Re: FLUXLIST: the creative act

2000-05-23 Thread Patricia
C'est la vie I meant to say, Selavy, as he was in touch with his feminine side... As Rrose Selavy See my rather blurry scan of my little known assemblage/collage, "Marcel Rrose, After Stella Ray" http://www.artden.freeserve.co.uk/izone/fluxuseyezone.html But, I'm not allowed to talk

Re: FLUXLIST: the creative act

2000-05-23 Thread Carol Starr
and i finally saw 'high fidelity' c :) carol starr taos, new mexico, usa [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 23 May 2000, Patricia wrote: (I finally saw The Fight Club : ) PK

Re: FLUXLIST: the creative act

2000-05-23 Thread BestPoet
In a message dated 05/23/2000 9:12:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I meant to say, Selavy, as he was in touch with his feminine side... would that be on the left or right side?

Re: FLUXLIST: the creative act

2000-05-23 Thread Patricia
As far as I can tell, it was the full frontal side, all dressed up, with plenty of places to go. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 05/23/2000 9:12:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I meant to say, Selavy, as he was in touch with his feminine side... would

Re: FLUXLIST: the creative act

2000-05-22 Thread Don Boyd
Patricia I AGREE WITH YOU. My family, friends who do not understand art think I can't make money on my art because I don't know how to do that or I'm not good enough. In one way that is true- mentally, plilosophically, intuitively, I CANNOT make what the public seems to want. There is a very

Re: FLUXLIST: the creative act

2000-05-21 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; ok ok i am playing devils advocate (and being a bit playful) but really one must go on you have to look at the circumstances of the time. He was way ahead of his time but so were others. People still paint and many more paint and don't know a thing of the 1913 armory show. I

Re: FLUXLIST: the creative act

2000-05-21 Thread Patricia
I see (?) hear you, Terrence and certainly agree with your last line. My comment about the Armory Show is ingrained - it sticks with me as a highlight of the art history education part of my life. When I saw a wall of works from the exhibit at the Norton Simon Museum in Pasadena, it hit me

Re: FLUXLIST: the creative act

2000-05-20 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; Art is commercial the moment you seek to engage it as "culture". ie in the culture industry. Duchamp was revoultutionalry thinker for the arts but not necessrily a revolutionary professional artist. He canged the art making oeuvre but for other artists with their

Re: FLUXLIST: the creative act

2000-05-20 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes Postitution is an honest exchange at a fair market value or as supply and demand and it never seeks to qualify for grants to support it. I abohore patriarchy as an infantile wish. I see Duchamp as a creator of ideas that some pick up on. It's not a rule, like a lesson from daddy

Re: FLUXLIST: the creative act

2000-05-20 Thread narvis ...pez
At 12:03 pm -0700 20/5/00, Patricia wrote: Yep, he played chess and he played chess because he had achieved his freedom - he only made, as far as I know 30-40 works in 50 or so years - he made art to make art, for himself - he was focused and free and I think it admirable. Of course, he had

Re: FLUXLIST: the creative act

2000-05-20 Thread Patricia
Terrence J Kosick wrote: Terrence writes Postitution is an honest exchange at a fair market value or as supply and demand and it never seeks to qualify for grants to support it. Really? What about the pimp? : ) I abohore patriarchy as an infantile wish. I see Duchamp as a creator of

Re: FLUXLIST: the creative act

2000-05-19 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; I don't agree with this. Duchamp, in a purely objective practical way, was a sort of a clever aragont lazy artist and he was not a professional painter. He was more of a dabbler and and a chess player and mostly unemployed. He talked more than he produced art. I don't feel

Re: FLUXLIST: the creative act

2000-05-19 Thread narvis ...pez
At 09:42 am + 19/5/00, Terrence J Kosick wrote: Terrence writes; I don't agree with this. Duchamp, in a purely objective practical way, was a sort of a clever aragont lazy artist and he was not a professional painter. He was more of a dabbler and and a chess player and mostly unemployed. He

FLUXLIST: the creative act

2000-05-17 Thread narvis ...pez
"the creative act. "let us consider two important factors, the two poles of the creation of art: the artist on the one hand, and on the other the spectator who later becomes the posterity. "to all appearances, the artists acts like a mediumnistic being who, from the labyrinth beyond time ans