Presentation from earlier this year by Niklaus Wirth on Oberon:
http://www.multimedia.ethz.ch/conferences/2011/oberon/?doi=10.3930/ETHZ/AV-5879ee18-554a-4775-8292-3cf0293f5956autostart=true
Towards the end Niklaus demos an actual Ceres workstation.
Am 30.08.11 21:46, schrieb Jakob Praher:
Dear Eduardo,
Thanks for sharing this. There is a great overlap between Alan's and
Niklaus Wirth's sentiments.
Very inspiring and to the point. Is anybody using Oberon currently as a
working environment?
@Alan: Can you remember the discussion with
Am 30.08.11 22:38, schrieb Alan Kay:
Sure. He was invited to spend a year in CSL in the mid 70s and decided
to do an Alto like machine with an Alto-like UI and that ran Alto-like
languages (turned out to be an odd combination of Mesa and Smalltalk).
Did you exchange some ideas? He really
On 2011-08-30 Tue, at 02:23 PM, Jakob Praher wrote:
a) no abstraction at all (assembly code) : complicated since simple things
are huge
b) over-use of abstraction : complicated since hard to see where the real
stuff is going on
Likewise assembly abstracts over common gate arrangements and
I think there two sides:
a) no abstraction at all (assembly code) : complicated since simple things
are huge
b) over-use of abstraction : complicated since hard to see where the real
stuff is going on
Maybe it also has something to do with bottom up vs top down.
I think you need both. One
I'm glad that he has finally come to appreciate OOP.
Cheers,
Alan
From: Jakob Praher ja...@praher.info
To: Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com; Fundamentals of New Computing
fonc@vpri.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [fonc] Ceres and Oberon