/3/2 ThorstenB bre...@gmail.com mailto:bre...@gmail.com But we don't know why this only happens with the ATI, only with their driver versions 11.5 and above, and only on Windows. Thorsten, this bug is also present on Linux (in my case), and I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Project Rembrandt - next steps

2012-03-03 Thread Frederic Bouvier
De: ThorstenB Also, the project is quite good in finding issues, once new stuff is in git. But, generally we are not so good in fixing problems then. Notoriously, everyone has just too little spare time ;-), so a lot of issues just starve in the tracker. And with hard-core OSG stuff,

[Flightgear-devel] terragear not building and installing genapts

2012-03-03 Thread Jason Cox
Hi all, just checking out the lattest code as of 15min ago and found that genapts is not being built/installed. I checked my build process and found no errors and the program was missing can anyone help? localhost terragear-cs # make install [ 3%] Built target poly2tri [ 10%] Built target

Re: [Flightgear-devel] terragear not building and installing genapts

2012-03-03 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Maybe there is a missing dependency that silently discard genapt from the build Regards, -Fred - Mail original - De: Jason Cox À: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Envoyé: Samedi 3 Mars 2012 23:41:41 Objet: [Flightgear-devel] terragear not building and installing genapts Hi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Project Rembrandt - next steps

2012-03-03 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Erik Hofman wrote: Personally I would think adding Project Rembrandt will call for FlightGear version 3.0. So if it is added I would create two branches, version 3.0 and version 2.7 in which the later is switched to bug fixes only. Surely a bug-fix 2.7.0 branch

Re: [Flightgear-devel] About the bug 385

2012-03-03 Thread jean pellotier
Le 03/03/2012 23:12, ThorstenB a écrit : Am 03.03.2012 03:28, schrieb Robert: 2012/3/2 ThorstenBbre...@gmail.commailto:bre...@gmail.com But we don't know why this only happens with the ATI, only with their driver versions 11.5 and above, and only on Windows. Thorsten, this bug is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] terragear not building and installing genapts

2012-03-03 Thread Jason Cox
Fred, I found the issue. it was a missing install of newmat. cmake didnt indicate that this was going to be a problem when I went to build and so i ignored it. I think that this needs to actually stop the build from proceeding as it stops any worth while build from going on ( not much point in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Adding an R/C pilot view

2012-03-03 Thread Ian Dall
On Fri, 2012-03-02 at 12:39 -0600, Curtis Olson wrote: Hi Ian, If you wish to set your own tower position, it's pretty straight forward and can be done manually or via nasal or probably a few other mechanisms. By default flightgear will set the tower position to the nearest airfield,