Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-21 Thread Curtis L. Olson

Enrique Vaamonde wrote:


I second the request for trying to get to the bottom of this issue. I
reported a few weeks back that both 0.9.8 and cvs would segfault on me
whenever I flew around the default San Francisco at night. It works fine
in that area on daylight, and works fine when flying at night in other
areas. I also am unable to use the newer 3D clouds, although shadows do
work.

I have a laptop with an ATI Mobility 9000 with 64MB, and this problem
has been around for the latest 3 binary driver releases for x.org (I'm
using debian sid / unstable).

I have started to lurk into the rendering code to see if I can spot
anything, but it's been quite a learning curve :)
 



We should be careful to keep issues separate.  You are talking about 
something that has affected you for both v0.9.8 and v0.9.9.  There is a 
separate problem for people that has just been introduced with v0.9.9 ...


And for what it's worth, people over the years have reported a variety 
of glitches with ATI hardware running open-source drivers.  That doesn't 
mean you should run them, they open-source driver testers need bug 
reporters too, but just understand what you are getting yourself into.


Regards,

Curt.

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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-21 Thread Richard Keech



David C. Chipman wrote:

 

	Hi all, 


This is the error I get in the terminal window when starting 
fgfs:

opening file: /usr/share/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat
X Error of failed request:  GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest
Major opcode of failed request:  143 (GLX)
Minor opcode of failed request:  16 (X_GLXVendorPrivate)
Serial number of failed request:  42
Current serial number in output stream:  43
   

I too see this issue and it is preventing me from being able to use 
0.9.9 at all.   My PC is able to run 0.9.8 with no issue.  0.9.9 fails 
with the

GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest error.

My platform is Linux (Fedora Core 4),  Intel 32-bit, ATI 9600SE video 
with open source drivers.  My reading of this is that the FG code now 
generates an X Window request that is non-standard and which only works 
with some cards.


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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-21 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Sonntag 20 November 2005 21:06, Erik Hofman wrote:
 Ampere K. Hardraade wrote:
  I have been using FlightGear since 0.9.4, and all previous versions of
  FlightGear ran fine on my old motherboard with i810.  So, I'm sure his
  i845 would have no problem with FlightGear.  I can bet that 0.9.8 would
  run fine on his machine while 0.9.9 doesn't.

 Did you try disabling all of the new rendering features like shadows and
 3d clouds?
Erik, it happens when the render texture does its initialization.
As far as I can see this is not a problem how flightgear call the glx 
functions. It is just that the client uses some glx request the x server does 
not understand.
But given that the x-server announces that it has pbuffers as extension 
available it should accept that glx request instead of bailing out ...
Since the Xorg/Mesa glx code uses the same codepath for glx-1.4 pbuffer and 
sgixpbuffer, the way how it is implemented in rendertexture will most 
propably not the problem.
In fact, at the time I used the r200 driver, before we started using the 
glx-1.4 pbuffer code, I had the exactly same problem with the sgipbuffers.
In summary, I believe that this is a Xorg Problem.

Since some components, namely the 3d clouds initialize rendertexture even if 
it is unused, just disabling would not help.

I tried to reorganize that code not to initialize until it is really required, 
but that was more problematic than I could solve in that short time I had for 
that task.

May be somebody wants to look into that stuff and initialize render texture 
only if it is really required.
That would at least help those people who can live without the 3d clouds ...

Greetings

   Mathias

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RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Innis Cunningham

 Hi Dene
 Not that this will be much use to you but see my post Great 9.9.
 All I did was uninstall 9.5 with the uninstall shield and run the setup
 wizard and every thing worked fine.
 As for cards and drivers the 98SE version is using directX from a long
 time ago and I have not updated the drivers since the card was installed.
 Have you tried runing with the Nimitz senario disabled.
 I will be installing 9.9 on my other windows box today will see if I have
 any
 problems with that(2G athlon with FX5200 graphics)still running 98SE


   dene maxwell writes
 
 While waiting for an answer(and feeling like a seagull with a broken wing
 :-) I blew away the FG folder and tried a fresh installsame result
 
 Uninstalled through the Control Panel and reinstalled 0.9.9same
 result
 
 Loaded 0.9.8 over the top of 0.9.9 and it runs as before.
 
