Re: FLUXLIST: fluxlist box II
alan: ( everyone else who has digitial files) send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday, January 23, 2003, at 06:32 AM, alan bowman wrote: Who do I have to send my audio file to again? durr!! i have a 2,193KB MP3 what's the best way of getting it to you - i have broadband, so i can email it no bother - trouble is, can you recieve. i could put it on a web page for down load, if some one tells me how cheers alan ps the piece is compose by all using those coordinates i asked for + the sound of fluxlist music for fluxlist box number two being written. its quite nice too!
Re: FLUXLIST: fluxlist box II
I would say that submissions are open to multiple files. If it turns out that we get a lot, we'll divide it into an audio CD a data CDR... start sending yr submissions this way so I can get a sense of what is out there. if you are on the otherside of the digital divide, audio cassettes are fine, but of course you will have to mail them to me. In order to facilitate having as much as possible pieces should be under 5 minutes or so... digital files to [EMAIL PROTECTED] cassettes: mIEKAL aND XEXOXIAL ENDARCHY 10375 Cty Hway A LaFarge, WI 54639 On Thursday, January 23, 2003, at 07:44 AM, alan bowman wrote: can i submit more than one piece to the box - say if i had some more audio stuff?
Re: FLUXLIST: fluxlist box II
IM sure you can send more than one piece but it should be contained in one object. CD with several pieces audio casset or the like. crispin webb fluxbox co-ordinator --- alan bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can i submit more than one piece to the box - say if i had some more audio stuff? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: FLUXLIST: fluxlist box 2
y'know I thought about that myself. I usually have a couple of them sitting around. Alex NP: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: fluxlist box 2 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 10:35:38 -0400 what about a huggies (unscented) 80 wipes box? ...p _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: FLUXLIST: fluxlist box 2
Alex Cook y'know I thought about that myself. I usually have a couple of them sitting around. Alex NP: i know alex i have a couple plenty of cassettes :-) ...p From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: fluxlist box 2 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 10:35:38 -0400 what about a huggies (unscented) 80 wipes box? ...p _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxlist Box Number Two
I vote for this plan except that I would prefer the cigarbox option. I will offer Pez $$ to buy the leftover box for the Avant Writing Collection. If agreeable, that $$ could be applied toward new box. I will contact pez backchannel about this. John At 11:27 AM 1/8/2003 +, you wrote: okay I vote for Crispin to take charge of project (well done that man) I vote for an edition of 50 I vote for Everyone sends 50 items in a box of their choice - Crispin then makes up 50 boxes and send back the Fluxselection in a different box I vote for a size-guideline for box (min - max dimensions) __ Dr. John M. Bennett Curator, Avant Writing Collection Rare Books Manuscripts Library The Ohio State University Libraries 1858 Neil Av Mall Columbus, OH 43210 USA (614) 292-8114 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___
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count the freeformfreakout organisation well and truly in we are busy ploughing through somewhere near 400 unread emails from fluxlist at the moment (christmas saw the organisation shut down for a fortnight) - our collective delete buttons are glowing red at the moment we can't even bring ourselves to comment! (that particular division beng still on holiday!) West bishes All the staff at the Freeformfreakout Organisation www.freeformfreakout.org
Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXLIST Box #2 count me in
I would love to contribute to the box project. I like sending 50 (or whatever) of one item and then getting back a collection. You get to see more people's art that way. But what ever's decided will work. Benjamin
Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXLIST BOX #2?
i'm in. --- Owen Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I second and third Josh's and Melissa's ideas about a second box for/of the fluxlist. I am also happy to help out in any way needed along with contributing. It seems to me that there are two aspects that would be nice to work into this project: 1. a collection of scores since there have been several nice ones posted to the list, so this could be a compilation of those already posted as well as new ones; 2. More along the lines of Melissa's idea of a box of multiples or the like (that is what you were thinking wasn't it Melissa?) I have more ideas, but let's see what others think. . . . Owen __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXLIST BOX #2?
