Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
Enrique Vaamonde wrote: I second the request for trying to get to the bottom of this issue. I reported a few weeks back that both 0.9.8 and cvs would segfault on me whenever I flew around the default San Francisco at night. It works fine in that area on daylight, and works fine when flying at night in other areas. I also am unable to use the newer 3D clouds, although shadows do work. I have a laptop with an ATI Mobility 9000 with 64MB, and this problem has been around for the latest 3 binary driver releases for x.org (I'm using debian sid / unstable). I have started to lurk into the rendering code to see if I can spot anything, but it's been quite a learning curve :) We should be careful to keep issues separate. You are talking about something that has affected you for both v0.9.8 and v0.9.9. There is a separate problem for people that has just been introduced with v0.9.9 ... And for what it's worth, people over the years have reported a variety of glitches with ATI hardware running open-source drivers. That doesn't mean you should run them, they open-source driver testers need bug reporters too, but just understand what you are getting yourself into. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
David C. Chipman wrote: Hi all, This is the error I get in the terminal window when starting fgfs: opening file: /usr/share/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat X Error of failed request: GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request: 16 (X_GLXVendorPrivate) Serial number of failed request: 42 Current serial number in output stream: 43 I too see this issue and it is preventing me from being able to use 0.9.9 at all. My PC is able to run 0.9.8 with no issue. 0.9.9 fails with the GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest error. My platform is Linux (Fedora Core 4), Intel 32-bit, ATI 9600SE video with open source drivers. My reading of this is that the FG code now generates an X Window request that is non-standard and which only works with some cards. ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
On Sonntag 20 November 2005 21:06, Erik Hofman wrote: Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: I have been using FlightGear since 0.9.4, and all previous versions of FlightGear ran fine on my old motherboard with i810. So, I'm sure his i845 would have no problem with FlightGear. I can bet that 0.9.8 would run fine on his machine while 0.9.9 doesn't. Did you try disabling all of the new rendering features like shadows and 3d clouds? Erik, it happens when the render texture does its initialization. As far as I can see this is not a problem how flightgear call the glx functions. It is just that the client uses some glx request the x server does not understand. But given that the x-server announces that it has pbuffers as extension available it should accept that glx request instead of bailing out ... Since the Xorg/Mesa glx code uses the same codepath for glx-1.4 pbuffer and sgixpbuffer, the way how it is implemented in rendertexture will most propably not the problem. In fact, at the time I used the r200 driver, before we started using the glx-1.4 pbuffer code, I had the exactly same problem with the sgipbuffers. In summary, I believe that this is a Xorg Problem. Since some components, namely the 3d clouds initialize rendertexture even if it is unused, just disabling would not help. I tried to reorganize that code not to initialize until it is really required, but that was more problematic than I could solve in that short time I had for that task. May be somebody wants to look into that stuff and initialize render texture only if it is really required. That would at least help those people who can live without the 3d clouds ... Greetings Mathias -- Mathias Fröhlich, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
Innis Cunningham Hi Dene Not that this will be much use to you but see my post Great 9.9. All I did was uninstall 9.5 with the uninstall shield and run the setup wizard and every thing worked fine. As for cards and drivers the 98SE version is using directX from a long time ago and I have not updated the drivers since the card was installed. Have you tried runing with the Nimitz senario disabled. I will be installing 9.9 on my other windows box today will see if I have any problems with that(2G athlon with FX5200 graphics)still running 98SE dene maxwell writes While waiting for an answer(and feeling like a seagull with a broken wing :-) I blew away the FG folder and tried a fresh installsame result Uninstalled through the Control Panel and reinstalled 0.9.9same result Loaded 0.9.8 over the top of 0.9.9 and it runs as before. No pressure, but are any of the FG guru's investigating this? I am really feeling empathy for birds with broken wings LOL What's the issue with the Nimitz demo? Vivian ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
