Re: [fonc] 90% glue code

2013-04-17 Thread Steve Wart
the term even have any meaning at all? On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:52 PM, David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Steve Wart st...@wart.ca wrote: On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Gath-Gealaich In real systems, 90% of code (conservatively) is glue code. What

Re: [fonc] 90% glue code

2013-04-17 Thread Steve Wart
The wikipedia definition is circular, but I agree that people know it when they see it :) Thanks for the thoughtful reply. Steve On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:52 AM, David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Steve Wart st...@wart.ca wrote: It depends what you

Re: [fonc] 90% glue code

2013-04-16 Thread Steve Wart
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Gath-Gealaich In real systems, 90% of code (conservatively) is glue code. What is the origin of this claim? On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 12:15 PM, David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:57 AM, David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.comwrote:

Re: [fonc] Error trying to compile COLA

2012-02-27 Thread Steve Wart
Just to zero in on one idea here Anyway I digress... have you had a look at this file?: http://piumarta.com/software/maru/maru-2.1/test-pepsi.l Just read the whole thing - I found it fairly interesting :) He's build pepsi on maru there... that's pretty fascinating, right? Built a micro

Re: [fonc] COLAs or CLOAs? : are lambda systems fundamentally simpler than object systems?

2012-02-12 Thread Steve Wart
Simplicity, like productivity, is an engineering metric that can only be measured in the context of a particular application. Most successful programming languages aren't mathematically pure but some make it easier than others to use functional idioms (by which I mean some mechanism to emulate the

[fonc] Doug Engelbart’s Chorded Keyboard as a Multi-touch Interface

2012-02-08 Thread Steve Wart
This caught my eye on Hackaday - thought people here might be interested http://labs.teague.com/?p=1451 Cheers, Steve ___ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc

Re: [fonc] Google Dash and Harmony projects

2011-09-12 Thread Steve Wart
Is Dash related to Dart? http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2392791,00.asp On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:22 AM, John Zabroski johnzabro...@gmail.comwrote: A leaked Google memo from November 2010 [1] is being circulated around the Internet, outlining Google's supposed technical strategy for Web

Re: VR for the rest of us (was Re: [fonc] Re: SecondPlace, QwaqLife or TeleSim? Open ended, comments welcome)

2011-08-09 Thread Steve Wart
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:47 AM, David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com wrote: I think any solution will need to accommodate porn, or it simply won't be accepted. The idea should be, instead, to keep it from infecting everything else and allow parents to protect their children. 3D design is

[fonc] Eternal computing

2011-06-25 Thread Steve Wart
I've been thinking about eternal computing not so much in the context of software, but more from a cultural level. Software ultimately runs on some underlying physical computing machine, and physical machines are always changing. If you want a program to run for a long time, the software needs to

Re: Age and Language (was Re: [fonc] Alternative Web programming models?)

2011-06-22 Thread Steve Wart
an implementation of Ruby on top of it, and called it MagLev, and it's now possible to have persisted, fast, pure object-oriented data store in Ruby and/or Rails applications... and as we know, there's an implementation of O/Meta for Ruby... ;-) Julian. On 22/06/2011, at 4:58 AM, Steve Wart wrote

Re: Age and Language (was Re: [fonc] Alternative Web programming models?)

2011-06-21 Thread Steve Wart
Also of interest might be GemStone/S, an ODBMS that is still heavily used in at least two large Investment Banks (JP Morgan and UBS), as well as several large shipping companies (OOCL, Coscon, and NYK). Marketing blurb here http://seaside.gemstone.com/docs/OOCL_SuccessStory.pdf Basically it's an

Re: Waterbear announcement (was Re: Age and Language (was Re: [fonc] Alternative Web programming models?))

2011-06-15 Thread Steve Wart
I like it. My son is very keen on Scratch (although he prefers Lua these days), but we picked up an Arduino kit last month, and I'm looking forward to playing with that. His eyes kind of glazed over looking at the C code, as simple as it is for Arduino. I got the impression he was just happy to

Re: Waterbear announcement (was Re: Age and Language (was Re: [fonc] Alternative Web programming models?))

2011-06-15 Thread Steve Wart
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Dethe Elza de...@livingcode.org wrote: Glad you like it. How old is your son? Maybe we should organize a Vancouver Geek Kids, or meet up at Maker Faire next week. Or there is this: http://www.tedxkidsbc.com/ TEDx kids looks wonderful - thanks for that link.

Re: [fonc] What Should The Code Look Like? (was: Show Us The Code!)

2010-12-20 Thread Steve Wart
True. If I'm writing code I probably want to be sitting at a desk to do it. And I imagine Gauss or Euler sitting at a desk in the middle ages writing on parchment, not trying to scribble something down on a notebook while barreling down the streets in their equivalent of a daily commute. Still,

Re: [fonc] What Should The Code Look Like? (was: Show Us The Code!)

2010-12-20 Thread Steve Wart
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Julian Leviston jul...@leviston.net wrote: On 21/12/2010, at 4:51 AM, Steve Wart wrote: So is there anything interesting from a FONC perspective in mobile devices? It may be a coincidence that Apple's success with the iPhone is to a large extent due

Re: [fonc] What Should The Code Look Like? (was: Show Us The Code!)

2010-12-20 Thread Steve Wart
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Julian Leviston jul...@leviston.net wrote: On 21/12/2010, at 12:00 PM, Steve Wart wrote: I used Objective-C pretty much every day for the past 2 years, but for the past 6 months I've been coding in Smalltalk (good old VisualWorks/Envy and GemStone) again