I'm in, but I joined the list after the first FluxList box so I'm sketchy on the details (if any). I adore the FluxList for Dummies idea, in any format. M -- From: Josh Ronsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: FLUXLIST BOX #2? Date: Wed, Jan 1, 2003, 9:44 PM Friends, Is it not time to start thinking of a second FluxList Box? I treasure the first one and I love showing it to visitors. While recently thinking of the Fluxus for Dummies book that will never get finished, I thought that a FluxList box is a project I could tend to completion. Who is in it with me? Should we have the same parameters as last time? I have not began to look for boxes. I would prefer that the theme of the box be kept free (i.e. open to any interpretation), but I would like to suggest two titles: a) Box #2: FluxList for Dummies b) FluxList Box for Peace However, everything is open for debate. -Josh Ronsen in Austin, Texas Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com
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Same here; count me in, if someone can organize it. thanks, Joihn At 03:27 AM 1/2/2003 +, you wrote: I second the thought of a Second Fluxlist Box the first one was great, and I'm getting into doing multiples. So I'd participate, but can't offer to do more. Anyone else? Melissa McCarthy Hours: whimsical or by appointment Adult, maybe; grown-up, never! [EMAIL PROTECTED] The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE*. __ Dr. John M. Bennett Curator, Avant Writing Collection Rare Books Manuscripts Library The Ohio State University Libraries 1858 Neil Av Mall Columbus, OH 43210 USA (614) 292-8114 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___
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Same for me. I'm new here, so it would be great to get some details about FluxList box #1. -Mindaugas I'm in, but I joined the list after the first FluxList box so I'm sketchy on the details (if any).
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josh, what a great idea! i was looking at our fluxbox the other day and thinking how interesting it would be to do another one. Definitely, count me in. just what the doctor ordered; positive energy. i scrolled through some of the posts from the fluxbox ( i have them in a file) and it seemed that parameters and such developed very naturally. the experience i had doing the address book was so good and i feel i enjoyed it more than i had expected. there are alot of good folk here; serious artists teachers students and others who enjoy the fluxus spirit. Josh Ronsen wrote: Friends, Is it not time to start thinking of a second FluxList Box? I treasure the first one and I love showing it to visitors. While recently thinking of the Fluxus for Dummies book that will never get finished, I thought that a FluxList box is a project I could tend to completion. Who is in it with me? Should we have the same parameters as last time? I have not began to look for boxes. I would prefer that the theme of the box be kept free (i.e. open to any interpretation), but I would like to suggest two titles: a) Box #2: FluxList for Dummies b) FluxList Box for Peace However, everything is open for debate. -Josh Ronsen in Austin, Texas Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com
Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXLIST BOX #2?
same situation for me(i'm in still!) *** BIBIANA PADILLA MALTOS AVTEXTFEST general coordinator Paseo de Vista Hermosa #625 Mexicali, B.C., 21240 MEXICO 233 Paulin Ave. PMB. 7263 Calexico, Ca., 92231-2646 U.S.A. Original Message Follows From: meryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXLIST BOX #2? Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 08:07:31 -0500 I'm in, but I joined the list after the first FluxList box so I'm sketchy on the details (if any). I adore the FluxList for Dummies idea, in any format. M -- From: Josh Ronsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: FLUXLIST BOX #2? Date: Wed, Jan 1, 2003, 9:44 PM Friends, Is it not time to start thinking of a second FluxList Box? I treasure the first one and I love showing it to visitors. While recently thinking of the Fluxus for Dummies book that will never get finished, I thought that a FluxList box is a project I could tend to completion. Who is in it with me? Should we have the same parameters as last time? I have not began to look for boxes. I would prefer that the theme of the box be kept free (i.e. open to any interpretation), but I would like to suggest two titles: a) Box #2: FluxList for Dummies b) FluxList Box for Peace However, everything is open for debate. -Josh Ronsen in Austin, Texas Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXLIST BOX #2?