I dunno what the issue is but it has been suggested that I disable it. I would, but I can't find where to? Dene From: Vivian Meazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FlightGear user discussions flightgear-users@flightgear.org To: 'FlightGear user discussions' flightgear-users@flightgear.org Subject: RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 10:40:41 - Innis Cunningham Hi Dene Not that this will be much use to you but see my post Great 9.9. All I did was uninstall 9.5 with the uninstall shield and run the setup wizard and every thing worked fine. As for cards and drivers the 98SE version is using directX from a long time ago and I have not updated the drivers since the card was installed. Have you tried runing with the Nimitz senario disabled. I will be installing 9.9 on my other windows box today will see if I have any problems with that(2G athlon with FX5200 graphics)still running 98SE dene maxwell writes While waiting for an answer(and feeling like a seagull with a broken wing :-) I blew away the FG folder and tried a fresh installsame result Uninstalled through the Control Panel and reinstalled 0.9.9same result Loaded 0.9.8 over the top of 0.9.9 and it runs as before. No pressure, but are any of the FG guru's investigating this? I am really feeling empathy for birds with broken wings LOL What's the issue with the Nimitz demo? Vivian ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d _ Find the coolest online games @ http://xtramsn.co.nz/gaming ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
dene maxwell I dunno what the issue is but it has been suggested that I disable it. I would, but I can't find where to? Dene From: Vivian Meazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FlightGear user discussions flightgear-users@flightgear.org To: 'FlightGear user discussions' flightgear-users@flightgear.org Subject: RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 10:40:41 - Innis Cunningham Hi Dene Not that this will be much use to you but see my post Great 9.9. All I did was uninstall 9.5 with the uninstall shield and run the setup wizard and every thing worked fine. As for cards and drivers the 98SE version is using directX from a long time ago and I have not updated the drivers since the card was installed. Have you tried runing with the Nimitz senario disabled. I will be installing 9.9 on my other windows box today will see if I have any problems with that(2G athlon with FX5200 graphics)still running 98SE dene maxwell writes While waiting for an answer(and feeling like a seagull with a broken wing :-) I blew away the FG folder and tried a fresh installsame result Uninstalled through the Control Panel and reinstalled 0.9.9same result Loaded 0.9.8 over the top of 0.9.9 and it runs as before. No pressure, but are any of the FG guru's investigating this? I am really feeling empathy for birds with broken wings LOL What's the issue with the Nimitz demo? Vivian Comment out the relevant line in preferences.xml Don't know what problem it's meant to solve though - AFAIK it's bug free - I'd like to no if someone has found a problem with it. V. ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
Le dimanche 20 novembre 2005 à 12:16 +, Vivian Meazza a écrit : dene maxwell I No pressure, but are any of the FG guru's investigating this? I am really feeling empathy for birds with broken wings LOL What's the issue with the Nimitz demo? Vivian Comment out the relevant line in preferences.xml Don't know what problem it's meant to solve though - AFAIK it's bug free - I'd like to no if someone has found a problem with it. V. Working perfectly, as usual. Only a little visual defect inside Hangar near to Elevator 1 (face not triangulated). Here:http://ghours.club.fr/AC-carrierHangar.jpg Cheers -- Gerard ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
On Sunday 20 November 2005 13:49, Gerard ROBIN wrote: Working perfectly, as usual. Only a little visual defect inside Hangar near to Elevator 1 (face not triangulated). Here:http://ghours.club.fr/AC-carrierHangar.jpg Actually I think that that defect is the result of two faces ocupying the same real estate. There are a few more places on the Nimitz where more than one face is fighting for the exact same plane in space. -- Roy Vegard Ovesen ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
Le dimanche 20 novembre 2005 à 15:40 +0100, Roy Vegard Ovesen a écrit : On Sunday 20 November 2005 13:49, Gerard ROBIN wrote: Working perfectly, as usual. Only a little visual defect inside Hangar near to Elevator 1 (face not triangulated). Here:http://ghours.club.fr/AC-carrierHangar.jpg Actually I think that that defect is the result of two faces ocupying the same real estate. There are a few more places on the Nimitz where more than one face is fighting for the exact same plane in space. No i did solve it on my side. When a hole is defined only with vertex without any handle to fix it (surfaces triangulated), the display process connect directly each vertex, so you get a virtual face inside the hole. Cheers -- Gerard ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
