Re: [Flightgear-users] CitatiionII

2005-11-03 Thread Dave Culp
On Thursday 03 November 2005 05:28 am, Shelton D'Cruz wrote: Anyone else notice a strange problem with the Citation II - after a while flying her, she will all of a sudden go up and down in a yo-yo fashion - only happens to the Citation. Are you using real-weather-fetch? Try disabling any

Re: [Flightgear-users] CitatiionII

2005-11-03 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Thursday 03 November 2005 11:28, Shelton D'Cruz wrote: Anyone else notice a strange problem with the Citation II - after a while flying her, she will all of a sudden go up and down in a yo-yo fashion - only happens to the Citation. Yes, I noticed it before. It's a known problem, I think -

Re: [Flightgear-users] CitatiionII

2005-11-03 Thread Curtis L. Olson
AJ MacLeod wrote: On Thursday 03 November 2005 11:28, Shelton D'Cruz wrote: Anyone else notice a strange problem with the Citation II - after a while flying her, she will all of a sudden go up and down in a yo-yo fashion - only happens to the Citation. Yes, I noticed it before. It's

RE: [Flightgear-users] CitatiionII

2005-11-03 Thread Vivian Meazza
Curtis L. Olson .. snip ... This is my biggest beef with the yasim flight model. It works great in most regimes, but if you ever get in a situation where you are over speed (very low aoa) or if you are trying to push the nose down to drop altitude on an approach (for instance) you can get

Re: [Flightgear-users] CitatiionII

2005-11-03 Thread Buchanan, Stuart
Is this with the autopilot on? YAsim has a 'feature' such that when a wing gets in a negative aoa regime, it stalls *far* more quickly than in the positive aoa regime. Amazing how questions get answered before they're asked sometimes :) I was seeing similar behaviour with the Cessna

Re: [Flightgear-users] CitatiionII

2005-11-03 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Vivian Meazza wrote: Curtis L. Olson .. snip ... This is my biggest beef with the yasim flight model. It works great in most regimes, but if you ever get in a situation where you are over speed (very low aoa) or if you are trying to push the nose down to drop altitude on an approach (for

Re: [Flightgear-users] CitatiionII

2005-11-03 Thread Andy Ross
Curtis L. Olson wrote: However, I know Andy's intension was to produce plausible behavior across all flight regimes as best as can be guessed at, and there is clearly a bug where stalls come *way* to early in the negative aoa regime. Yes, this is a real bug. It's not the stall per se, I

Re: [Flightgear-users] CitatiionII

2005-11-03 Thread Andy Ross
Shelton wrote: I therefore think that it should not be released in the default base package, because it kinda makes the plane pretty much unflyable - real pity as the cockpit is so lovely done. I thought the workaround for this particular aircraft was just don't fly so fast. :) Andy

Re: [Flightgear-users] CitatiionII

2005-11-03 Thread sdcruz
OH? is that the solution - OK ill give that a try when I get home from work tonight. Regards Shelton. Quoting Andy Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Shelton wrote: I therefore think that it should not be released in the default base package, because it kinda makes the plane pretty much unflyable -

Re: [Flightgear-users] CitatiionII

2005-11-03 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 03 Nov 2005 17:09, Andy Ross wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: However, I know Andy's intension was to produce plausible behavior across all flight regimes as best as can be guessed at, and there is clearly a bug where stalls come *way* to early in the negative aoa regime. Yes,

Re: [Flightgear-users] CitatiionII

2005-11-03 Thread Josh Babcock
Lee Elliott wrote: On Thursday 03 Nov 2005 17:09, Andy Ross wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: However, I know Andy's intension was to produce plausible behavior across all flight regimes as best as can be guessed at, and there is clearly a bug where stalls come *way* to early in the negative aoa