Hi Josh, Just got your email about what it was we were going to exchange. I'll send something. I'm also in on the second box idea. Perhaps we should wait awhile until Allen cleans house. Ha! -Don _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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perfect way to start the new year, yes. please include me and i'd have to ditto everything meryl says here: I'm in, but I joined the list after the first FluxList box so I'm sketchy onthe details (if any).I adore the FluxList for Dummies idea, in any format. NBB (nancy burr)
Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXLIST BOX #2?
On 1/2/03 1:39 AM, Owen Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I second and third Josh's and Melissa's ideas about a second box for/of the fluxlist. I am also happy to help out in any way needed along with contributing. It seems to me that there are two aspects that would be nice to work into this project: 1. a collection of scores since there have been several nice ones posted to the list, so this could be a compilation of those already posted as well as new ones; 2. More along the lines of Melissa's idea of a box of multiples or the like (that is what you were thinking wasn't it Melissa?) I have more ideas, but let's see what others think. . . . Owen I fourth it. I'd like to do a multiple text/image thing this spring . . . AK
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Lots of fluxivity lately! I like the 2nd box idea the last one was fun. cecil Freshdot.com Web Hosting Service Host 10 domains on one account for 12.95mo (USD) Freshdot Domain Name Registrations transfers $7.75 for .com, .net and .org - 8.75 for new .biz and .info http://web-hosting.freshdot.com/ Cecil Touchon: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXLIST BOX #2?
I second the thought of a Second Fluxlist Box the first one was great, and I'm getting into doing multiples. So I'd participate, but can't offer to do more. Anyone else? Melissa McCarthy Hours: whimsical or by appointment Adult, maybe; grown-up, never! [EMAIL PROTECTED] The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE*.
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I second and third Josh's and Melissa's ideas about a second box for/of the fluxlist. I am also happy to help out in any way needed along with contributing. It seems to me that there are two aspects that would be nice to work into this project: 1. a collection of scores since there have been several nice ones posted to the list, so this could be a compilation of those already posted as well as new ones; 2. More along the lines of Melissa's idea of a box of multiples or the like (that is what you were thinking wasn't it Melissa?) I have more ideas, but let's see what others think. . . . Owen
Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxlist Box CD
hi all, how exciting it will be to have the CD and thanks to owen and sol for their generous work on this project. as i recall with the fluxlist box we did send some money to cover the box and postage and i would think that would be a good idea here too. i hope it will be cross-platform so i can play it on the CD in my not very new any more mac. cu, carol :) Sol Nte wrote: Yes, send me the stuff. In many ways the box was never finished without the CD. But also it would be nice as a secondary project. Anyone got any ideas? I remember Heiko wanted it to be mixed mode..audio/data..that's a possible. we could put things like 1 hot min on there (zap, what're you doing with that btw?) plus I've never really found a good way to display the results of the fluxlist midi project...we could just do one big CD filled with as much as possibleafter all we work mainly in the digital domain and these things are so quick to do. One question...if I organise this I would make a CD that was navigated via html/java appsin other words I'd like the thing to be 100% cross-platformi.e. browseable on as many OS's as possible. Do people have ideas regarding this. Normally CDs are tied into pc(windows)/mac but this is limited anyway..ideas welcome..Owen get in touch offlist to send the stuff. I can make you a temp account on one of our servers if you want to ftp me the stuff. cheers, Sol. -- carol starr taos, new mexico, usa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxlist Box ( the future )
Sol, When's the Book Fair happening? Sounds like a great idea. I've got my studio "La Gallerie de Shed" open for the Artists Equity Studio Tour at the end of September - a display of the group projects would be great here as well, but I do na' have a box - perhaps a loaner at that time? For the tour last year we also sold shrinkwrapped cookies that we had printed with photographs at a local bakery. Sent them the photos by email and they inkjet printed the images with food coloring. They were a big hit. "Cookies With Body!!! $5 Each, Completely Edible" Maybe this year I'll ask for Fluxlist imageshmmm...a new project - whoa, better finish the stamp one first. John Held seems very amenable to perfing a few sheets past his limit, in fact he might teach me to perf! And hopefully, I would perf perfectly. That's a fun word to say, isn't it? perf. Of course, there is the option of copying the ones you get as well, although there would be an absence of perf. Poof, PK Sol Nte wrote: I will now definitely be standing the London Artist's Book Fair this year which is being held at the Barbican in central London. I shall use it as an opportunity to show our box amongst other things and offer some for sale perhaps(Owen can you get in touch offlist about this..would send a separate mail but my fingers are tired). Also I've been in touch with Roger and shall hopefully be putting the poetry book on display too ( P.K. perhaps the stampsheet should be a possibility too, will there be extras for sale/exhibition etc. ?)