On November 20, 2005 12:13 am, Curtis L. Olson wrote: For Linux I've heard of people having excellent results with nvidia, pretty ok results with ati (with some problems that crop up occasionally.) And I've never heard of anyone running any serious opengl applications with any other cards/chipsets. You might want to throw a cheap nvidia card in your machine and I bet your luck will improve rapidly. Regards, Curt. I have been using FlightGear since 0.9.4, and all previous versions of FlightGear ran fine on my old motherboard with i810. So, I'm sure his i845 would have no problem with FlightGear. I can bet that 0.9.8 would run fine on his machine while 0.9.9 doesn't. Several people, including me, have been experiencing problems with FlightGear 0.9.9. For me, I actually began experience problems ever since I started using 0.9.8 CVS. We have one similarity: we don't have Nvidia card. While we could all get ourselves Nvidia cards and get around the problem, I really don't see it as a realistic option. Ampere ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: I have been using FlightGear since 0.9.4, and all previous versions of FlightGear ran fine on my old motherboard with i810. So, I'm sure his i845 would have no problem with FlightGear. I can bet that 0.9.8 would run fine on his machine while 0.9.9 doesn't. Did you try disabling all of the new rendering features like shadows and 3d clouds? Erik ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
This crash comes when I selected a GMT time 11:55... When I select default time noon, FG runs ok.. Still no shadow here, just to clarify, I never complain about clouds shadow.. opening file: C:/Arquivos de programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat C:/Arquivos de programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/TACAN_freq.dat Failed to find runway 28R at airport SBFT Altitude = 2170 Temp at alt (C) = 24 Temp sea level (C) = 28.4327 Altitude = 2170 Dewpoint at alt (C) = 14 Dewpoint at sea level (C) = 14.434 Initialising callsign using 'Aircraft/c172p/Models/c172p.xml' Initializing Nasal Electrical System opening file: C:/Arquivos de programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat C:/Arquivos de programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/TACAN_freq.dat Failed to find runway 28R at airport SBFT Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting... Possible cause: No error -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/176 - Release Date: 20/11/2005 ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
Rodrigo Flores This crash comes when I selected a GMT time 11:55... When I select default time noon, FG runs ok.. Still no shadow here, just to clarify, I never complain about clouds shadow.. opening file: C:/Arquivos de programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat C:/Arquivos de programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/TACAN_freq.dat Failed to find runway 28R at airport SBFT Altitude = 2170 Temp at alt (C) = 24 Temp sea level (C) = 28.4327 Altitude = 2170 Dewpoint at alt (C) = 14 Dewpoint at sea level (C) = 14.434 Initialising callsign using 'Aircraft/c172p/Models/c172p.xml' Initializing Nasal Electrical System opening file: C:/Arquivos de programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat C:/Arquivos de programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/TACAN_freq.dat Failed to find runway 28R at airport SBFT Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting... Possible cause: No error Works here using 11:55:00. Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting... is often seen with sound card problems, usually drivers. V. ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
Hello Vivian, I have SB5.1 live (dell) and just checked SB website and my driver is updated, thanks anyway - Original Message - From: Vivian Meazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'FlightGear user discussions' flightgear-users@flightgear.org Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 8:45 PM Subject: RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup Rodrigo Flores This crash comes when I selected a GMT time 11:55... When I select default time noon, FG runs ok.. Still no shadow here, just to clarify, I never complain about clouds shadow.. opening file: C:/Arquivos de programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat C:/Arquivos de programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/TACAN_freq.dat Failed to find runway 28R at airport SBFT Altitude = 2170 Temp at alt (C) = 24 Temp sea level (C) = 28.4327 Altitude = 2170 Dewpoint at alt (C) = 14 Dewpoint at sea level (C) = 14.434 Initialising callsign using 'Aircraft/c172p/Models/c172p.xml' Initializing Nasal Electrical System opening file: C:/Arquivos de programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat C:/Arquivos de programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/TACAN_freq.dat Failed to find runway 28R at airport SBFT Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting... Possible cause: No error Works here using 11:55:00. Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting... is often seen with sound card problems, usually drivers. V. ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d Esta mensagem foi verificada pelo E-mail Protegido Terra. Scan engine: McAfee VirusScan / Atualizado em 18/11/2005 / Versão: 4.4.00/4632 Proteja o seu e-mail Terra: http://mail.terra.com.br/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/176 - Release Date: 20/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/176 - Release Date: 20/11/2005 ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
