Re: Xft and MathML [Was: [Fonts]Xft for OpenGL]

2002-06-03 Thread Keith Packard
Around 23 o'clock on Jun 3, Brian Stell wrote: > Do you know Roger Sidje? > Roger B. Sidje <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Have you seen this page: > http://www.mozilla.org/projects/mathml/ Yes to both questions; I've tried to comprehend how Mozilla manages MathML font mapping, and I haven't quite fi

Xft and MathML [Was: [Fonts]Xft for OpenGL]

2002-06-03 Thread Brian Stell
Keith Packard wrote: > ... > I'd like someone with a real understanding of how MathML is > supposed to work Do you know Roger Sidje? Roger B. Sidje <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Have you seen this page: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/mathml/ > to lead me through how Xft and fontconfig could help Moz

Re: [Fonts]Xft for OpenGL

2002-06-03 Thread Brian Stell
Jon Smirl wrote: > ... > The Linux code is detecting the missing glyphs in all > fonts and caching to disk. I have a lot of fonts > installed and this processes takes over 2 minutes on a > 1.1Ghz Athlon. But it only happens once. > > The Windows code uses the loca table to compute the > data wh

Re: [Fonts]Xft for OpenGL

2002-06-03 Thread Keith Packard
Around 22 o'clock on Jun 3, Jon Smirl wrote: > I meant that Mozilla has implemented code similar to > fontconfig, not that it used fontconfig. Another case > of this is the MiniXFT driver in Pango. MiniXFT was implemented for the bare FreeType2 backend in pango -- done before fontconfig was sp

Re: [Fonts]Xft for OpenGL

2002-06-03 Thread Jon Smirl
--- Keith Packard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The 1.0 Mozilla code for using FreeType does not use > fontconfig; it uses I meant that Mozilla has implemented code similar to fontconfig, not that it used fontconfig. Another case of this is the MiniXFT driver in Pango. > ..missing glyph, loca...

Re: [Fonts]Xft for OpenGL

2002-06-03 Thread Keith Packard
Around 20 o'clock on Jun 3, Jon Smirl wrote: > It would be really nice for embedded systems to have > Freetype, fontconfig and Pango packaged into a > standalone library without any dependencies on the > rest of X or glib. All three have no necessary dependencies on X. Of course Pango relies o

Re: [Fonts]Xft for OpenGL

2002-06-03 Thread Keith Packard
Around 18 o'clock on Jun 3, Brian Stell wrote: > Does Xft build/work under OpenGL? Xft isn't a GL library, it's an X library. However, it certainly would be possible to hook fontconfig and freetype together for 3D apps. Xft is a pretty small chunk of code now that it doesn't do anything exc

[Fonts]Xft for OpenGL

2002-06-03 Thread Brian Stell
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[Fonts]Re: Font lookup ranges [was Re: Notes on Pango Xft backend]

2002-06-03 Thread Keith Packard
Around 18 o'clock on Jun 3, Owen Taylor wrote: > Hmmm, limiting font tag usage to CJK definitely would reduce the > possible harm that could result; and probably makes sense. (At > least initially.) I'm hoping that CJKV will remain the only "broken" part of Unicode in the future; it appears th

[Fonts]Re: Font lookup ranges [was Re: Notes on Pango Xft backend]

2002-06-03 Thread Owen Taylor
Keith Packard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > b) Call FcFontSetSort() separately for each language, and somehow > > influence the sort order; what we'd like to do is make including > > the specified language tag have an weight: > > Language tags are currently given greater weight than

[Fonts]Re: Font lookup ranges [was Re: Notes on Pango Xft backend]

2002-06-03 Thread Owen Taylor
Yao Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu May 30 13:28:11 2002 > > > Around 12 o'clock on May 30, Yao Zhang wrote: > > > > From your coverage map, it is easy to tell which category the font is in. > > > But in my opinion, combining different Chinese fonts together to

[Fonts]xterm, ncurses, fonts

2002-06-03 Thread Markus Wenke
Hi, I develop an application, which uses ncurses. I want to use the vga-Font under xterm. Allmost all Chars are shown correct, but for example the char "132" is shown as an special char. How can I introduce Xterm, to show this char as an "รค" ? The char "132" is only an example. Thanks in ad

[Fonts]Re: Font lookup ranges [was Re: Notes on Pango Xft backend]

2002-06-03 Thread Owen Taylor
Yao Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > From your coverage map, it is easy to tell which category the font is in. > But in my opinion, combining different Chinese fonts together to get > a bigger coverage is generally not a good idea. I see this kind of thing > happens in Mozilla, GTK+ 2. When

Re: [Fonts]Disable font scaling and make Keith happy too [patch]

2002-06-03 Thread Markus Kuhn
Juliusz Chroboczek wrote on 2002-06-03 06:42 UTC: > Following the objections to my previous patch, here's a version that > sports three build-time and two runtime mechanisms for configuring the > bitmap scaling code in or out. Say wow. Wow, you have just rediscovered the second law of thermodyna

Re: [Fonts]What's language tag??

2002-06-03 Thread Owen Taylor
Juliusz Chroboczek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I have seem many times in this mailing list, on the term 'language tag'. > > KP> This comes from the OS/2 tables [in TrueType and OpenType fonts]. > KP> There are 64 bits in this table which were originally designed to > KP> indicate which "Co

Re: [Fonts]Re: Font lookup ranges [was Re: Notes on Pango Xft backend]

2002-06-03 Thread Owen Taylor
Brian Stell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Owen Taylor wrote: > > ... > > Pango already has the language tagging mechanism; the question is > > how to use this to influence character lookup. > > > > a) Call FcFontSetSort() once, get a list, and then when finding > > a (language-tag, codepoi

Re: [Fonts]Updated prerelease for Xft and fontconfig

2002-06-03 Thread Keith Packard
Around 17 o'clock on Jun 2, Jos Backus wrote: > ../fc-cache/fc-cache: failed > *** Error code 1 Hmm. fc-cache "can't" fail like that without printing an error message to stderr; either you didn't capture the message, or fc-cache is getting the stack messed up somehow and having an internal v

Re: [Fonts]Disable font scaling and make Keith happy too [patch]

2002-06-03 Thread Keith Packard
Around 8 o'clock on Jun 3, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > Following the objections to my previous patch, here's a version that > sports three build-time and two runtime mechanisms for configuring the > bitmap scaling code in or out. Say wow. "wow". Thanks a bunch Juliusz. You're going to make m