I would object to the claim that complaints about the non-standard precedence
are somehow characteristic to the culture of if(
The clash is with math, not with another programming language. And it clashes
with a well-established convention in math, therefore with the
readability/expressibility
Yep, and yep
Cheers,
Alan
From: Florin Mateoc fmat...@yahoo.com
To: Fundamentals of New Computing fonc@vpri.org
Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 3:51:23 PM
Subject: Re: [fonc] languages
But wasn't APL called a write-only language, which would make it in a way a
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Casey Ransberger
casey.obrie...@gmail.com wrote:
Has anyone taken the actor model down to the metal?
If someone has, I would sure like to hear about it! There was the
Apiary machine, but I don't think that was ever physically built, only
simulated.
This is a
On 6/5/2011 4:48 PM, Steve Wart wrote:
I like both Smalltalk and APL. I disagree with the assumption that
operator precedence is a big hurdle for people learning Smalltalk. At
least I find mathematical expressions in Smalltalk to be clearer than
their counterparts in Lisp. I like the following
I love APL! Learning APL is really all about learning the idioms and how to
apply them. This takes quite a lot of training time. Doing this kind of
training will change the way you think.
Alan Perlis quote: A language that doesn't affect the way you think about
programming, is not worth
Hi David
I've always been very fond of APL also -- and a slightly better and more
readable syntax could be devised these days now that things don't have to be
squeezed onto an IBM Selectric golfball ...
Cheers,
Alan
From: David Leibs david.le...@oracle.com
I think this one was derived from Phil Abrams' Stanford (and SLAC) PhD thesis
on
dynamic analysis and optimization of APL -- a very nice piece of work! (Maybe
in
the early 70s or late 60s?)
Cheers,
Alan
From: David Pennell pennell.da...@gmail.com
To:
Alan-
I expect you lost a few readers there. I have fond memories of APL on an
IBM 360/145 with APL microcode support and Selectric terminals.
David
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi David
I've always been very fond of APL also -- and a slightly better
I'm actually not talking about the potty mouths:)
APL is up there on my list now, but it hasn't knocked Prolog out of the top
slot.
I've done a bunch of test automation. I really enjoy testing because on a good
day it can approach something reminiscent of science, but OTOH the test code I
On 6/5/2011 7:06 PM, David Leibs wrote:
I love APL! Learning APL is really all about learning the idioms and
how to apply them. This takes quite a lot of training time. Doing
this kind of training will change the way you think.
Alan Perlis quote: A language that doesn't affect the way
You might get a kick out of this toy model I made to demonstrate how a mesh
(or cloud) of minimal hardware actors can work together to compute. It's
the latest in a series of explorations of the particle / field concept...
http://cs.pdx.edu/~orhai/mesh-sort
I think there's a lot that can be done
They have their payment story together. They will contact you will all the
arrangements. I think they cover flights and hotel and pay different fees
for different services (e.g. teaching a course verses giving a talk). I may
be off base if you are only giving a talk because I have always done the
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