 No pressure, but are any of the FG guru's investigating this?   I am
 really feeling empathy for birds with broken wings  LOL
 

What's the issue with the Nimitz demo?

Vivian


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RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-20 Thread dene maxwell


I dunno what the issue is but it has been suggested that I disable it. I 
would, but I can't find where to?


Dene


From: Vivian Meazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: 'FlightGear user discussions' flightgear-users@flightgear.org
Subject: RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 10:40:41 -

Innis Cunningham

 Hi Dene
 Not that this will be much use to you but see my post Great 9.9.
 All I did was uninstall 9.5 with the uninstall shield and run the setup
 wizard and every thing worked fine.
 As for cards and drivers the 98SE version is using directX from a long
 time ago and I have not updated the drivers since the card was 
installed.

 Have you tried runing with the Nimitz senario disabled.
 I will be installing 9.9 on my other windows box today will see if I 
have

 any
 problems with that(2G athlon with FX5200 graphics)still running 98SE


   dene maxwell writes
 
 While waiting for an answer(and feeling like a seagull with a broken 
wing

 :-) I blew away the FG folder and tried a fresh installsame result
 
 Uninstalled through the Control Panel and reinstalled 0.9.9same
 result
 
 Loaded 0.9.8 over the top of 0.9.9 and it runs as before.
 
 No pressure, but are any of the FG guru's investigating this?   I am
 really feeling empathy for birds with broken wings  LOL
 

What's the issue with the Nimitz demo?

Vivian


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RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
dene maxwell

 
 I dunno what the issue is but it has been suggested that I disable it. I
 would, but I can't find where to?
 
 Dene
 
 From: Vivian Meazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: FlightGear user discussions flightgear-users@flightgear.org
 To: 'FlightGear user discussions' flightgear-users@flightgear.org
 Subject: RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 10:40:41 -
 
 Innis Cunningham
 
   Hi Dene
   Not that this will be much use to you but see my post Great 9.9.
   All I did was uninstall 9.5 with the uninstall shield and run the
 setup
   wizard and every thing worked fine.
   As for cards and drivers the 98SE version is using directX from a long
   time ago and I have not updated the drivers since the card was
 installed.
   Have you tried runing with the Nimitz senario disabled.
   I will be installing 9.9 on my other windows box today will see if I
 have
   any
   problems with that(2G athlon with FX5200 graphics)still running 98SE
 
 
 dene maxwell writes
   
   While waiting for an answer(and feeling like a seagull with a broken
 wing
   :-) I blew away the FG folder and tried a fresh installsame
 result
   
   Uninstalled through the Control Panel and reinstalled 0.9.9same
   result
   
   Loaded 0.9.8 over the top of 0.9.9 and it runs as before.
   
   No pressure, but are any of the FG guru's investigating this?   I
 am
   really feeling empathy for birds with broken wings  LOL
   
 
 What's the issue with the Nimitz demo?
 
 Vivian

Comment out the relevant line in preferences.xml

Don't know what problem it's meant to solve though - AFAIK it's bug free -
I'd like to no if someone has found a problem with it.

V.


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RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-20 Thread Gerard ROBIN
Le dimanche 20 novembre 2005 à 12:16 +, Vivian Meazza a écrit :
 dene maxwell
 
  
  I
No pressure, but are any of the FG guru's investigating this?   I
  am
really feeling empathy for birds with broken wings  LOL

  
  What's the issue with the Nimitz demo?
  
  Vivian
 
 Comment out the relevant line in preferences.xml
 
 Don't know what problem it's meant to solve though - AFAIK it's bug free -
 I'd like to no if someone has found a problem with it.
 