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hi,
this is all very exciting. today i could see the pictures on the
online catalogue, all wonderful!! now i am kind of flux-praying [fluxus
prayers, is there a thing like fluxus prayers?] to recieve my box, i would
love to touch and smell and read the pieces. first of all thank you owen and
sol, very very much, then apologize carol and kathy for my naughty
+not.well.mannered.at.all+ filter papers. they do it all the time, don't
blame the sun. not carol's but i could bundle my naughty sigaras with
pdropez' matchbox. i am waiting for my box with more impatience now. thank
you all fluxlisters,
with love
jadah
Is the lipped Sigara Sagliga Zararlidir (In English: Sigara Sagliga
Zararlidir) ("Sigara sagliga zararlidir" Imza: Alkol...
http://www.uni-ulm.de/~s_dmahmu/duvar.htm???) (Babelfish tells me
it's Turkish; Ceyda?) meant to be part of Carol Starr's lovely and
wonderful-smelling paper canvas, or did the two merge, ...elide,
perhaps sitting in the sun too long? They did in mine, the "filter
paper" of the sigara has attached itself neatly to Carol's trace
envelope.
Who made the marble bullet? With map.
Kathy Forer
I just found a stationery box containing about thirty
unmailed change of address cards from last April.
Re: FLUXLIST: fluxlist box online
allen bukoff wrote: Please join me in thanking, congratulating, and saluting Sol Nte and Owen Smith for the fabulous job they did in organizing the fluxlist box project. AMEN AMEN AMEN. No furthur comments needed. Don
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gabriel swossil wrote: my contribution got lost in the mail (so its a imaginary piece. or one can guess which contribution is by me and any choice for one of the unsigned pieces is in fact wrong.) so for fluxlistbox2 i will do some "double feature". one part of it can then be put in fluxlistbox1. something like that. I like this idea--you'd have a 'box hopping' piece. But the 'wrong attribution flux event' works too -rosalie
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Kathy Forer wrote: The online catalog is wonderful! Praise, peacock eggs and riches from the east for Owen and Sol, what a fine job! http://www.fluxus.org/FLUXLIST/box1/fbindexm.html thank you thank you thank you The box really is a collage of art novelties--it has film, performance, sculpture, dice, concepts humor. It has an abstract painting, prints (as in printmaking fingerprints), matches, tape, and, can I call it an 'odalisque' on the rocks? Maybe a Duchampian Odalisque? Today I discovered the paper pyramid and the transportable cardboard picture frame for looking out at the world. I hate to mention one work over another because I discover something new each time I look at it, and I quite like the variety of objects forms. When I opened it one of the first I noticed was Josh Ronsen's 'tape piece'. It is what it says--a piece of tape, very nice--I like it. And I have a card with the number '97' on one side, and '44' on the other. I like that too. My contribution was 'Fluxus Art Chat'. My first thought for the box was to prepare a tiny book comprised of fluxlist e-mail discussions about making the box. There were far too many of those, though--I couldn't keep up with them. I then tried to make 'talking lips', by attaching cut-out mouths from lipstick ads to clothes pins so they would 'talk'. But, gee, that didn't work out either. I was staring at a picture of George Maciunas in the Fluxus Codex wondering what he'd say about these projects when I thought I'd try to make a 'talking head'. I ended up I think with 7 heads (Alison Knowles, Ay-O, Yoko Ono mask, Dick Higgins, LaMonte Young, Jackson MacLow, George Maciunas). They really work I hope everyone who got one tries it out. I hestitated to open some of the sealed packages in the box because they look so neat, but I think I'll try everything as I work my way through it. And I mentioned off-list to Sol that I really like his label--I'd like to mention it again here. The label reminded me of labels on 'novelty' items. I'd be interested to hear more about the original Fluxus boxes. It seems that they were mostly done by an individual, and not by a group. Is that right? --Rosalie Gancie