On November 20, 2005 03:06 pm, Erik Hofman wrote: Did you try disabling all of the new rendering features like shadows and 3d clouds? Erik Yes. I'm pretty sure that this is an imcompatibility issue from SimGear's end, and not some problems that is caused by misconfigurations or faulty libraries on my side. Ampere ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
I second the request for trying to get to the bottom of this issue. I reported a few weeks back that both 0.9.8 and cvs would segfault on me whenever I flew around the default San Francisco at night. It works fine in that area on daylight, and works fine when flying at night in other areas. I also am unable to use the newer 3D clouds, although shadows do work. I have a laptop with an ATI Mobility 9000 with 64MB, and this problem has been around for the latest 3 binary driver releases for x.org (I'm using debian sid / unstable). I have started to lurk into the rendering code to see if I can spot anything, but it's been quite a learning curve :) thanks, -E David C. Chipman wrote: Hi all, This is the error I get in the terminal window when starting fgfs: opening file: /usr/share/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat X Error of failed request: GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request: 16 (X_GLXVendorPrivate) Serial number of failed request: 42 Current serial number in output stream: 43 Thanks, -David Chipman ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
I ran 0.9.8a on a 1.8Ghz P4, Me, 32Mbyte Nvidia GeForce2 MX card with almost no problems. Certainly none that stopped enjoying the FG flying experience. 0.9.9 won't even load, the general gist of the threads on this subject seem to be suggesting that various features are disabled in the preferences.xml to try and find out what's stopping it running. I'll be trying this when I get a chance really looking forward to the new features but its a balancing act with actually getting some flying in!! Dene From: Ampere K. Hardraade [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FlightGear user discussions flightgear-users@flightgear.org To: FlightGear user discussions flightgear-users@flightgear.org Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 13:46:38 -0500 On November 20, 2005 12:13 am, Curtis L. Olson wrote: For Linux I've heard of people having excellent results with nvidia, pretty ok results with ati (with some problems that crop up occasionally.) And I've never heard of anyone running any serious opengl applications with any other cards/chipsets. You might want to throw a cheap nvidia card in your machine and I bet your luck will improve rapidly. Regards, Curt. I have been using FlightGear since 0.9.4, and all previous versions of FlightGear ran fine on my old motherboard with i810. So, I'm sure his i845 would have no problem with FlightGear. I can bet that 0.9.8 would run fine on his machine while 0.9.9 doesn't. Several people, including me, have been experiencing problems with FlightGear 0.9.9. For me, I actually began experience problems ever since I started using 0.9.8 CVS. We have one similarity: we don't have Nvidia card. While we could all get ourselves Nvidia cards and get around the problem, I really don't see it as a realistic option. Ampere ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d _ Become a fitness fanatic @ http://xtramsn.co.nz/health ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
Hi all, This is the error I get in the terminal window when starting fgfs: opening file: /usr/share/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat X Error of failed request: GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request: 16 (X_GLXVendorPrivate) Serial number of failed request: 42 Current serial number in output stream: 43 Thanks, -David Chipman ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
While waiting for an answer(and feeling like a seagull with a broken wing :-) I blew away the FG folder and tried a fresh installsame result Uninstalled through the Control Panel and reinstalled 0.9.9same result Loaded 0.9.8 over the top of 0.9.9 and it runs as before. No pressure, but are any of the FG guru's investigating this? I am really feeling empathy for birds with broken wings LOL Dene From: David C. Chipman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FlightGear user discussions flightgear-users@flightgear.org To: flightgear-users@flightgear.org Subject: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 19:09:44 -0500 Hi all, This is the error I get in the terminal window when starting fgfs: opening file: /usr/share/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat X Error of failed request: GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request: 16 (X_GLXVendorPrivate) Serial number of failed request: 42 Current serial number in output stream: 43 Thanks, -David Chipman ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d _ Check out the latest video @ http://xtra.co.nz/streaming ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