 V.
Working perfectly, as usual.

Only a little visual defect inside Hangar near to Elevator 1 (face not
triangulated).
Here:http://ghours.club.fr/AC-carrierHangar.jpg


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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-20 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Sunday 20 November 2005 13:49, Gerard ROBIN wrote:
 Working perfectly, as usual.

 Only a little visual defect inside Hangar near to Elevator 1 (face not
 triangulated).
 Here:http://ghours.club.fr/AC-carrierHangar.jpg

Actually I think that that defect is the result of two faces ocupying the same 
real estate. There are a few more places on the Nimitz where more than one 
face is fighting for the exact same plane in space.

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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-20 Thread Gerard ROBIN
Le dimanche 20 novembre 2005 à 15:40 +0100, Roy Vegard Ovesen a écrit :
 On Sunday 20 November 2005 13:49, Gerard ROBIN wrote:
  Working perfectly, as usual.
 
  Only a little visual defect inside Hangar near to Elevator 1 (face not
  triangulated).
  Here:http://ghours.club.fr/AC-carrierHangar.jpg
 
 Actually I think that that defect is the result of two faces ocupying the 
 same 
 real estate. There are a few more places on the Nimitz where more than one 
 face is fighting for the exact same plane in space.
 
No i did solve it on my side.
When a hole is defined only with vertex without any handle to fix it
(surfaces triangulated), the display process connect directly each
vertex, so you get a virtual face inside the hole.

Cheers

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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-20 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On November 20, 2005 12:13 am, Curtis L. Olson wrote:
 For Linux I've heard of people having excellent results with nvidia,
 pretty ok results with ati (with some problems that crop up
 occasionally.)  And I've never heard of anyone running any serious
 opengl applications with any other cards/chipsets.  You might want to
 throw a cheap nvidia card in your machine and I bet your luck will
 improve rapidly.

 Regards,

 Curt.

I have been using FlightGear since 0.9.4, and all previous versions of 
FlightGear ran fine on my old motherboard with i810.  So, I'm sure his i845 
would have no problem with FlightGear.  I can bet that 0.9.8 would run fine 
on his machine while 0.9.9 doesn't.

Several people, including me, have been experiencing problems with FlightGear 
0.9.9.  For me, I actually began experience problems ever since I started 
using 0.9.8 CVS.  We have one similarity: we don't have Nvidia card.  While 
we could all get ourselves Nvidia cards and get around the problem, I really 
don't see it as a realistic option.

Ampere

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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-20 Thread Erik Hofman

Ampere K. Hardraade wrote:

I have been using FlightGear since 0.9.4, and all previous versions of 
FlightGear ran fine on my old motherboard with i810.  So, I'm sure his i845 
would have no problem with FlightGear.  I can bet that 0.9.8 would run fine 
on his machine while 0.9.9 doesn't.


Did you try disabling all of the new rendering features like shadows and 
3d clouds?


Erik

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[Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-20 Thread Rodrigo Flores


This crash comes when I selected a GMT time 11:55...
When I select default time noon, FG runs ok..
Still no shadow here, just to clarify, I never complain
about clouds shadow..


opening file: C:/Arquivos de 
programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat

C:/Arquivos de programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/TACAN_freq.dat
Failed to find runway 28R at airport SBFT
Altitude = 2170
Temp at alt (C) = 24
Temp sea level (C) = 28.4327
Altitude = 2170
Dewpoint at alt (C) = 14
Dewpoint at sea level (C) = 14.434
Initialising callsign using 'Aircraft/c172p/Models/c172p.xml'
Initializing Nasal Electrical System
opening file: C:/Arquivos de 
programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat

C:/Arquivos de programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/TACAN_freq.dat
Failed to find runway 28R at airport SBFT
Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting...
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RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Rodrigo Flores

 
 This crash comes when I selected a GMT time 11:55...
 When I select default time noon, FG runs ok..
 Still no shadow here, just to clarify, I never complain
 about clouds shadow..
 
