RE: Alternative API proposal (was: startup refactoring)

2003-06-26 Thread Victor Mote
J.Pietschmann wrote: > Victor Mote wrote: > > I don't see why you > > would suggest that my proposal would use more memory. I am quite sure it > > would use less, but not enough to even mention. > > Well, your approach to "decoupling layout and rendering" seems > to include building a full area tr

lib/jimi in distribution

2003-06-26 Thread Peter B. West
Devs, I just noticed in the dist.bin.lib fileset of build.xml in HEAD. Is that supposed to be there? -- Peter B. West http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/resume.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional c

cvs commit: xml-fop/src/java/org/apache/fop/fo/pagination Root.java

2003-06-26 Thread pietsch
pietsch 2003/06/26 17:16:28 Modified:src/java/org/apache/fop/fo/pagination Root.java Log: Test commit from Eclipse: removed unused import. Revision ChangesPath 1.3 +3 -5 xml-fop/src/java/org/apache/fop/fo/pagination/Root.java Index: Root.java ===

Re: cvs commit: xml-fop checkstyle1.3.0-head

2003-06-26 Thread Peter B. West
Victor, Definitely a w.i.p. It throws up too many exceptions at the moment, and needs to be pruned back by those with a better grasp of the style requirements. Btw, are you using JBuilder with FOP? If so, could you add some notes to the IDE Wiki when you get some "spare time"? Peter Victor

Re: Spec drives me crazy: column-count and blocks with mixed spans

2003-06-26 Thread Peter B. West
Arnd Beißner wrote: Peter, thanks for the answer. I have always *assumed* that column balancing is implied whenever top-level block children of a flow have different "span" attributes, because it's the only approach that makes sense. If your second scenario were intended, then the 'span="all

AW: Alternative API proposal (was: startup refactoring)

2003-06-26 Thread J.U. Anderegg
> J.Pietschmann wrote > I think we have a few slightly more pressing problems: > - improving the API to ease embedding (including Java2D embedding) What has to be embedded? > Adding multiple output streams is certainly fun but I suspect the > bulk of the current users would be more interested in

Re: Alternative API proposal (was: startup refactoring)

2003-06-26 Thread J.Pietschmann
Victor Mote wrote: I don't see why you would suggest that my proposal would use more memory. I am quite sure it would use less, but not enough to even mention. Well, your approach to "decoupling layout and rendering" seems to include building a full area tree, or something equivalent. FOP was imple

[PATCH] fop's resource.xml

2003-06-26 Thread Clay Leeds
Forgive my newbie-ness here, but I'm having problems figuring out how to send this [patch] in. I'm sending it here... Please enlighten me (gently ;-p) so that next time I'm doing it as efficiently as possible. Thanks! PATCH INFO: The info for XPath is missing the fact that it's pretty much Wind

RE: Alternative API proposal (was: startup refactoring)

2003-06-26 Thread Victor Mote
J.Pietschmann wrote: > Victor Mote wrote: > > I guess I don't > > understand the need for FOProcessorFactory, which seems to be > an unnecessary > > complication for the user. > > It has something to do with the GoF Factory pattern. This means you can > choose the implementation of the FOProcessor

Re: Alternative API proposal (was: startup refactoring)

2003-06-26 Thread Glen Mazza
OK, thanks for the enlightenment. --- "J.Pietschmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Glen Mazza wrote: > > Shouldn't we be leery of "render options" where > one > > specifies properties of how the output should look > > outside of what is specified by the XSL-FO file? > > PDF encryption? Printer op

RE: Alternative API proposal (was: startup refactoring)

2003-06-26 Thread Victor Mote
Jeremias Maerki wrote: > > That is not reuse. The metadata example is a trivial one. A > Collection of > > Fonts used and Fonts to be embedded would be a more important > one. However, > > I don't care. You are correct that we aren't talking about the > same thing. > > Then you mean reuse in the c

Re: Alternative API proposal (was: startup refactoring)

2003-06-26 Thread J.Pietschmann
Glen Mazza wrote: Shouldn't we be leery of "render options" where one specifies properties of how the output should look outside of what is specified by the XSL-FO file? PDF encryption? Printer options? Text encoding? MIF version? (If there are output properties that cannot be specified sufficie

