On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 18:01:36 -0700 (PDT)
Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote:
...seeing if very compact runable maths could be invented and built to
model...
Isn't this a good definition of Lisp?
Denis
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On 2010-07-08, at 9:21 PM, Steve Dekorte wrote:
Thanks for the response. That kind of sounds like the goal is fewer lines of
code (and presumably less labor) per unit of function (increasing
productivity). Is that correct?
Well, I don't speak for Alan, but I have to think it's a bit more
On 2010-07-09, at 12:56 AM, Colin Putney wrote:
On 2010-07-08, at 9:21 PM, Steve Dekorte wrote:
Thanks for the response. That kind of sounds like the goal is fewer lines of
code (and presumably less labor) per unit of function (increasing
productivity). Is that correct?
Well, I don't
yeah.
I guess a lot depends on other factors though.
for example, is a lot of this added code because:
the programmer has little idea what he was doing, and so just wildly
copy-pasted everywhere and made a big mess?...
has lots of code which is actually beneficial, such as doing error checking
for example, is a lot of this added code because:
the programmer has little idea what he was doing, and so just wildly
copy-pasted everywhere and made a big mess?...
has lots of code which is actually beneficial, such as doing error
checking and building abstractions.
similarly, is a
From: fonc-boun...@vpri.org [mailto:fonc-boun...@vpri.org] On Behalf Of
David Leibs
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 1:33 PM
To: Fundamentals of New Computing
Subject: Re: [fonc] goals
It isn't that the programmer has little idea of what he is doing. Things
just take time to be transformed into an
Just to be clear,
The foremost experts and definitive source on software metrics -- Fenton and
Pfleeger [1] -- do not really support SLOC/day/programmer as a good metric
for productivity. It seems to me (from hearing reports by others) that most
people do not actually read books on metrics and
I am somewhat dyslexic and I don't always read things in the right
order so I read
SLOC/day/programmer
as
SHLOCK/day/programmer
it fits in a negative metric kinda way. Maybe it is a meme we should
unleash on our overlings.
-djl
On Jul 9, 2010, at 12:16 PM, John Zabroski
Just wondering... when did that metaphor get started at VPRI? The first
time I had heart you reference the t-shirt metaphor was October 2009 [1]. I
remember joking about it on Lambda the Ultimate in April of 2009 [2], and my
joke was actually based on a presentation given by the head operations
The metaphor happened to me in grad school in the 60s when I finally took the
trouble to trace McCarthy's Lisp in itself and realized just how powerful and
comprehensive he had made it in such a compact way. It was not so much the
Turing aspect but the slope of the power from nothing. I said to
I know that part. I meant extending the metaphor to the joke about printing
t-shirts. David mentioned collapsing this, and I mentioned how I brought up
the joke on LtU about doing this for computer science. I've read your
Maxwell's Equations for Computer Science before, such as the NSF 2007
Max,
You mention software engineering management which reminds me of Tom Gilb's
book Principles of Software Engineering Management which is still a
favorite of mine despite that he replaced it with his more recent
Competitive Engineering. He begins any management exercise by defining six
to ten
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