 
 opening file: C:/Arquivos de
 programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat
 C:/Arquivos de programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/TACAN_freq.dat
 Failed to find runway 28R at airport SBFT
 Altitude = 2170
 Temp at alt (C) = 24
 Temp sea level (C) = 28.4327
 Altitude = 2170
 Dewpoint at alt (C) = 14
 Dewpoint at sea level (C) = 14.434
 Initialising callsign using 'Aircraft/c172p/Models/c172p.xml'
 Initializing Nasal Electrical System
 opening file: C:/Arquivos de
 programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat
 C:/Arquivos de programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/TACAN_freq.dat
 Failed to find runway 28R at airport SBFT
 Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting...
 Possible cause: No error
 

Works here using 11:55:00. Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting...
is often seen with sound card problems, usually drivers.

V.


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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-20 Thread Rodrigo Flores

Hello Vivian,

I have SB5.1 live  (dell) and just checked  SB website and my
driver is updated, thanks anyway

- Original Message - 
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To: 'FlightGear user discussions' flightgear-users@flightgear.org
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 8:45 PM
Subject: RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup



Rodrigo Flores



This crash comes when I selected a GMT time 11:55...
When I select default time noon, FG runs ok..
Still no shadow here, just to clarify, I never complain
about clouds shadow..


opening file: C:/Arquivos de
programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat
C:/Arquivos de programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/TACAN_freq.dat
Failed to find runway 28R at airport SBFT
Altitude = 2170
Temp at alt (C) = 24
Temp sea level (C) = 28.4327
Altitude = 2170
Dewpoint at alt (C) = 14
Dewpoint at sea level (C) = 14.434
Initialising callsign using 'Aircraft/c172p/Models/c172p.xml'
Initializing Nasal Electrical System
opening file: C:/Arquivos de
programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat
C:/Arquivos de programas/FlightGear/data/Navaids/TACAN_freq.dat
Failed to find runway 28R at airport SBFT
Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting...
Possible cause: No error



Works here using 11:55:00. Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting...
is often seen with sound card problems, usually drivers.

V.


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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-20 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On November 20, 2005 03:06 pm, Erik Hofman wrote:
 Did you try disabling all of the new rendering features like shadows and
 3d clouds?

 Erik

Yes.

I'm pretty sure that this is an imcompatibility issue from SimGear's end, and 
not some problems that is caused by misconfigurations or faulty libraries on 
my side.

Ampere

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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-20 Thread Enrique Vaamonde
I second the request for trying to get to the bottom of this issue. I
reported a few weeks back that both 0.9.8 and cvs would segfault on me
whenever I flew around the default San Francisco at night. It works fine
in that area on daylight, and works fine when flying at night in other
areas. I also am unable to use the newer 3D clouds, although shadows do
work.

I have a laptop with an ATI Mobility 9000 with 64MB, and this problem
has been around for the latest 3 binary driver releases for x.org (I'm
using debian sid / unstable).

I have started to lurk into the rendering code to see if I can spot
anything, but it's been quite a learning curve :)

thanks,
-E

David C. Chipman wrote:

   Hi all, 

   This is the error I get in the terminal window when starting 
 fgfs:

opening file: /usr/share/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat
X Error of failed request:  GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest
  Major opcode of failed request:  143 (GLX)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  16 (X_GLXVendorPrivate)
  Serial number of failed request:  42
  Current serial number in output stream:  43

   Thanks, 

   -David Chipman


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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-20 Thread dene maxwell
I ran 0.9.8a on a 1.8Ghz P4, Me, 32Mbyte Nvidia GeForce2 MX card with almost 
no problems. Certainly none that stopped enjoying the FG flying experience.


0.9.9 won't even load, the general gist of the threads on this subject seem 
to be suggesting that various features are disabled in the preferences.xml 
to try and find out what's stopping it running.


I'll be trying this when I get a chance really looking forward to the 
new features but its a balancing act with actually getting some flying in!!


