My friend Barry is compiling a yellow list. Please help him out.
http://www.ecn.ou.edu/maul4826/www/yellow.htm
Myke
Don't forget that The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band was featured performing
"Death Cab For Cutie" onstage during the striptease sequence toward
the end of The Beatles 1967 Christmas TV special, "Magical Mystery Tour"!
Myke
and then, at other times, thirty fluxmessages come in all at once...
I'll say it again,...
They're 10 miles north on the Dewsbury Road and they're having
a lovely time!! :)
Myke
Trout Mask Replica
Shiny Beast (Bat Chain Puller)
Wow... Those are the two Captain Beefheart CDs in my collection.
I've thought about getting "Safe As Milk" for several years now as well.
Myke
Don Van Vliet.
How exactly is "Vliet" pronounced?
Myke
"Safe As Milk" was Beefheart's first album. Produced by Ry Cooder. In my
opinion, his style is not as fully developed as on later albums like Trout
Mask or Doc at the Radar Station.
That's pretty much in line with the things I've read about it in the past.
I think there is a review of the CD
Where oh where is the Dewsbury Road?
It's where people can go to have a lovely time!
Myke
Most of it. Lack of that sweet bit of knowledge must have been
preventing my enlightenment.
Help!
But that's another story...
Myke
Even in his day, I think Mozart had a publisher. And his music wouldn't have
survived if it hadn't been written down on paper.
Still, his music was legitimately "released" and later embraced by the public
all without the assistance of "cover art" which was my point. To feel a sense
of
XIXth century had even some of its best painters used to illustrate the
partitions of the most advanced composer of their time,
Which is why I attempted to blur the distinction between artwork at all
and artwork physically wrapping a musical storage medium. Put the artwork
and the music on a
There's a certain pleasure in cataloguing and organizing
things, and creating album covers with detailed liner notes is part of that
experience. It also helps us keep the flow of information about the band
going.
I agree. I'm not anti-artwork or anything like that. I just found it
a shame
the record would change over time as it accumulated dust and scratches.
Very fluxus! Very kewl.
Myke
yes it was called the white album but inside were photos of yoko and
john nude.
Whoops! Jolly, jolly, whoops! Jolly, jolly, jolly...
You're getting The Beatles 'white album' and JY's "Two Virgins"
confused! :)
Myke
I was thinking about the current mp3 craze,
Ah, I see. I was actually thinking about MiniDiscs.
A majority of my recordings are available on MiniDiscs but I have yet
to figure out a means by which to easily decorate the exteriors of these
beasties - and mass-duplications of such artwork is
I have an idea.
If you have a MiniDisc player let me know.
What's your snail-mailing address?
Myke
no of course, because the originality of the music was linked to the author,
and not to the interpret, as the pop music did since. However, we only
consider short periods of time, and nothing allows us to think that those
fetish LP covers will always remain the same in the future...
I'm now
That's a wild story behind your recording of the door closing!
My stereo mic just arrived last week. It has a very long wire which
splits in the middle and extends even further down to two separate mics
at the ends. Each mic has its own little clothespin shaped clip attached
to it. In the
Capitalism has made possible the highest standard of living known in the
history of mankind. I find it ironic that those who claim to work on
behalf of "the little guy" these days are those who too speak out the
most against capitalism.
Myke
So in capitalism, lots of people get rich,
I don't believe getting rich is the object of the capitalist game.
Yeah, it can and does happen quite a lot but that's not the goal.
The goal is to simply use it in an effort to improve your own life
and the lives of others in the process should you be
Unfortunately, "freedom", in this instance,
refers to the right to be foolish.
My freedom refers to my right to be responsible.
We use our freedoms to lose our freedoms.
Myke
Well said.
Myke
that pollution is because they're producing what
America no longer produces on American shores . . .
Even Communists see the inevitability of capitalistic practice for
economic survival. It's too bad those poor people over there aren't
allowed to truly benefit from their labor. If they only
Folks:
The latest virus is the "I Love You" virus.
DO NOT OPEN THE ATTACHMENT ON AN EMAIL WITH THE
SUBJECT "I LOVE YOU". (It infects your address
list).
Just a friendly warning...
Rod
And the Linux people laughed...
Myke
I would be outraged at others taking my work
without my permission and sharing it. Let alone the loss of
income.
I would think a majority of recording artists do what they do on
a full time basis. Take away their income and they'll find another
means by which to earn a living. I believe
I personally think MP3's are the coolest thing going.
No, I think that belongs to MiniDisc. I wish I knew why so many
people tend to think of audio files only in terms of the pre-recorded.
MP3s compress more than twice as much as do MiniDiscs and you just
can't go about with microphones on
But you can record it with minidisk and convert it to mp3 in a second
step. For email etc.
True, but there are a gazillion people out there who think they have
no use for MiniDiscs because they have MP3 capability. For some crazy
reason, people see them as competing mediums when really MP3
And what you do with it sounds promising !! Couldnt you burn something ?