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it seems ceyda's filter paper stuck to the outer wrapper of my piece. Carol, It stuck in a way that seemed intentional and I think may have happened actually prior to any early morning sun exposure. A curious confluence, though I'm glad to have finally separated them, thanks. Kathy
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Please join me in thanking, congratulating, and saluting Sol Nte and Owen Smith for the fabulous job they did in organizing the fluxlist box project. Owen Smith deserves additional accolades for the TIME and EFFORT he put forth on our behalf producing the box (with Sol's label), arranging the contents (which according to many comments is being appreciated as art form in itself), and then packing up all the boxes and getting them mailed--(but wait, there's more!)--as well as photographing and documenting all the objects for the digital catalog. A shitload of very high quality work. I'm really impressed. What a cool project. Thanks Sol and Owen. Thanks participants! Thanks FLUXLIST. Wow. The catalog is at: http://www.fluxus.org/FLUXLIST/box1/fbindexm.html Enjoy! Owen
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thank you, thank you, thank you. for all your time spent doing this for us. best regards, c :) carol starr taos, new mexico, usa [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 13 May 2000, Owen Smith wrote: Thanks to Allen for providing server space the Fluxlist box catalog is now on line so you can all feel free to check out who contributed what and those who were not involved can see a bit of what was done. The catalog is at: http://www.fluxus.org/FLUXLIST/box1/fbindexm.html Enjoy! Owen btw - for all contributors if there is any incorrect information please let me know and I will change what ever needs to be changed.
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hi kathy, it seems ceyda's filter paper stuck to the outer wrapper of my piece. sorry the sun did that . mine has oil paint on paper so i wrapped it so it would not get on any others though it had been thoroughly dried before i mailed it. best, c :) carol starr taos, new mexico, usa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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AK wrote: I'm struck by the fact that the synchronic experience of the box elides the diachronicity of each series, to counterfeit a phrase-- And Kathy Forer wrote: From what is the phrase a counterfeit? "I came to debase the coinage." --Diogenes the Kynic AK
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Hi all, To be honest I expected some sort of response to my post yesterday about the box. I got one reply offlist. I still want to know who did what if they didn't sign it. Are we still waiting for some people to receive their boxes before we talk about it? I thought I was one of the last to get mine, certainly the others in England have theirs and in mainland Europe too. Although Bernice hasn't got hers yet. Maybe we can discuss them anyway? Can anyone who hasn't yet received their box let me know. Thanks. Actually I got the box out again last night to look at. It's very like a mail art box project I participated in once...in that many boxes were made, one a month for a year. Each subsequent box responded to elements of the previous box. Maybe we could do that? Although not once a month. Maybe 2 a year? Realised that yesterday I should have thanked Owen for the time and trouble he took to assemble and mail all the boxes so thank you Owen :-) cheers, Sol.