Dene



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To: FlightGear user discussions flightgear-users@flightgear.org
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 13:46:38 -0500

On November 20, 2005 12:13 am, Curtis L. Olson wrote:
 For Linux I've heard of people having excellent results with nvidia,
 pretty ok results with ati (with some problems that crop up
 occasionally.)  And I've never heard of anyone running any serious
 opengl applications with any other cards/chipsets.  You might want to
 throw a cheap nvidia card in your machine and I bet your luck will
 improve rapidly.

 Regards,

 Curt.

I have been using FlightGear since 0.9.4, and all previous versions of
FlightGear ran fine on my old motherboard with i810.  So, I'm sure his i845
would have no problem with FlightGear.  I can bet that 0.9.8 would run fine
on his machine while 0.9.9 doesn't.

Several people, including me, have been experiencing problems with 
FlightGear

0.9.9.  For me, I actually began experience problems ever since I started
using 0.9.8 CVS.  We have one similarity: we don't have Nvidia card.  While
we could all get ourselves Nvidia cards and get around the problem, I 
really

don't see it as a realistic option.

Ampere

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[Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-19 Thread David C. Chipman
Hi all, 

This is the error I get in the terminal window when starting 
fgfs:

opening file: /usr/share/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat
X Error of failed request:  GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest
  Major opcode of failed request:  143 (GLX)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  16 (X_GLXVendorPrivate)
  Serial number of failed request:  42
  Current serial number in output stream:  43

Thanks, 

-David Chipman


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RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-19 Thread dene maxwell
While waiting for an answer(and feeling like a seagull with a broken wing 
:-) I blew away the FG folder and tried a fresh installsame result


Uninstalled through the Control Panel and reinstalled 0.9.9same result

Loaded 0.9.8 over the top of 0.9.9 and it runs as before.

No pressure, but are any of the FG guru's investigating this?   I am 
really feeling empathy for birds with broken wings  LOL


Dene



From: David C. Chipman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: flightgear-users@flightgear.org
Subject: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 19:09:44 -0500

Hi all,

This is the error I get in the terminal window when starting 
fgfs:

opening file: /usr/share/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat
X Error of failed request:  GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest
  Major opcode of failed request:  143 (GLX)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  16 (X_GLXVendorPrivate)
  Serial number of failed request:  42
  Current serial number in output stream:  43

Thanks,

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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-19 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On November 19, 2005 07:09 pm, David C. Chipman wrote:
   Hi all,

   This is the error I get in the terminal window when starting 
 fgfs:

 opening file: /usr/share/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat
 X Error of failed request:  GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest
   Major opcode of failed request:  143 (GLX)
   Minor opcode of failed request:  16 (X_GLXVendorPrivate)
   Serial number of failed request:  42
   Current serial number in output stream:  43

Welcome to the club!

On November 19, 2005 07:26 pm, dene maxwell wrote:
 While waiting for an answer(and feeling like a seagull with a broken wing

 :-) I blew away the FG folder and tried a fresh installsame result

 Uninstalled through the Control Panel and reinstalled 0.9.9same result

 Loaded 0.9.8 over the top of 0.9.9 and it runs as before.

Let me guess: ATI user?

 No pressure, but are any of the FG guru's investigating this?   I am
 really feeling empathy for birds with broken wings  LOL

 Dene

I hope so, because I too am being plagued by this problem.

Ampere

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RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-19 Thread Innis Cunningham

Hi Dene
Not that this will be much use to you but see my post Great 9.9.
All I did was uninstall 9.5 with the uninstall shield and run the setup
wizard and every thing worked fine.
As for cards and drivers the 98SE version is using directX from a long
time ago and I have not updated the drivers since the card was installed.
Have you tried runing with the Nimitz senario disabled.
I will be installing 9.9 on my other windows box today will see if I have 
any

problems with that(2G athlon with FX5200 graphics)still running 98SE

Cheers
Innis

 dene maxwell writes


While waiting for an answer(and feeling like a seagull with a broken wing 
:-) I blew away the FG folder and tried a fresh installsame result


Uninstalled through the Control Panel and reinstalled 0.9.9same result

Loaded 0.9.8 over the top of 0.9.9 and it runs as before.