What exactly are you saying/asking?
I don't understand your message.
Myke
syquest 135 is/was better to use and faster but zip became the standard.
Another example. Why must we always settle for less?
I still find the microphone handeling awkward.
www.minidisco.com has three stereo mics available.
They are all small and custom made which makes them a bit pricey
I still find the microphone handeling awkward. Maybe there is an ear
implant mike in the future.
www.minidisco.com also has a stereo mic which can be attached to your
sunglasses' earpieces.
Myke
Paintings are experienced at once.
Albums are experienced through time.
Myke
I need to research some artists who have
dealt with socio-economic issues and wonder
if you could recommend any.
Rush Limbaugh.
Myke
I tend to sit in one place for the duration of the 74 minute MD
'recording session.'
I've got a few tapes like that from way back when. Without any
serious editing capabilities for cassette like there is for MiniDisc,
however, I never really enjoyed the results unless there were a lot
of
What are good paintings ?
What good are paintings !
Myke
Please do burn your minidisks recording !!
I'm working on something currently. I recently asked the list for
addresses of people with MiniDisc players. So far, eight people have
responded - and from radically different parts of the planet at that!
That was the most interesting thing about the
I've read that Roger Waters used this technique to record the sound
effects for "The Final Cut" in 1982/3 which accounts for the spaciousness
and realism captured on that disc. This isn't gospel but I've read about
this in the Pink Floyd FAQ in reference to the term "holophonics" being
used in
Let he who is a good painting cast the first stone!
Let he who is good and stoned paint my cast.
Myke
Myke, why not at least put together a short sampler of your music for
net-distribution?
I'm currently working on a similar project except its for MiniDisc users
only because that's the format which has been the most beneficial to me
since I began recording Ymphony!s nearly 17 years ago. I'm
It may be, "If this whole thing catches on", that we will begin to question
the very institution of private property itself.George
Yeah. But you don't know what you've got until it's gone.
The good thing about private property is that people always have greater
incentives to keep their own
If you could convince us to buy your music you can convince the world ;-)
My music is not for sale.
Myke
Roger,
We seem to be one at least a similar wavelength here.
John never did lose his working class sensibilities, that's for sure.
However, I cannot recall a single instance in which he actually practiced
what he preached when it came to possessions. As much as I admire and
respect the man for
I'm here because of my fascination with Yoko's art and the influences
she and John had directly on me which comes through in that which I
create.
Myke
Oh, Lord, it's so nice to create!
Actually, I've been told that we cannot truly create anything.
We can only rearrange that which has already been created.
But I'm not so sure. My recordings go beyond the physical.
Myke
Freidrich von Hayek
Freidrich von Hayek! Now, that's a name I've not heard since...
Myke
They both had their shortcomings, so what, we all do.
We all know John's. What were Jesus'?
Myke
You become wealthy and then you have a choice - do you
continue to practice your art anyway - or do you change?
It depends on whether or not your goal is to make art for
art's sake or to use art as a source of income.
Money makes certain things easier.
But does it necessarily diminish
God this is insufferable!!!
Think of it as Conversation Piece.
Myke
God this is insufferable!!!
I was quite enjoying it...
Me too.
Insufferable... Hmmm... Seems I've heard that word used in conjunction
with the title, "Cambridge 1969", a time or two in my life...
It's still a great piece, IMHO.
Myke
imagine there's no heaven, above us on--ly sky
And this, of course, assumes that there is a Heaven and not only sky
otherwise there'd be no need to imagine it the other way around, right?
Myke
it's the artist who has the satisfaction in the process
and the completion. After that, the viewer can make of it anything the viewer
wishes.
Yeah, like illegal MP3s to be distributed behind the artists' backs via the web.
Myke
I believe
John Lennon was less an hypocrite and more a dreamer and I don't
think that's all so bad.
It's not bad at all to be a dreamer, however, if you go through life
formulating opinions about how you think the world should be and you
write globally popular hit songs based upon your
So is there anyone here who refuses to buy used CD's? Myke?
I own nearly 1,700 CDs and a great many of them were purchased used.
Used CDs do not rob artists. One CD is expected to sell one time.
Whatever happens to it after that is irrelevant.
As for promo CDs, I have maybe 1 or 2. I don't
I meant the subject, not the incorrigible author. : )
: )
Myke
Adam, you've made excellent points.
I do not agree with the anarchist statement that "property is theft."
Wouldn't theft under anarchic conditions be OK anyway?
Myke
even though I think I'm paying too much to the wrong people.
There's no doubt about that if you buy CDs at major chain stores.
I avoid them like the plague. It costs less than US$2.00 to make
a CD (and that's an old figure) yet they sell them for US$15.99.
I know the artist(s) aren't getting
I'd __**- * really like to hear Myke's Ymponies now!
