[fonc] Music and Tech (was Re: One more year?!)

Some of what's described below has been done by Robert Fripp, sometimes in collaboration with Brian Eno, for years. The tech has changed over time. It started off tape based but he's moved on to digital delays and various effects for the filtering (mostly structural using BGB's definition from b

Re: [fonc] One more year?!

On 23/01/2012, at 4:17 PM, BGB wrote: > as opposed to either manually placing samples on a timeline (like in Audacity > or similar), or the stream of note-on/note-off pulses and delays used by > MIDI, an alternate idea comes up: > one has a number of delayed relative "events", which are in-turn

Re: [fonc] One more year?!

On 1/22/2012 8:57 PM, Julian Leviston wrote: On 23/01/2012, at 2:30 PM, BGB wrote: little if anything in that area that generally makes me think "dubstep" though... (taken loosely enough, most "gangsta-rap" could be called "dubstep" if one turns the sub-woofer loud enough, but this is rathe

Re: [fonc] One more year?!

On 23/01/2012, at 2:30 PM, BGB wrote: > little if anything in that area that generally makes me think "dubstep" > though... > > (taken loosely enough, most "gangsta-rap" could be called "dubstep" if one > turns the sub-woofer loud enough, but this is rather missing the point...). Listen to th

Re: [fonc] One more year?!

On 1/22/2012 7:16 PM, Casey Ransberger wrote: Below and mile off-topic... On Jan 22, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Julian Leviston wrote: On 23/01/2012, at 8:26 AM, Casey Ransberger wrote: Below. On Jan 21, 2012, at 6:26 PM, BGB wrote: like, for example, if a musician wanted to pursue various music

Re: [fonc] One more year?!

Below and mile off-topic... On Jan 22, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Julian Leviston wrote: > > On 23/01/2012, at 8:26 AM, Casey Ransberger wrote: > >> Below. >> >> On Jan 21, 2012, at 6:26 PM, BGB wrote: >> >>> like, for example, if a musician wanted to pursue various musical forms. >>> say, for exa

Re: [fonc] One more year?!

I agree wholeheartedly with you Casey... There are such parallels with structure here... it's just vibrational structure - patterns. There are SO MANY parallels here (and other places) that sometimes my heads hurts with the feel of all of it. It's at once intensely beautiful and painful because

Re: [fonc] One more year?!

Below. On Jan 22, 2012, at 1:51 PM, Reuben Thomas wrote: > On 22 January 2012 21:26, Casey Ransberger wrote: >> Below. >> >> On Jan 21, 2012, at 6:26 PM, BGB wrote: >> >>> like, for example, if a musician wanted to pursue various musical forms. >>> say, for example: a dubstep backbeat combi

Re: [fonc] One more year?!

On 23/01/2012, at 12:34 PM, BGB wrote: > I was more giving it as an example of basically wanting to do one thing while > being obligated (due to prior work) to do something very different. > Yeah, sorry for diverging :) I actually realised that. > say, if a musician (or scientist/programmer/.

Re: [fonc] One more year?!

On 1/22/2012 5:11 PM, Julian Leviston wrote: On 23/01/2012, at 8:26 AM, Casey Ransberger wrote: Below. On Jan 21, 2012, at 6:26 PM, BGB wrote: like, for example, if a musician wanted to pursue various musical forms. say, for example: a dubstep backbeat combined with rap-style lyrics sung u

Re: [fonc] One more year?!

On 1/22/2012 5:30 PM, Dion Stewart wrote: Is there a hard line between science and art? I lean towards Richard Gabriel's and Kevin Sullivan's views on this one. "How do artists and scientist work? The same." I was actually going to a

[fonc] misc: bytecode and level of abstraction

I don't know if this topic has probably been already beat to death, or is otherwise not very interesting or relevant here, but alas... it is a question though what is the "ideal" level of abstraction (and "generality") in a VM. for example, "LLVM" is fairly low level (using a statically-type

Re: [fonc] One more year?!

Is there a hard line between science and art? I lean towards Richard Gabriel's and Kevin Sullivan's views on this one. "How do artists and scientist work? The same." " How do artists and scientists work? The same On Jan 22, 2012, at 3:5

Re: [fonc] One more year?!

On 23/01/2012, at 8:26 AM, Casey Ransberger wrote: > Below. > > On Jan 21, 2012, at 6:26 PM, BGB wrote: > >> like, for example, if a musician wanted to pursue various musical forms. >> say, for example: a dubstep backbeat combined with rap-style lyrics sung >> using a death-metal voice or s

[fonc] Maru FFT demo

I thought I'd have a play with Maru by trying to rerun the FFT example mentioned in the NSF report. I seem to be having a parsing problem when trying to eval the listed code. I'm running in the whole of boot.l before the FFT example ie. ./eval boot.l smallMaru.l The error is: eval.k: missing closin

Re: [fonc] One more year?!

On 21 January 2012 23:56, Robin Barooah wrote: > > Whilst I share the feeling that a lot more should have been possible, the > earlier work informed or transformed almost all of what personal computing is > today, and arguably, the > embodiments that are closest to the original are proving thems

Re: [fonc] One more year?!

On 22 January 2012 21:26, Casey Ransberger wrote: > Below. > > On Jan 21, 2012, at 6:26 PM, BGB wrote: > >> like, for example, if a musician wanted to pursue various musical forms. >> say, for example: a dubstep backbeat combined with rap-style lyrics sung >> using a death-metal voice or similar,

Re: [fonc] One more year?!

Below. On Jan 21, 2012, at 6:26 PM, BGB wrote: > like, for example, if a musician wanted to pursue various musical forms. say, > for example: a dubstep backbeat combined with rap-style lyrics sung using a > death-metal voice or similar, without "the man" (producers, ...) demanding > all the