On November 19, 2005 07:09 pm, David C. Chipman wrote: Hi all, This is the error I get in the terminal window when starting fgfs: opening file: /usr/share/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat X Error of failed request: GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request: 16 (X_GLXVendorPrivate) Serial number of failed request: 42 Current serial number in output stream: 43 Welcome to the club! On November 19, 2005 07:26 pm, dene maxwell wrote: While waiting for an answer(and feeling like a seagull with a broken wing :-) I blew away the FG folder and tried a fresh installsame result Uninstalled through the Control Panel and reinstalled 0.9.9same result Loaded 0.9.8 over the top of 0.9.9 and it runs as before. Let me guess: ATI user? No pressure, but are any of the FG guru's investigating this? I am really feeling empathy for birds with broken wings LOL Dene I hope so, because I too am being plagued by this problem. Ampere ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
Hi Dene Not that this will be much use to you but see my post Great 9.9. All I did was uninstall 9.5 with the uninstall shield and run the setup wizard and every thing worked fine. As for cards and drivers the 98SE version is using directX from a long time ago and I have not updated the drivers since the card was installed. Have you tried runing with the Nimitz senario disabled. I will be installing 9.9 on my other windows box today will see if I have any problems with that(2G athlon with FX5200 graphics)still running 98SE Cheers Innis dene maxwell writes While waiting for an answer(and feeling like a seagull with a broken wing :-) I blew away the FG folder and tried a fresh installsame result Uninstalled through the Control Panel and reinstalled 0.9.9same result Loaded 0.9.8 over the top of 0.9.9 and it runs as before. No pressure, but are any of the FG guru's investigating this? I am really feeling empathy for birds with broken wings LOL Dene ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
Hi Ampere + Others, Actually I'm an Intel user (on-board video). I'm glad this isn't just a freak problem I'm having, though I'm surprised to see this kind of show-stopper of an error in a ver. 0.9.9 program... I hope they get this figured out. Is there anybody here who is also on the devel list? Later, -David Chipman On Sat, 2005-11-19 at 20:03 -0500, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On November 19, 2005 07:09 pm, David C. Chipman wrote: Hi all, This is the error I get in the terminal window when starting fgfs: opening file: /usr/share/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat X Error of failed request: GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request: 16 (X_GLXVendorPrivate) Serial number of failed request: 42 Current serial number in output stream: 43 Welcome to the club! On November 19, 2005 07:26 pm, dene maxwell wrote: While waiting for an answer(and feeling like a seagull with a broken wing :-) I blew away the FG folder and tried a fresh installsame result Uninstalled through the Control Panel and reinstalled 0.9.9same result Loaded 0.9.8 over the top of 0.9.9 and it runs as before. Let me guess: ATI user? No pressure, but are any of the FG guru's investigating this? I am really feeling empathy for birds with broken wings LOL Dene I hope so, because I too am being plagued by this problem. Ampere ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
I've uninstalled everything every way I know how how do you disable the Nimitz Scenario? I noted in the readme file that the 3D Clouds (experimental) has been removed and replaced by the new clouds but the 3D Clouds (experimenta)l still appears in the FlightGear Wizard at startupis this significant? Thanks Dene From: Innis Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FlightGear user discussions flightgear-users@flightgear.org To: flightgear-users@flightgear.org Subject: RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:09:29 +0800 Hi Dene Not that this will be much use to you but see my post Great 9.9. All I did was uninstall 9.5 with the uninstall shield and run the setup wizard and every thing worked fine. As for cards and drivers the 98SE version is using directX from a long time ago and I have not updated the drivers since the card was installed. Have you tried runing with the Nimitz senario disabled. I will be installing 9.9 on my other windows box today will see if I have any problems with that(2G athlon with FX5200 graphics)still running 98SE Cheers Innis dene maxwell writes While waiting for an answer(and feeling like a seagull with a broken wing :-) I blew away the FG folder and tried a fresh installsame result Uninstalled through the Control Panel and reinstalled 0.9.9same result Loaded 0.9.8 over the top of 0.9.9 and it runs as before. No pressure, but are any of the FG guru's investigating this? I am really feeling empathy for birds with broken wings LOL Dene ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d _ Shop til you drop at XtraMSN Shopping http://shopping.xtramsn.co.nz/home/ ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