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hi sol and all, i didn't get my box yet. as i told owen before, if the turkish postal system works as usual, i might never get my box or at least get it late. so sad. you shouldn't wait for me at least to start discussing. i keep my mail anyway, i will join with my belated comments later on. in case i don't get my box (very very sad), will the items be exhibited on the web, in the i/eye-zone galleries for example? regards, ceyda
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Hi all, Well thanks Ceyda and Bernice for responding I'm sorry that you haven't got your boxes yet. Mine took a while to arrive too..only got it at the end of last week...so it took a few weeks more than other boxes to the UK. Ceyda asks: in case i don't get my box (very very sad), will the items be exhibited on the web, in the i/eye-zone galleries for example? Well, I think Owen was planning to catalogue the items in the box for a CD catalogue of the box contents so if he's already photographed all the objects etc. this could be put on the web. Owen? If not I can photograph the box contents for the web, I agree that they should be online, especially so that those who didn't take part or joined the list after it had all happened can see what we did. You may remember that I said originally I would try and show the box. Well as I said yesterday I'm currently trying to get a stall for the London Artist's Book Fair in the autumn. If I get it I shall show the box there (the fair is in the Barbican Art Gallery in central London, unless the organisers are changing plans this year), apart from that I'm not too sure where else will be suitable. Also Owen only sent me one box so at the moment I'm not willing to send my only box for someone to show unless I can be sure that it is not damaged in transit etc. Perhaps the best thing is to show it on the web too. Really Owen needs to tell us how far he's got with the catalogue or I could just go ahead and set up some pages for it linked from the Eye Zone which seems appropriate. Owen, do let us know how far you've got with everything. Thanks. As for discussing the box: First of all some people who contributed to the box are no longer on the list. Rich J.Galpin and Joe Decie are no longer on and Adrian Glew was never on in the first place although he is the Fluxus archivist at the Tate Gallery in London and he was interested to contribute so.. Rich Galpin asked me to let him know about any box discussions so I shall pass on comments to him so if you wish to address a comment to him please do so and I shall pass it on. Similarly I'm sure that Roger wouldn't mind passing on comments addressed to Joe Decie (some of you may not know that Joe is Roger's step son). Okay, first of all if you didn't sign your work can you please say which piece was your, some unsigned ones I know already but it would be nice to make up a little list that I can include with my box for future reference to know who did what. That's the first task. The second task is harder because I think we should began to consider what we've achieved with the box. Is this the beginning of a series? Do we want to make another box in this way? Was this box a success? Did we achieve what we set out to do? I think the box took on a life of its own in some ways. It started as a plan to make a Fluxus box but the result isn't really a Fluxus box, in fact even just comparing it with photos of original Fluxboxes there are a number of differences...in fact I think this is a good thing and that perhaps originally we should have set out to explore the box form in our own way as oppose to planning to make a "Fluxus box". However I think the fact that we all worked together with a lot of discussion to agree on aspects of the box such as the label has led us to an interesting way of working as a group..surprisingly we all came to an agreement on most things quite easily...I had expected far more disagreement, especially about the name. So what else do we consider? The main thing I suppose is do we want to do another one: To give people who didn't get a chance to contribute to the first one a chance to contribute now and to work out what we can improve upon in the second one. Clearly there is one obvious improvement and that is the time factor..unfortunately various things have conspired to delay this first box..many of which were beyond Owen's or my controlhaving to wait 2 weeks for the labels to come in stock, Owen's family emergency etc. etc. I have some ideas about how we can produce these boxes quicker but I'll wait a while before sharing those. Okay, well I'd love to here people's comments. A lot of people must have had their boxes by now but only a few people have said anything about it. What about the others did you like it? Did you dislike it? If so why? Please be honest, I'm sure no-one will be offended if people are honest even if this involves criticism. As an artist one expects to have one's work examined in this way. Anyway I expect that most people will be interested to question each other about their pieces, motivations, choices of materials etc. It would be nice to explore the way each other works. Anyway, I've said enough. Let's hear from someone else who has received their box. cheers, Sol.