Re: Alternative API proposal (was: startup refactoring)

2003-06-26 Thread J.Pietschmann
Victor Mote wrote: I guess I don't understand the need for FOProcessorFactory, which seems to be an unnecessary complication for the user. It has something to do with the GoF Factory pattern. This means you can choose the implementation of the FOProcessorAPI by setting a Java property, or some simi

Re: Alternative API proposal (was: startup refactoring)

2003-06-26 Thread Glen Mazza
--- Jeremias Maerki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I don't understand your last statement, but I > agree that FOPResult is a > > better name than RenderType. > > Let's try different wording: The name "RenderType" > suggests that it is a > enumeration or a parameter, but it's more than that. >

Re: Alternative API proposal (was: startup refactoring)

2003-06-26 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 26.06.2003 20:13:06 Victor Mote wrote: > Well, its a whole lot more than an API and there are some implementing > classes in your spec. However, thanks for clarifying. Only two classes (DefaultFOProcessorFactory and AvalonFOProcessorFactory) to show how the two world can be made more or less c

RE: Alternative API proposal (was: startup refactoring)

2003-06-26 Thread Victor Mote
Jeremias Maerki wrote: > > I think your name is fine. I am confused about whether it is an > interface > > (as written) or a class (I don't see any implementations). > > It's an API. You don't necessarily see implementing classes in the > specification. Compare to JAXP. Theoretically, RenderX coul

Re: Alternative API proposal (was: startup refactoring)

2003-06-26 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 26.06.2003 18:40:58 Victor Mote wrote: > Jeremias Maerki wrote: > > > I have done so now. I've added a new (sub)page to the Wiki to avoid > > making the FOPAvalonization page even longer. > > > > http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?FOPAvalonization/AltA > PIProposalJM > > > > While wr

RE: startup refactoring

2003-06-26 Thread Victor Mote
Victor Mote wrote: > J.Pietschmann wrote: > > > Could you outline your API ideas on the Wiki? > > Sure (give me a couple of days). Again, my point is not to push for a > particular API or framework, but only to show that the control > concepts (PDF > encryption was the example given IIRC) can be a

RE: cvs commit: xml-fop checkstyle1.3.0-head

2003-06-26 Thread Victor Mote
Peter B. West wrote: > pbwest 2003/06/25 10:01:01 > > Removed: .checkstyle1.3.0-head > Log: > Name changed to checkstyle3.1.1-head Thanks for all of your efforts here. Is this file reliable, or is it a work in progress? Victor Mote ---

RE: Alternative API proposal (was: startup refactoring)

2003-06-26 Thread Victor Mote
Jeremias Maerki wrote: > I have done so now. I've added a new (sub)page to the Wiki to avoid > making the FOPAvalonization page even longer. > > http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?FOPAvalonization/AltA PIProposalJM > > While writing down my thought about the API I have come to the > real

Re: (Jeremias, Keiron) Re: [VOTE] Move StructureHandler and LayoutHandler classes

2003-06-26 Thread Glen Mazza
Good--that's where it will go then (barring an onslaught of -1's between now and this weekend) BTW, I believe my original rationale for placing in the Area package was by looking at the imports in LayoutHandler--it seemed to be very heavily dependent on the particular implementation of the Area Tr

Re: Spec drives me crazy: column-count and blocks with mixed spans

2003-06-26 Thread Chris Bowditch
From: "Arnd Beißner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Since the default behaviour really seems to be unspecified, and since there's no property to specify it, I believe overall less harm is done if you don't balance at the end of the flow. This is because then you can always trick the renderer into balancing

RE: [RTF] Jfor integration

2003-06-26 Thread Victor Mote
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > obviously these are needed - sorry about that, I have added them now. > I'm just fixing the licenses now, but the files are there already. No apology needed. Thanks for adding them. I have just committed the changes needed to compile, and have also removed the jfor li

cvs commit: xml-fop/lib jfor-0.7.1.jar jfor.LICENSE.txt

2003-06-26 Thread vmote
vmote 2003/06/26 00:03:52 Modified:.build.xml Removed: lib jfor-0.7.1.jar jfor.LICENSE.txt Log: Remove jfor libs and references. Revision ChangesPath 1.84 +0 -1 xml-fop/build.xml Index: build.xml ==