Ahem! They're Ymphony!s. Get it right! :)
How 'bout it? :) A little taste? Imagine.
If you don't have a MiniDisc player, Imagining them is about all you can
do. So just think along the lines of "Life With The Lions", "Two Virgins"
Ahem! They're Ymphony!s. Get it right! :)
oops!
Yes. It's very important that the spelling and punctuation are maintained!
If you don't have a MiniDisc player...
ah! but I _do! three in fact, one a lovely MD/CD/ boombox!
Did you respond to my request last month for mailing
This morning I heard on the radio that another email virus/worm thing is
making the rounds - only this time it changes its subject line from person
to person so it's harder to detect.
Now I have to visit the computer doctor
While you're there, tell him to get rid of WhenDoze and replace it
YES -- sorry windows suckaz -- get a MAC!!
Yes, and then install Linux on it!
Myke
Another case is sampling.
I frequently sample from CDs of well-known artists when I create
music of my own, however, the fun of that for me is to then take
the sampled sound and process it so that it is completely unrecognizeable.
I created an instrumental in 1994 called "Resurgence (A Night
Nobody can sell your works against your will, play it in the radio
etc. Musicians have never had control over private copying.
The point is that if people are going to routinely rip music from
CDs and distribute them via the internet or other means to their
friends and associates then at some
Ymphony!s are recorded compositions. If I ever need something to
accompany a live performance, they can be handy when no other intended
sound is available.
I am simply on the side of Metallica with this one. I buy a lot of
CDs and am happy to financially support the artists who entertain me.
free information is one of the consecuences of a technological revolution
announced from fifties sixties.
And I have no problems with free information when somebody associated
with its creation chooses to make it free. I have major problems, on
the other hand, when people just go about
lightworks is a great magazine with muchflux stuff in it. and charlton burch
is a very nice guy. buy back issues. send him lots of money.
How about if somebody scans the pages and rips the audio from their copies
and then puts them on the web for everybody to enjoy?
This would be very
spitelord,
Humourlord,
great idea. free advertising.
I knew I'd be in good company here on Fluxlist with such an idea! :)
Glad I thought of it first! Now what's that URL?
Email it to me privately please.
Myke
Ken,
Hi! I was not seriously suggesting what I suggested.
Thank you for so coherently defending my point of view.
Metallica = Charlton Burch = Lord Hasenpfeffer = All Artists Everywhere
As far as moral right - I'm constantly being told by atheists and agnostics
that my morals are worthless
Sol,
I am indeed an "old" C64 fan - well, more a C128 fan than C64 but you
knowhutimean. I didn't know you could program Gameboys with C.
Isn't that rather wasteful of your resources? Assembler is so
fat free that you just can't beat it no matter what you do.
Myke
I think Myke was was making a point
regarding earlier discussions about copyright...
Yes I was.
I think he meant the opposite...
Yes I did.
And still do.
e-mails don't do irony very well, do they?
No they don't.
or sarcasm...
I was smiling as I wrote it. I wasn't being sarcastic.
I
NEW YORK (AP) - Sales of recorded music near college campuses declined over
the past two years while rising elsewhere, according to a study the music
industry believes shows the corrosive impact of people downloading music for
free. Music sales during the first three months of 2000 were up 12%
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Myke
dear lord,
Yes?
i'm surprised you put metallica and charlton ahead of yourself.
Why?
as for college students paying less for music. well, yeah, they're in
college. they pay enough as it is, let 'em have some free music.
College is voluntary.
Let the poor souls have some free beer too.
But did you write a song which inspired millions?
I wrote an imaginary song which inspired imaginary millions, so...
Yes!!
Myke
we're list liberals ;-)
Hey Sol!
This is the one thing that has always bugged me about me.
The people who are most prone to appreciate my art detest my faith.
The people who are most prone to appreciate my faith detest my art.
So few people on either side of my fence are truly tolerant of me
First of all, what is "the new mentality"?
Anything that opposes mine.
(Not that the old mentality agreed with me either, but...)
Myke
is this a rare moment of humour? if so, hats off h.
ROFLMAO!!
Indeed it is! :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Myke
1. Globalism (First major art movement to be so)
9. Exemplativism (Live your beliefs)
Whoops! Looks like a severe conflict of interest here.
Somebody help me reconcile my exemplativism and my anti-globalism!!
Myke
Ah, I see how you see it. The "left" want to steal you something...
Eh?
But its the other way round: you want to take away the right to share music.
What?
Bla.
OK.
Myke
Dear Myke, arent you the one who engages himself for the metallica war ?
Yes, but what I was saying has nothing at all to do with "the metallica war"
situation or MP3s or anything like it.
That's why I'm confused by your reply.
Myke
In 1999 I asked the members of this list for body parts with which I
could begin building The Perfect Beast. In response, I received an ear,
a leg, a hand, a nose and a thingie. With those I set forth into motion
and now The Perfect Beast is built.
Many thanks to those who helped me to
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