Re: [Flightgear-devel] Help needed with multi-screen
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 3:41 AM, Kavya Meyyappan wrote: > Dear FG members, > > I have just been trying out the multiple screen feature in FG. I found that > the GUI camera (including the menu bar, hud and 2D panel) appears in only > one of the windows. Is there any way I can make the GUI to appear in all the > windows? Actually I want to be able to view the hud and 2D panel in all the > windows. > > No, there's a limitation in Plib that forces the GUI to be drawn on one window. > Also when I change the view in any one of the windows, the view changes in > the other windows as well. Is it possible to make the windows independent of > each other. I want to display the cockpit in one window at all times, in the > second window I want to be able to shuttle between helicopter / chase or > model views. > > Also I have observed that in the second screen where I'm displaying lets > say the Helicopter view the aircraft remains static while the environment > moves. This is because the cockpit view in my Master screen is defined as > 'lookfrom'. Can I define 'lookfrom' for one screen and 'lookat' for the > other screen. > > Neither of these are supported at the present time, but it would be a good project. We would have to start using a different OSG class, CompositeViewer, to support multiple views from independent view points. Our terrain pager would need a complete overhaul to use the PagedLOD scheme of OSG, and the Flightgear view manager would need to be aware multiple active views. Tim -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Help needed with multi-screen
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Curtis Olson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Martin Spott wrote: > >> Curtis Olson wrote: >> >> > I think you have just summarized all the limitations of the FlightGear >> > multi-camera/view/display system. Tim Moore is the person who developed >> > this feature (nothing existed before his efforts) [...] >> >> except from the multi-screen system which formerly had been >> introduced by Mathias Froehlich and which has done a great job, at >> least for not too complex display setups ;-) >> > > Sorry Mathias if I mis-attributed that effort. I know you did most of the > original OSG port! > > It's true. I provided a patch to use the osgViewer class to set up windows, manage the main camera, etc. Mathias used the slave camera feature of osgViewer to provide a "video wall" style of multiple displays that was demonstrated at LinuxTag for 2 years, (I think!). I later generalized this to support general monitor arrangements (like a panoramic arc) and general combinations of screens and graphics cards. I don't know if the LinuxTag demo team uses the original video wall feature (still supported) or the "new" stuff. Tim -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Help needed with multi-screen
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Martin Spott wrote: > Curtis Olson wrote: > > > I think you have just summarized all the limitations of the FlightGear > > multi-camera/view/display system. Tim Moore is the person who developed > > this feature (nothing existed before his efforts) [...] > > except from the multi-screen system which formerly had been > introduced by Mathias Froehlich and which has done a great job, at > least for not too complex display setups ;-) > Sorry Mathias if I mis-attributed that effort. I know you did most of the original OSG port! Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Help needed with multi-screen
Curtis Olson wrote: > I think you have just summarized all the limitations of the FlightGear > multi-camera/view/display system. Tim Moore is the person who developed > this feature (nothing existed before his efforts) [...] except from the multi-screen system which formerly had been introduced by Mathias Froehlich and which has done a great job, at least for not too complex display setups ;-) Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Help needed with multi-screen
Hi Kavya, I think you have just summarized all the limitations of the FlightGear multi-camera/view/display system. Tim Moore is the person who developed this feature (nothing existed before his efforts) and maybe he can offer more insight. I know that in the case of menus, hud, 2d instrument panels, there would need to be some significant code restructuring to allow these to be displayed on other windows. One possible way to work around some of these issues would be to leverage multiple machines talking to each other via network packets ... that may or may not be an option in your situation, but I thought I'd mention it in case you hadn't previously considered it. Regards, Curt. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Kavya Meyyappan wrote: > Dear FG members, > > I have just been trying out the multiple screen feature in FG. I found that > the GUI camera (including the menu bar, hud and 2D panel) appears in only > one of the windows. Is there any way I can make the GUI to appear in all the > windows? Actually I want to be able to view the hud and 2D panel in all the > windows. > > Also when I change the view in any one of the windows, the view changes in > the other windows as well. Is it possible to make the windows independent of > each other. I want to display the cockpit in one window at all times, in the > second window I want to be able to shuttle between helicopter / chase or > model views. > > Also I have observed that in the second screen where I'm displaying lets > say the Helicopter view the aircraft remains static while the environment > moves. This is because the cockpit view in my Master screen is defined as > 'lookfrom'. Can I define 'lookfrom' for one screen and 'lookat' for the > other screen. > > Hope to hear from you. > > Regards > Kavya > > > -- > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > -- Curtis Olson: http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