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Sol Nte wrote: Hi all, To be honest I expected some sort of response to my post yesterday about the box. I got one reply offlist. I still want to know who did what if they didn't sign it. I did the pair a ceramic dice wrapped in text. Sorry I didn't sign it--I was not thinking of attribution when I did it, sort of that the dice were their own author. But you're right--after receiving the box I realized it would be nice to have names to attach to things. Sol, your image is very charming! I write when stuck in the car; I've got a series of things called "In the Car: 1" and so on. The CD is quite extraordinary. I would like to know more background on it--who what when where why. Are Kathy Forer's beautiful little reliefs each unique? Or all they all elephants? I'm struck by the fact that the synchronic experience of the box elides the diachronicity of each series, to counterfeit a phrase-- My son's very favorite (of many favorites) is the stone/water experiment. He's a person of subtle wit. We plan on stamping any number of things w/ the official fluxmark. By the way, in stamp art news, did you know our most Wonderfully Absurd Governor, Jesse Ventura, vetos bills with the rubber stamp of a pig? (for pork, you know--is that expression current in the UK as well, pork for goverment projects of dubious necessity?) AK
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I'll go - I've had mine for a couple weeks now, and I am very pleased with the box. The quality of the contributed pieces is much higher than I expected. I like how it comes across as an activity kit, rather than simply an artifact, or a small collection of multiples. I too would like to know who did some of the unsigned pieces. My biggest amazement is how well all the pieces fit in the box together, especially since there wer no clearly definied size guidlines put forth. This is the best executed collaborative art thing I've had the pleasure to be involved with, and I think we should do more of them. If I had to pick a favorite, it would be Owen's map piece. Also I'd be curious to know if anyone is planning to perform or has performed any of the scores put in the box. Alex Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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Dear Owen, If you don't have enough space on your server I will happily host the site on mine which has ample space and speed. You can directly upload the site to my server even if you like. The free ones are so slow and with popup ad boxes... yuk cecil Owen Smith wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: Well, I think Owen was planning to catalogue the items in the box for a CD catalogue of the box contents so if he's already photographed all the objects etc. this could be put on the web. Owen? To Sol and all others - the catalog is all done, at least in a web ready version (the CD version still has a few other things to work out). I will try to get it up in the next few days - if not on my server here I will at least put it up on one of the free hosting sites ASAP. Owen
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"i did not received mine. i'm afraid the venezuela post office is like turkish one. in our kind of socialism we all are under suspicion. ...pez It is too bad you haven't gotten it--I loved your matchbox piece, by the way. Very nice! AK
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On Thu, 11 May 2000, // - - \ bern-o-matic wrote:
don't know what the deal is with canada post...
At one point, I remember reading that Canada Post had the second-worst
mail-service in the 'industrialized world' -- after Italy. It's still
remarkably slow...
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hi owen, now that we are all talking about the box i have taken it out to look at its contents again. such fun. i did your score this evening and taos is 16.75 inches from bangor, maine which on my map scale is 2010 miles. love the pins with little flags. best, c :) carol starr taos, new mexico, usa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes: Well, I heard from Owen and he said that he had had a family emergency which meant that he was away for a while and would be contacting the list about the box when he had a chance. Obviously he has not yet had a chance to do that. Hopefully Owen will be able to get on with the box soon but in the meantime I ask that everyone be patient. The box hasn't been forgotten but as you all know sometimes there are things beyond our control. To all and sundry members of the Fluxlist and particularly those of you who participated in the Fluxlist Box project. I have been out of the loop for a few weeks because of a family emergency that I had to deal with and then once I got back (last week) I have had a mountain of things that had piled up in my absence. Needless to say I have not ben able to finish the Fluxbox because of this. As Sol mentioned in his original post (above) the box is assembled and labeled, but it is waiting for me to finish the accompanying CD (the CD catalog and archive of the Fluxlist). I was able to work about six hours on it yesterday and the same the day before - I have the interface all designed and have photographed all the works and am now in the process of building all the graphical elements (rollovers, etc) and constructing the pages. Most of the contributors have responded to my request for information, with a few exceptions, SO I STILL NEED - Cecil Touchon - name (how you want it to appear) and title and date of your piece Fluxsisters - the number of works you sent was less than the number needed to include one in each box, is this the way you want it left, or can you send me more works?? Unclaimed work - we seem to have one work with no artist's name or info associated with it (and none of the people who sent me information for the catalog claimed it) - so if this is your work please let me know and send me you name, the title of the piece and the date - the work is a small glass test tube/ampule with a jewel and a word in the tube. I know that this has a source/artist, but I do not seem to have it . . . . . . . . I think that these are the major unresolved issues for the catalog. My hope is to get a prelim version done by the beginning of next week and then put it up on line so you can all preview it as a final check before I burn the 50 CDs - I will let the list know when this happens and then any and all feedback would be great. Thanks for being patient, Owen