No pressure, but are any of the FG guru's investigating this?   I am 
really feeling empathy for birds with broken wings  LOL


Dene




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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-19 Thread David C. Chipman
Hi Ampere + Others, 

Actually I'm an Intel user (on-board video). I'm glad this 
isn't just
a freak problem I'm having, though I'm surprised to see this kind of
show-stopper of an error in a ver. 0.9.9 program... I hope they get this
figured out. Is there anybody here who is also on the devel list?
Later, 

-David Chipman
On Sat, 2005-11-19 at 20:03 -0500, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote:
 On November 19, 2005 07:09 pm, David C. Chipman wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  This is the error I get in the terminal window when starting 
  fgfs:
 
  opening file: /usr/share/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat
  X Error of failed request:  GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest
Major opcode of failed request:  143 (GLX)
Minor opcode of failed request:  16 (X_GLXVendorPrivate)
Serial number of failed request:  42
Current serial number in output stream:  43
 
 Welcome to the club!
 
 On November 19, 2005 07:26 pm, dene maxwell wrote:
  While waiting for an answer(and feeling like a seagull with a broken wing
 
  :-) I blew away the FG folder and tried a fresh installsame result
 
  Uninstalled through the Control Panel and reinstalled 0.9.9same result
 
  Loaded 0.9.8 over the top of 0.9.9 and it runs as before.
 
 Let me guess: ATI user?
 
  No pressure, but are any of the FG guru's investigating this?   I am
  really feeling empathy for birds with broken wings  LOL
 
  Dene
 
 I hope so, because I too am being plagued by this problem.
 
 Ampere
 
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RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-19 Thread dene maxwell
I've uninstalled everything every way I know how how do you disable the 
Nimitz Scenario?


I noted in the readme file that the 3D Clouds (experimental) has been 
removed and replaced by the new clouds but the 3D Clouds (experimenta)l 
still appears in the FlightGear Wizard at startupis this significant?


Thanks
Dene


From: Innis Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: flightgear-users@flightgear.org
Subject: RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:09:29 +0800

Hi Dene
Not that this will be much use to you but see my post Great 9.9.
All I did was uninstall 9.5 with the uninstall shield and run the setup
wizard and every thing worked fine.
As for cards and drivers the 98SE version is using directX from a long
time ago and I have not updated the drivers since the card was installed.
Have you tried runing with the Nimitz senario disabled.
I will be installing 9.9 on my other windows box today will see if I have 
any

problems with that(2G athlon with FX5200 graphics)still running 98SE

Cheers
Innis

 dene maxwell writes


While waiting for an answer(and feeling like a seagull with a broken wing 
:-) I blew away the FG folder and tried a fresh installsame result


Uninstalled through the Control Panel and reinstalled 0.9.9same result

Loaded 0.9.8 over the top of 0.9.9 and it runs as before.

No pressure, but are any of the FG guru's investigating this?   I am 
really feeling empathy for birds with broken wings  LOL


Dene




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RE: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-19 Thread David C. Chipman
Hi all, 

Here is the output from glxinfo:

name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, 
GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_OML_swap_method,
GLX_SGI_make_current_read, 
GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig
client glx vendor string: SGI
client glx version string: 1.4
client glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample,
GLX_EXT_import_context, 
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,
GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, 
GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage,
GLX_OML_swap_method, 
GLX_OML_sync_control, GLX_SGI_make_current_read,
GLX_SGI_swap_control, 
GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, 
GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group
GLX extensions:
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample,
GLX_EXT_import_context, 
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,
GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, 
GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read,
GLX_SGIS_multisample, 
GLX_SGIX_fbconfig
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 845G 20040919 x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 6.2.1
OpenGL extensions:
GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_multitexture, 
GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, 
GL_ARB_texture_compression, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, 
GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, 
GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, 
GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_texture_rectangle, 
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object, 
GL_ARB_vertex_program, GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, 
GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate, 
GL_EXT_blend_func_separate, GL_EXT_blend_minmax,
GL_EXT_blend_subtract, 
GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array,
GL_EXT_convolution, 
GL_EXT_copy_texture, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord, 
GL_EXT_histogram, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays, GL_EXT_packed_pixels, 
GL_EXT_point_parameters, GL_EXT_polygon_offset,
GL_EXT_rescale_normal, 
GL_EXT_secondary_color, GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, 
GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, GL_EXT_subtexture, GL_EXT_texture,
GL_EXT_texture3D, 
GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, 
GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, 
GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, 
GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_texture_rectangle,
GL_EXT_vertex_array, 
GL_3DFX_texture_compression_FXT1, GL_APPLE_client_storage, 
GL_APPLE_packed_pixels, GL_ATI_blend_equation_separate, 
GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip, GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, 
GL_INGR_blend_func_separate, GL_MESA_pack_invert,
GL_MESA_ycbcr_texture, 
GL_MESA_window_pos, GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_light_max_exponent, 
GL_NV_texture_rectangle, GL_NV_texgen_reflection,
GL_NV_vertex_program, 
GL_NV_vertex_program1_1, GL_SGI_color_matrix, GL_SGI_color_table, 
GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp, 
GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_lod,
GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess

   visual  x  bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer  ms  cav
 id dep cl sp sz l  ci b ro  r  g  b  a bf th cl  r  g  b  a ns b eat
--
0x23 24 tc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x24 24 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x25 24 tc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x26 24 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x27 24 tc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 Slow
0x28 24 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 Slow
0x29 24 tc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 Slow
0x2a 24 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 Slow
0x2b 24 dc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x2c 24 dc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x2d 24 dc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x2e 24 dc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x2f 24 dc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 Slow
0x30 24 dc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 Slow
0x31 24 dc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 Slow
0x32 24 dc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 Slow

Here is the output from xdpyinfo:

name of display::0.0
version number:11.0
vendor string:The X.Org Foundation
vendor release number:60802000
X.Org version: 6.8.2
maximum request size:  16777212 bytes
motion buffer size:  256
bitmap unit, 

Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-19 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On November 19, 2005 10:32 pm, David C. Chipman wrote:
   Hi all,

   Here is the output from glxinfo:

 [snip]
   I hope this helps someone on the list.

   -David Chipman

So what card are you using?

Ampere

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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-19 Thread David C. Chipman
Hi Ampere, 

In dmesg I see: 

agpgart: Detected an Intel 845G Chipset.

I hope that answers the question. It's on the motherboard, 
remember.

-David Chipman



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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-19 Thread Curtis L. Olson

David C. Chipman wrote:

	Hi Ampere, 

		In dmesg I see: 


agpgart: Detected an Intel 845G Chipset.

I hope that answers the question. It's on the motherboard, 
remember.

-David Chipman
 



For Linux I've heard of people having excellent results with nvidia, 
pretty ok results with ati (with some problems that crop up 
occasionally.)  And I've never heard of anyone running any serious 
opengl applications with any other cards/chipsets.  You might want to 
throw a cheap nvidia card in your machine and I bet your luck will 
improve rapidly.


Regards,

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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup

2005-11-19 Thread dene maxwell

Hi Curtis,
I'm running a 32mb geforce2 mx card on win me and get

opening file: C:/Program Files/FlightGear/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat
C:/Program Files/FlightGear/data/Navaids/TACAN_freq.dat
Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting...
Possible cause: No error

any ideas?

Dene


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Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear 0.9.9 Crashing on startup
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 23:13:39 -0600

David C. Chipman wrote:


Hi Ampere,

In dmesg I see:

agpgart: Detected an Intel 845G Chipset.

I hope that answers the question. It's on the motherboard, 
remember.

-David Chipman




For Linux I've heard of people having excellent results with nvidia, pretty 
ok results with ati (with some problems that crop up occasionally.)  And 
I've never heard of anyone running any serious opengl applications with any 
other cards/chipsets.  You might want to throw a cheap nvidia card in your 
machine and I bet your luck will improve rapidly.


Regards,

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