Hi all, Here is the output from glxinfo: name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig client glx vendor string: SGI client glx version string: 1.4 client glx extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group GLX extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 845G 20040919 x86/MMX/SSE2 OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 6.2.1 OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_compression, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_texture_rectangle, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object, GL_ARB_vertex_program, GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array, GL_EXT_convolution, GL_EXT_copy_texture, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_EXT_histogram, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays, GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_point_parameters, GL_EXT_polygon_offset, GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color, GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, GL_EXT_subtexture, GL_EXT_texture, GL_EXT_texture3D, GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_texture_rectangle, GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_3DFX_texture_compression_FXT1, GL_APPLE_client_storage, GL_APPLE_packed_pixels, GL_ATI_blend_equation_separate, GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip, GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_INGR_blend_func_separate, GL_MESA_pack_invert, GL_MESA_ycbcr_texture, GL_MESA_window_pos, GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_light_max_exponent, GL_NV_texture_rectangle, GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_NV_vertex_program, GL_NV_vertex_program1_1, GL_SGI_color_matrix, GL_SGI_color_table, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_lod, GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays glu version: 1.3 glu extensions: GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat -- 0x23 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x24 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x25 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x26 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x27 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 0 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x28 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 0 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x29 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x2a 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x2b 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x2c 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x2d 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x2e 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x2f 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 0 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x30 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 0 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x31 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow 0x32 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow Here is the output from xdpyinfo: name of display::0.0 version number:11.0 vendor string:The X.Org Foundation vendor release number:60802000 X.Org version: 6.8.2 maximum request size: 16777212 bytes motion buffer size: 256 bitmap unit,
Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
On November 19, 2005 10:32 pm, David C. Chipman wrote: Hi all, Here is the output from glxinfo: [snip] I hope this helps someone on the list. -David Chipman So what card are you using? Ampere ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
Hi Ampere, In dmesg I see: agpgart: Detected an Intel 845G Chipset. I hope that answers the question. It's on the motherboard, remember. -David Chipman ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
David C. Chipman wrote: Hi Ampere, In dmesg I see: agpgart: Detected an Intel 845G Chipset. I hope that answers the question. It's on the motherboard, remember. -David Chipman For Linux I've heard of people having excellent results with nvidia, pretty ok results with ati (with some problems that crop up occasionally.) And I've never heard of anyone running any serious opengl applications with any other cards/chipsets. You might want to throw a cheap nvidia card in your machine and I bet your luck will improve rapidly. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
Hi Curtis, I'm running a 32mb geforce2 mx card on win me and get opening file: C:/Program Files/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat C:/Program Files/FlightGear/data/Navaids/TACAN_freq.dat Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting... Possible cause: No error any ideas? Dene From: Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FlightGear user discussions flightgear-users@flightgear.org To: FlightGear user discussions flightgear-users@flightgear.org Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 23:13:39 -0600 David C. Chipman wrote: Hi Ampere, In dmesg I see: agpgart: Detected an Intel 845G Chipset. I hope that answers the question. It's on the motherboard, remember. -David Chipman For Linux I've heard of people having excellent results with nvidia, pretty ok results with ati (with some problems that crop up occasionally.) And I've never heard of anyone running any serious opengl applications with any other cards/chipsets. You might want to throw a cheap nvidia card in your machine and I bet your luck will improve rapidly. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae _ Become a fitness fanatic @ http://xtramsn.co.nz/health ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d