Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-05 Thread Julian Leviston
On 05/04/2013, at 7:19 AM, Kirk Fraser overcomer@gmail.com wrote: The main source of invention is not math wins as described on http://www.vpri.org/html/work/ifnct.htm since the world would be speaking math if it were really the source of inspiring more inventions that improve the

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-05 Thread Piers Cawley
Okay, SICP, EOPL and TAPL I've worked out (own/am working through slowly). But ItoA? Google wasn't exactly helpful here. On 4 April 2013 22:22, Gath-Gealaich gath.na.geala...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Kirk Fraser overcomer@gmail.com wrote: Fortran was displaced in

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-05 Thread Josh Grams
On 2013-04-05 11:40AM, Piers Cawley wrote: Okay, SICP, EOPL and TAPL I've worked out (own/am working through slowly). But ItoA? Google wasn't exactly helpful here. Probably _Introduction to Algorithms_ by Cormen, Leiserson, Rivest, and Stein. --Josh

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-05 Thread Jarek Rzeszótko
Hi, I don't think this acronym is in wide use, but probably Introduction To Algorithms by Cormen was meant. Cheers, Jarosław Rzeszótko 2013/4/5 Piers Cawley pdcaw...@bofh.org.uk Okay, SICP, EOPL and TAPL I've worked out (own/am working through slowly). But ItoA? Google wasn't exactly

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-05 Thread Kirk Fraser
Actually that's your reasoning. Years ago when I was in college, educators wrote that innovation for innovation's sake is worth nothing. Truly worthwhile inventions judging by percent of Nobel Prize awards are by Jews, hence in Hebrew. But until the world converts to their superior culture,

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-05 Thread Julian Leviston
The fact that we're not communicating very effectively disproves your point. ;-) Julian On 06/04/2013, at 12:42 AM, Kirk Fraser overcomer@gmail.com wrote: Actually that's your reasoning. Years ago when I was in college, educators wrote that innovation for innovation's sake is worth

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-05 Thread Julian Leviston
Apology accepted. ;-) Julian On 06/04/2013, at 12:42 AM, Kirk Fraser overcomer@gmail.com wrote: Actually that's your reasoning. Years ago when I was in college, educators wrote that innovation for innovation's sake is worth nothing. Truly worthwhile inventions judging by percent of

[fonc] 37 Ways That Words Can Be Wrong

2013-04-05 Thread Loup Vaillant-David
Okay, at this point, I have to recommend the sequence mentioned in the subject. Here: http://lesswrong.com/lw/od/37_ways_that_words_can_be_wrong/ Simply put, a human mind have a certain structure, most of which is universally shared among functioning members of a human society (like the

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-05 Thread Loup Vaillant-David
On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 06:42:53AM -0700, Kirk Fraser wrote: […] Truly worthwhile inventions judging by percent of Nobel Prize awards are by Jews, hence in Hebrew. […] Are your saying that most Nobel prize winning Jews were using Hebrew to think the thoughts that lead them to the Nobel prize?

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-05 Thread Kirk Fraser
I was pointing out that innovation for its own sake is worthless then was agreeing with the view that not all the world's inventions come from people who think in English yet pointing out communicating in English is best for world wide distribution. I don't really know how many Jews who won Nobel

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-05 Thread Gath-Gealaich
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Kirk Fraser overcomer@gmail.com wrote: I was pointing out that innovation for its own sake is worthless then was agreeing with the view that not all the world's inventions come from people who think in English yet pointing out communicating in English is

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-05 Thread Kirk Fraser
Gath, So what language do you normally think in? You have stated you don't live in America. Obviously you haven't listened to Rush Limbaugh long enough to know what liberal is. Why comment on things you know so little about? Tune in to Rush via iheart radio and listen for about 6 weeks and

Re: [fonc] 37 Ways That Words Can Be Wrong

2013-04-05 Thread Kirk Fraser
Loup, Thanks for the link. Those 37 ways might help build a truth maintenance system. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Loup Vaillant-David l...@loup-vaillant.frwrote: Okay, at this point, I have to recommend the sequence mentioned in the subject. Here:

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-05 Thread Charlie Derr
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/2013 04:19 PM, Kirk Fraser wrote: snippage Tune in to Rush via iheart radio and listen for about 6 weeks and you'll have more clarity on what liberal actually means in America. Heh. This statement far more offensive than all of the

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-05 Thread shaun gilchrist
I am now convinced we are on some sort of mailing list version of candid camera. Or maybe these messages are the product of some strange markovian email generator programmed to create dissonance by combining fringe comp sci theories with offensive social commentary normally reserved for talk

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-05 Thread Alan Moore
Ya think!? Did I really just waste five minutes...? Let us all go home and try to regain some clarity. Interesting points all but are we done? Alan M. On Apr 5, 2013, at 1:35 PM, shaun gilchrist shaunxc...@gmail.com wrote: I am now convinced we are on some sort of mailing list version of

Re: [fonc] Natural Language Wins

2013-04-05 Thread Steve Taylor
Charlie Derr wrote: Nevertheless I'm finding some of this conversation truly fascinating (though I'm having a little trouble figuring out what is truth and what isn't). I'm just waiting for Kirk to mention Atlantis or the Rosicrucians. It feels like it could be any moment...