Re: FLUXLIST: Trial by e-jury

2000-06-24 Thread Heiko Recktenwald
No. (This is an old fallacious argument in favor of censure.) Most lists are _not 'moderated.' These lists achieve their own *collectively inherent and interesting vitality/direction. I would second this. But there are second and third wave lists, that do moderate, more or less satisfying.

Re: FLUXLIST: The inconstancy of constants

2000-06-24 Thread BestPoet
http://www.sheldrake.org/experiments/constants/ A very interesting read . . . physicist Rupert Sheldrake (the guy who gave us "morphic resonance"--one of my fave theories) asks the question: Do physical constants fluctuate? Like maybe the speed of light IS NOT the constant we thought it was.

Re: FLUXLIST: The inconstancy of constants

2000-06-24 Thread David Baptiste Chirot
I did not know that anyone imagined the course of nature to be blandly uniform. On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.sheldrake.org/experiments/constants/ A very interesting read . . . physicist Rupert Sheldrake (the guy who gave us "morphic

Re: FLUXLIST: Favorite words found on a Saturday morning . . .

2000-06-24 Thread BestPoet
cosmic fecundity lingering Platonism mutant constants the psychology of metrologists -- regarding inaccurate measurements due to: intellectual phase locking the permittivity of free space

FLUXLIST: Dead horse beaten

2000-06-24 Thread Ken Friedman
C'mon, guys. There is a list here, and by definition, the owners and subscribers of this list constitute a community of some kind. The exact nature of that community is arguably vague, but it's sophistry to suggest that the listowners ought to start a private mailing-list. The listowners

FLUXLIST: e-trial (Dead horse beaten)

2000-06-24 Thread ddyment
rather than spout off as i am wont to do i figured i'd wait it out until ken posted with a reasonable, well-thought out request that this subject be laid to rest. thanks ken, dave

FLUXLIST: wild horses couldn't drag me away

2000-06-24 Thread David Baptiste Chirot
First-- In joining any list, one is made aware of the rules and guidelines of the list. One enters into a contract with these in joining. Of course, with time and experience, one may find oneself disagreeing with the tenor and tenets of the list.

FLUXLIST: Fwd: Re: Schwitters/Dada Club card member (fwd)

2000-06-24 Thread David Baptiste Chirot
Bertrand--vous avez bien raison--your "remembers are good": have just been rereading for the manyth time DADA ART AND ANTI-ART by Hans Richter and POEMS PERFORMANCES PIECES PROSES PLAYS POETICS by Kurt Schwitters for an essay i am working on. ( usually anyway

Re: FLUXLIST: Trial by e-jury

2000-06-24 Thread ann klefstad
Free Fluxlist Now! /:b It is free. It's a collective, which is self-governing. People are free to say what they like, but no one is free to silence others with insult and obscenity, or impose such noise on ongoing discussion that the discussion becomes impossible. Emotion is fine. What Sol

Re: FLUXLIST: Trial by e-jury

2000-06-24 Thread ann klefstad
Kathy! Wonderful Commonplace Book of thoughts on liberty; thank you for your research and your thoughtfulness. Having children, I am, by default, initially an autocrat and must gradually cede to them their liberty. Being by instinct someone who takes a fair amount of license for herself--a real

FLUXLIST: horses, dead and alive

2000-06-24 Thread ann klefstad
Ken and others: I know it tries peoples' patience when topics get ground up fine, but eventually boredom instantiates creativity, or at least research, and genuinely interesting things can happen as a result (see Forer, Kathy, 2000). On a list in which Cage's works are often under discussion,

Re: FLUXLIST: wild horses couldn't drag me away

2000-06-24 Thread Eryk Salvaggio
This is brilliant. Consider this a second to any motion it may call for. David Baptiste Chirot wrote: First-- In joining any list, one is made aware of the rules and guidelines of the list. One enters into a contract with these in joining. Of course, with time and

Re: FLUXLIST: Trial by e-jury

2000-06-24 Thread Eryk Salvaggio
If you don't like america, Brad, why don't you go to China, see how you like it there! Bertrand et Claudia CLAVEZ wrote: FREE BRAD BRACE NOW!! LET HIM GO OUT OF THIS CENSURED PLACE NOW!! as he seems to ask for... bertrand

FLUXLIST: Fwd: Re: Schwitters/Dada Club card member

2000-06-24 Thread dave-baptiste chirot
Bertrand--vous avez bien raison--your "remembers are good": have just been rereading for the manyth time DADA ART AND ANTI-ART by Hans Richter and POEMS PERFORMANCES PIECES PROSES PLAYS POETICS by Kurt Schwitters for an essay i am working on. ( usually anyway

FLUXLIST: THE ARSFUTURA SHOW

2000-06-24 Thread info
THE ARSFUTURA SHOW June 3rd to July 8th, 2000 Opening: Friday, June 2nd, 18.00 - 21.00h http://www.arsfutura.ch Eight years ago the idea arsFutura was realised: Promotion of contemporary art, focusing on New Media and Photography and a constant growth with and through the

No Subject

2000-06-24 Thread dave-baptiste chirot
First-- In joining any list, one is made aware of the rules and guidelines of the list. One enters into a contract with these in joining. Of course, with time and experience, one may find oneself disagreeing with the tenor and tenets of the list. This often happens.

[Fwd: FLUXLIST: How many listserv discussion list subscribers does it take tochange a light bulb?]

2000-06-24 Thread Eryk Salvaggio
Forwarded from John Hopkins at Neoscenes: -- How many listserv discussion list subscribers does it take to change a light bulb? Answer: 1,331 1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail list that the light bulb has been changed 14 to share similar experiences of changing

Re: FLUXLIST: wild horses couldn't drag me away

2000-06-24 Thread BestPoet
In a message dated 06/24/2000 11:54:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is a Zen parable relating to this idea of "beating a dead horse": There's also an Arkansas parable relating to this idea of a "dead horse". Billy Joe and Dwight were brothers who lived together,

Re: FLUXLIST: Trial by e-jury

2000-06-24 Thread R.Gancie/C.Parcelli
Free Fluxlist Now! /:b I appreciate brad's desire to have an open forum. I agree with him. -- rosalie gancie

FLUXLIST: Dead animals (fwd)

2000-06-24 Thread Carol Starr
carol starr taos, new mexico, usa [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 08:02:01 -0400 Subject: Dead animals Story in today's NY Times on the growing use of dead animals by artists-- http://www10.nytimes.com/library/arts/062400animal-art.html

Re: FLUXLIST: wild horses couldn't drag me away

2000-06-24 Thread Patricia
A horse was brought to life when the European dadaists stuck a knife in a dictionary in the word dada, which meant hobby-horse. Let us not beat a dead horse. Let us bring a horse to life, eh? And let it be a hobby-horse, and we can all ride it. Smile. Fluxus is watching you. PK [EMAIL

Re: FLUXLIST: Trial by e-jury

2000-06-24 Thread Heiko Recktenwald
The best lists I know are unmoderated. Sometimes, the "listowner" gives comments, but nor very often. And, btw, the best listowners I know are women. H.

Re: FLUXLIST: horses, dead and alive

2000-06-24 Thread Kathy Forer
ann klefstad wrote: (see Forer, Kathy, 2000) I'm not sure what this means, but as long as it's not Forer, Kathy (19XX-2000), it seems harmless enough ;) Forer, Kathy